IrishNinja
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aww that sucks - can you not just change out the drive? ive done this with the DC
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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
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aww that sucks - can you not just change out the drive? ive done this with the DC
MurderOfPoes
Neo Member
The Model 2 have an extra control board for the CD (where the Model 1 modchip would usually go), so I don't think they are compatible.
Moor-Angol
Banned
yes, that's what I'm planning to do, even if here in Japan I don't see anyone selling just the drive so I suppose I have to buy a junk Saturn.
I just wonder if the white Model-2 is enough, cause if I have to look for a "This is Cool" or Skeleton unit, I give up
yes, as I said, I noticed some components were different (and also on the right side of the console, it's interesting to see how the hw part improved during revisions)
The series has its fans but really they are mediocre games.
ResidentDante
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I just checked it out on Youtube, and yeah, think I'll pass!
Shadow Hog
Member
BUG!'s okay. I liked it for the first two worlds or so. After that, though, the difficulty spike is just a bit much for me. Feels like you gotta do too much between checkpoints, and the levels start to drag.
Still kinda wanna try BUG TOO! for some reason, though.
Still kinda wanna try BUG TOO! for some reason, though.
Piston Hyundai
Member
Don't bother. The "BUUUUG JOOOOSE" line is ruined in the sequel.
Shadow Hog
Member
I have the voices turned off in either case, so I'm more wondering if they made the game slightly easier (and therefore more playable).
StevieWhite
Member
My recollection is "kinda." By the time I played Orta, it had been a few years. You aren't alone... it is an engaging but confusing narrative.
Orta is great, you need it!!!
ResidentDante
Member
Orta includes PD1 one too! I play it from a 360 to a CRT with a RGB scart cable. Looks real sharp and nice!
ResidentDante
Member
I'm not sure if it's the PC version or a Saturn version emulated. It looks sharp and nice mind you! Barebones main menu with a start button and difficulty setting.
MikeHattsu
Member
It's the PC version ported to run on the Xbox.
Shadow Hog
Member
Almost certainly that; Saturn emulation was pretty much garbo up until SSF really started getting good in the latter half of the 2000s, and even then you needed a beefy PC to run it well (hell, you still do).
theSlacker
Member
Orta is one of the few original Xbox games that I still have. Don't even know if we have an original Xbox OT thread as it seems to be one of the few system threads that I don't have a subscription to.
theSlacker
Member
Batman Forever (arcade) which was based off the ST-V chipset was ported to a bunch of stuff, including the Playstation. Close enough.
sixteen-bit
Member
Isn't Sokyugurentai the same?
Ah, good call -- didn't even think of that one!
What do you mean by that? Isn't DoA on the Saturn just a port of the Model 2 arcade game? DoA on the PS1 is quite different, it even got its arcade re-release under the name of DoA++. Also, Sokyugurentai is originally an STV arcade board as well.
Iirc, Silhouette Mirage and Grandia were both Saturn games, later ported to the PlayStation.
Ha, ok sorry. I thought you meant original Saturn games (no arcade titles then) ported to other systems that were contemporary with the SS.
Been playing lots of Tetris on my AVS lately so I've been neglecting the Saturn a bit. I decided to throw on Soukyu Gurentai for the first time in awhile and managed to finally beat it for the first time after owning it for a year, lol. I think Tetris is helping my shmup skills
Found this on Instagram:
Oh I see. Well I'd count Silhouette Mirage and Grandia, as well as the ST-V games mentioned before.
Oh I see. Well I'd count Silhouette Mirage and Grandia, as well as the ST-V games mentioned before.
IrishNinja
Member
$70 primate rage, $80 for a golf game (?)...goddamn, was saturn retail really like that? no wonder PSX ate its lunch
finally sat down & beat D! after REmake, this was another great halloween choice. i only found 2 of the 4 bugs though, might have to go back in for the rest sometime.
thinking i might try Enemy Zero next, then if i'm still in that WARP mood, D2 on dreamcast!
finally sat down & beat D! after REmake, this was another great halloween choice. i only found 2 of the 4 bugs though, might have to go back in for the rest sometime.
thinking i might try Enemy Zero next, then if i'm still in that WARP mood, D2 on dreamcast!
That flier brings back a flood of memories. Console prices were insane during the 32-bit era in Canada.
I really wanted a Saturn at the time (initially for the Model-2 ports, later on for the CPS2 stuff) but the price made it pretty much a non-starter. I worked part-time at a video store in high school, so I could take the rental systems home with me after close if there were any still in stock, so that was cool.
I was on the N64 hype train at the time, and elected to get one at launch instead, in part because it was only $299 Canadian at the time, IIRC. I was still bummed I didn't get a Saturn instead, though. Buyer's remorse had set in. I eventually bought a couple rental units from the store I worked at, and a ton of the games for dirt cheap because consumers had all but lost interest. (This was well before Nights had even been released -- consumers had made their choice, and it wasn't the Sega Saturn lol. The store sold off all Saturn everything.)
I pretty much hate the N64 outside of a handful of games, but I still think the Saturn is such a fun, intriguing piece of hardware.
Ah, Canadian game prices in the 90's. I definitely remember paying over $100 for some SNES and N64 games at the time. Pretty sure I saw Ninja Gaiden Trilogy on SNES for over $100 USD as well when on vacation. Sadly, I didn't own a Saturn back then but I did have a Genesis and Dreamcast. You'd think Dreamcast launching at $199 ($300 less than the Saturn!) would have ensured a decent level of success for Sega. Alas...
Surely we all received clunkers like this at one time or another for holidays?
Surely we all received clunkers like this at one time or another for holidays?
This era in gaming I was firmly on the PS1 bandwagon, on the console side at least. Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Final Fantasy, Tekken. Otherwise I was a big PC gamer at the time.
No one I knew had the Saturn. Hell, no one even had the N64. Finland was strictly Sony land. It was marketed as a cool, hip thing, as in consoles weren't kid stuff anymore like Nintendo and Sega and PC gaming was for nerds, so you better pick the PS1 if you wanna be cool. It was brilliant, and they sold the PS1 to literally every other household, almost as much as the C64 and the NES back in their time.
But even if I had the Saturn, what europe got was mostly crappy early 3D ports (which PS1 did better). Plus the highly advertized arcade conversions. Only in recent years I have delved into the import / 2D / unknown scene and boy, if we got THOSE games, Saturn would've rocked the 90's.
MurderOfPoes
Neo Member
Beware, the PAL version of Panzer Dragoon Orta is said to be backwards compatible but it crashes every single time after level 3.
Read somewhere that the only way to get around it is to play enough hours to unlock the level select and skip to level 4.
That or play the NTSC version (mind you, the game is region locked).
ResidentDante
Member
I don't know about "success" but I do feel Xbox was the worst platform for it to be exclusive to. Same goes for Jet Set Radio Future.
Sega fucked up in general by throwing exclusives around 5 different platforms at the time. Fragmenting their base.
Each team got to decide which platform they wanted to work on, after Sega went third-party. (Can't find source right now.)
Not sure it was the wisest decision to let the development teams make the business decisions, but it's not like Sega's leadership was making steller choices at the time, so ¯\_(ツ
_/¯sixteen-bit
Member
I feel like JSRF and PDO woulda been compromised on their visions if they had been made multiplat. They did right by specifically targeting the most powerful home console hardware at the time.
Its that great Sega contradiction that's hard for me to square as fan of the company's games. A smarter company would have held a tighter leash on its developers and probably been more successful. But that could also mean many of the great niche games I love that they put out may never have been greenlit in the first place with more current market trend following titles being put out instead.
In either timeline I as a Sega fan lose out in some way unless its also a timeline where stuff like Panzer Dragoon, JSR etc have mainstream appeal somehow.
In either timeline I as a Sega fan lose out in some way unless its also a timeline where stuff like Panzer Dragoon, JSR etc have mainstream appeal somehow.
Absolutely.
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