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September 2010 NPD "Results" [Up3: Dead Rising 2, Metroid, Kingdom Hearts Numbers]
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Opus Angelorum
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elrechazao said:
Well firm and secure were the descriptors I would use.
And UK:Corto said:
http://content.yudu.com/A1phb7/MCV15102010/resources/6.htmMCV said:
But that is off-topic. =)
Source: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2010-10-15-new-game-releases-disappoint-in-the-usGameIndustry.biz said:
It's dead. :lol
Guevara said:
There are a lot of sweet PS3 games coming out next year, but IMO none of them have the system selling potential of GT5.
That said, does it really matter at this point? New consoles are probably going to start dropping pretty soon here. At this point it's time to give the PS3 its eulogy as the last place system, and talk about how Sony can get back in the lead with the PS4.
Cosmonaut X
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Nirolak said:
So:
...doesn't apply to Wedbush, then? Or are they breaching NPD policy here?
Nirolak said:
Pretty much. The plastic-peripheral-music-game market needed some care, attention and restraint if it was going to prosper. It got Activision.
Segata Sanshiro
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It's actually interesting, looking at Guitar Hero from the beginning to now, how closely it followed the arc of the Rock Star. Totally meta.Nirolak said:
Nirolak said:
Holy shit. Guitar Hero went from selling 1.4 million units in 6 days to 86,000? Activision killed rhythm games by flooding the market with low quality games. Too bad Rock Band 3 has to suffer and won't do much better. :/
Only company I see doing next gen next year is Microsoft, and even that feels like kind of a longshot. Aside from still having a few big releases left for the Wii, Nintendo's dev studios are pretty tied up with the 3DS. And of course, Sony's releasing everything in the next 12-13 months.
I think the pattern from here on out might be: handhelds introduce next gen and consoles follow a year later until the console market becomes something else.
I think the pattern from here on out might be: handhelds introduce next gen and consoles follow a year later until the console market becomes something else.
Cosmonaut X
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Minsc said:
Depends. I'd say it's seen as the more "legitimate" series, purely because of how Activision milked and devalued GH and how Rock Band has been handled with a bit more care and imagination, so it could still be fairly strong. However, there's a good chance that the endless GH releases and Rock Band 2 itself have done a fair bit to poison the well for any future releases in that area, so...
gofreak said:
Indeed. It's ridiculous to have a public position that says that platform holders and publishers can release their figures if they choose, but then to turn a blind eye to prominent subscribers releasing figures as they see fit.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
From that GamesIndustry article:
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
Cheech said:
Lol, seriously? If anything PS3 has been catching up for sometime now. The race to second will be neck and neck by the end of this gen.
I think it's a combination of Sony having gotten their act together and the completely dry well of third party Wii software.DMeisterJ said:
Sony had a major advantage in that even in their worst times, they always had strong third party support. This meant that all they really needed to do to get their consoles sales up was to get the price under control. Nintendo on the other hand could never win over third parties, even with truly astounding hardware sales, and it came back to haunt them badly.
I know that EA was missing Need For Speed and distributing The Beatles Rockband this year, and Activision lost Guitar Hero and Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2, but what did Take-Two and THQ lose to cause such drops?Stumpokapow said:
Iwata was pretty much honest, he has already acknowledged that it could be difficult for Wii from now on and a lot depends on how the holyday season will go.
IMO they will announce a new Wii with full BC with the current model during next year.
The PS3 number is definetly strong considering that this year they have neither a redesign nor a price drop to compete but it's no wonder that they want to hide that their growth pattern is over and if they want to grow considerably again they need a price cut to a mass market price, finally.
IMO they will announce a new Wii with full BC with the current model during next year.
The PS3 number is definetly strong considering that this year they have neither a redesign nor a price drop to compete but it's no wonder that they want to hide that their growth pattern is over and if they want to grow considerably again they need a price cut to a mass market price, finally.
AniHawk said:
Microsoft:
1. Just released the slim
2. Sinking tons of money into launching Kinect
3. Is making absurd amounts of money off software
Sony:
1. Bullish on Move
2. Bullish on 3DTV
3. Software sales aren't as strong as they are on 360, but still doing very well in mainland Europe
If anything, I think they have the LEAST to gain off launching an entirely new platform. Nintendo will probably go first, if Wii sales don't reverse out of freefall. This holiday season's sales will tell us when Nintendo's next system is launching.
My guess is Nintendo will take the wraps off Wii 2 at E3, for either a Christmas or Spring launch. MS/Sony will announce in spring of 2012, with holiday 2012 release. I'm probably optimistic, seeing as I am ready to build a gaming PC because I am tired of my old ass console hardware. :lol
Segata Sanshiro
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Proof positive that even a flourishing flower will die if you only water it once every few months. They've got no one to blame but themselves.DMeisterJ said:
gregor7777
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Microsoft putting the stomp down. Truly impressive.
BladeoftheImmortal
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Kagari said:
I'd say, maybe not in October but definitely November and December it's a lock for either 360 or PS3 to outsell Wii(or both to outsell it).
COD Drops, and GT5 drops sometime this year, and I doubt Wii Party, Kirby, or DKCR(is that 2011 now) will be able to change that.
AniHawk said:
Xbox operates under very strict cost controls, if that's what you mean. They don't have free access to the piggy bank. To that extent MS is letting it fend for itself, but that's no bad thing from a profitability point of view. (It's also partially what's let some analysts to call for Xbox to be spun off into its own company.)
As for 2011, I truly think they're looking for the casual audience to see them through their late phase handsomely. I think they believe kinect can do that, and it may well do so. It may look empty for us, but MS will be hoping for some long-legs out of their Kinect stuff. They'll also have good momentum coming out of this year, out of slim and so on...that won't evaporate immediately.
Captain Tuttle
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Not really, they're the ones paying NPD for the data. They're getting their numbers.plagiarize said:
BladeoftheImmortal said:
Lol, seriously. Console hardware is something of a shell game, the only thing that matters to these companies at this point in the generation is software sales.
Sony is getting absolutely destroyed in that arena. Microsoft published games far outsell Sony's for the most part, and third party games also typically sell better on the 360 (which translates to more DLC, and therefore a bigger cut to MS).
I mean, I hate to throw ice cold water on the fanboy talk, but there is no realistic way that Sony will make more money off the PS3 than Microsoft will make off the 360 this generation.
Both of them got curb stomped by Nintendo, of course, but that's neither here nor there. :lol
The idealist in me would like to see Sony and Microsoft team up on a single console. They backfill each other's weaknesses perfectly. Unfortunately, there is way too much money to be made as the sole platform holder for this ever to occur.
AniHawk said:
By "fend for themselves" do you mean, "stay profitable"? I think that's been the case for a while now. the E&D department hasn't been allowed to bleed money for years now.
I don't think they're willing to lose much more money in that area to beat Sony. The Search division looks to be the place where they're willing to lose cash to stave off Google (at least from what I saw in their last earnings report)
Cheech said:
Well, yeah, I agree. I just think that if push came to shove, Microsoft could probably get something out the door faster than Sony or Nintendo, just in case Kinect doesn't take off. Kinda like how Nintendo was planning a successor to the GBA when the stopgap became more successful than any other handheld they made.
If Nintendo has a Wii successor "next year," I think it would have to be Spring 2012 in Japan at the earliest. It would mean they could fit it into their financial statement, and they probably would have gotten two or three internal studios barely enough time to pump out some games for it for launch and launch window. And then they might opt to do what Sony did with the PS2 and release it elsewhere later.
LCfiner said:
Basically, yeah. It was a conversation I was checking in and out on in last month's NPD thread or something. Pretty interesting, and it sure explained a lot of Microsoft's recent behavior.