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[Ithil]

IT'S FRIDAY!!!!!!

 

[slightconfuse]

..

 

[Man God]

The WWE Network might give you PPVs for only 9.99 a month but TNA and Spike give you (most) PPVs for free every month.

#TNAtion
#TNANOSURRENDER2014

 

[strobogo]

I don't think anyone else is getting the CM Punk treatment with names. He had to fight to keep it and now WWE sees it as bite in the ass since he left and he owns it. Out of all three guys I'd love for Prince Devitt to be able to keep his name but I just don't see it happening.


I don't know when the "Heavy" scripting came into play on RAW/Smackdown but watching NXT tonight felt like watching 1997-2006? shows. The stories are the main focus and are actually interesting like you said the whole talk of the friendship of Zayn and Neville was a key factor and made you feel a way when he pulled that reff out like what happened to the respect level he had with Zayn? You're gonna pull a move like that after everything? As a viewer you lose respect for him and gain more for Zayn and it just makes great progression for both characters moving forward. Same for Bailey and Flair. Former friends who had a hell of a match and even in the end she respected Bailey to show she still has that respect for her as a former friend but enough to maintain her heel persona. This show was great and whoever the head writer is does a great job but honestly I feel like HHH just lets them take most control of there stories and have much input on to how things go and turn out.

The first time in weeks I was excited for WWE. Raw has just been abysmal and haven't watched in two weeks. Just catching the best parts you guys telling me about.

Takeover 2 was more about story than great matches for sure. Which is fine. Sometimes a good story is better than a great match. The most recent example being Bork/Cena at Summerslam. I think Bayley/Charlotte and the 4 way were better stories than good matches, even though they were both good matches. NXT in general does a better job at both than the main shows and has done so since the full NXT reboot at Full Sail started. They usually get more stories progressed in an hour than Raw does in three, which is ridiculous. But then you go back and watch the one hour Raws/Nitros, and they also got way more shit progressed than 2 and 3 hour shows. One hour is the sweet spot for a TV wrestling show.

Long enough to get stuff across, but short enough to where you can't slack off and meander, so you're forced to keep it focused. Bumping Raw/Nitro to 2 hours was a curse in a lot of ways. Instead of getting 3-4 2 minute promos during the show, you'd get a 20 minute promo. And that shit never went away.

 

[Zach]

1983
Starrcade '83: A Flair for the Gold - B

1984
Starrcade '84: The Million Dollar Challenge - C

1985
WrestleMania - B-
The Wrestling Classic - D+
Starrcade '85: The Gathering - C

1986
WrestleMania 2 - C+
The Big Event - C-
Starrcade '86: The Sky Walkers - C+

1987
WrestleMania III - B-
Starrcade '87: Chi-Town Heat - C+
Survivor Series '87 - C-

1988
Bunkhouse Stampede '88 - C-
Royal Rumble '88 - C-
Clash of the Champions I - B+
WrestleMania IV - C
Clash of the Champions II - C+
The Great American Bash '88 - B
SummerSlam '88 - D
Clash of the Champions III - C-
Survivor Series '88 - D
Clash of the Champions IV - C+
Starrcade '88: True Gritt - B

1989
Royal Rumble '89 - F
Clash of the Champions V - C-
Clash of the Champions VI - B
WrestleMania V - B-
WrestleWar '89 - C
Clash of the Champions VII - C+
The Great American Bash '89 - B+
SummerSlam '89 - C
Clash of the Champions VIII - B-
Halloween Havoc '89 - C+
Clash of the Champions IX - B
Survivor Series '89 - D+
Starrcade '89: Future Shock - C+

1990
Royal Rumble '90 - D+
Clash of the Champions X - B-
WrestleWar '90 - C
WrestleMania VI - B
Capital Combat: The Return of Robocop - B-
Clash of the Champions XI - C
The Great American Bash '90 - B-
SummerSlam '90 - D
Clash of the Champions XII - D
Halloween Havoc '90 - C-
Clash of the Champions XIII - D
Survivor Series '90 - D+
Starrcade '90: Collision Course - B-

1991
Royal Rumble '91 - D+
Clash of the Champions XIV - B-
WrestleWar '91 - C+
WrestleMania VII - D+
SuperBrawl - C-
Clash of the Champions XV - B-
The Great American Bash '91 - F
SummerSlam '91 - C-
Clash of the Champions XVI - C
Halloween Havoc '91 - B-
Clash of the Champions XVII - B-
Survivor Series '91 - D
This Tuesday in Texas - C
Starrcade '91: Battlebowl - C-

1992
Royal Rumble '92 - B-
Clash of the Champions XVIII - B
SuperBrawl II - B+
WrestleMania VIII - B-
WrestleWar '92 - B-
Beach Blast '92 - B+
Clash of the Champions XIX - B
The Great American Bash '92 - C+
SummerSlam '92 - C-
Clash of the Champions XX - B+
Halloween Havoc '92 - C-
Clash of the Champions XXI - C+
Survivor Series '92 - C-
Starrcade '92 - B-

1993
Clash of the Champions XXII - B
Royal Rumble '93 - C
SuperBrawl III - B-
WrestleMania IX - C-
Slamboree '93 - D+
King of the Ring '93 - C+
Clash of the Champions XXIII - C+
Beach Blast '93 - B-
Clash of the Champions XXIV - C+
SummerSlam '93 - D
Fall Brawl '93 - C-
Halloween Havoc '93 - C+
Clash of the Champions XXV - C-
BattleBowl - D
Survivor Series '93 - F
Starrcade '93 - C

1994
Royal Rumble '94 - C-
Clash of the Champions XXVI - B-
SuperBrawl IV - B-
WrestleMania X - B-
Spring Stampede '94 - B
Slamboree '94 - C
King of the Ring '94 - D
Clash of the Champions XXVII - C
Bash at the Beach '94 - C-
Clash of the Champions XXVIII - C+
SummerSlam '94 - C-
Fall Brawl '94 - C-
Halloween Havoc '94 - D+
Clash of the Champions XXIX - D
Survivor Series '94 - F
Starrcade '94 - D

1995
Royal Rumble '95 - C-
Clash of the Champions XXX - D+
SuperBrawl V - D+
Uncensored '95 - F
WrestleMania XI - D+
In Your House I - C-

Gotta love the shorter runtime.

 

[slightconfuse]

One hour impacts were good at story stuff as well . They really packed a lot into an hour . Show usually ended on a cliffhanger

 

[Downhome]

WTF...

 

[RobotNinjaHornets]

There was a ska band called The Arrogant Sons Of Bitches that a girl I had dated long term was really into. They were playing their last show in Manhattan at The Knitting Factory (its since moved to Brooklyn) and I remember them fielding questions on their myspace about the show.

One of the statements was like "for those asking if we'll come to your town and play, NO [in all caps], there are plenty of local ska acts you can check out there" and that just blew my mind that this band would be on record saying that they were completely interchangeable with any other local act in a town.

Because of that ska has always come off to me as the least ambitious and laziest of all music, I do like the goldfinger guy's voice though.

Its also a band geek's genre and no one likes band geeks.

Show was the beginning of the end of our relationship, bee tee dubs.

Hey, don't talk shit about ASoB. Jeff Rosenstock is a fucking dood.

And getting people to support local bands is a bad thing now? Lawl.

Also Zayn's theme isn't ska I dunno why everyone is saying it is

 

[Exis]

You all are killing me with the anti ska talk, while there is ska that is stereotypical such as Mustard Plug there is stuff like Sonic Boom Six that is ska that evolved past the 90's.

 

[strobogo]

I'm thinking about giving myself the Larry David today. Maybe rock it for a day or two and then shave the rest off. I'm getting quite distressed at how much hair is coming out per day. My hair has no majesty left. In a year, it's going to look bad. All the majesty is on the sides and back and I want to get to that point instead of the half way point.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

There was a ska band called The Arrogant Sons Of Bitches that a girl I had dated long term was really into. They were playing their last show in Manhattan at The Knitting Factory (its since moved to Brooklyn) and I remember them fielding questions on their myspace about the show.

One of the statements was like "for those asking if we'll come to your town and play, NO [in all caps], there are plenty of local ska acts you can check out there" and that just blew my mind that this band would be on record saying that they were completely interchangeable with any other local act in a town.

Because of that ska has always come off to me as the least ambitious and laziest of all music, I do like the goldfinger guy's voice though.

Its also a band geek's genre and no one likes band geeks.

Show was the beginning of the end of our relationship, bee tee dubs.

Dawg, I think the whole ska/punk culture bit went over your head. It's not saying ska is interchangeable. The band was basically saying "watch Ska NXT for the future" by supporting local bands and shows.

Related, Zayn's ska intro rules. You can't mistake him, and it fits.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

You all are killing me with the anti ska talk, while there is ska that is stereotypical such as Mustard Plug there is stuff like Sonic Boom Six that is ska that evolved past the 90's.

Did they stop using horns? Because that's my second biggest issue with ska.

 

[bean breath]

I wish I could read Dragonzord's thoughts on Hideo Itami-san. He's WrassleGaf's foremost authority on Japanese culture.

 

[Perspicacity]

Breeze is a dude I've been watching since 08 or so as he came from my local Indy and I think that the Fatal Fourway match was the first time that I've been convinced that the dude had it. I hope that was a star making moment for him as he could definitely hang with everyone else in that match.

 

[jmdajr]

Ska????/

lolololol!

Listen to real music. Like Cock Rock!

 

[Hasney]

Ska????/

lolololol!

Listen to real music. Like Cock Rock!

Or a specially curated custom soundtrack from John Cena.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

I wish I could read Dragonzord's thoughts on Hideo Itami-san. He's WrassleGaf's foremost authority on Japanese culture.

any idea when his sentence is up?

 

[Sid]

Hideo Itami is a stupid name,he's KENTA.

Breeze is a dude I've been watching since 08 or so as he came from my local Indy and I think that the Fatal Fourway match was the first time that I've been convinced that the dude had it. I hope that was a star making moment for him as he could definitely hang with everyone else in that match.

I thought he was at his best against Zayn at Takeover 1.

 

[Perspicacity]

I doubt that Dragonzord is coming back. He was saddled with a new gimmick then immediately dropped from all shows. Not a good sign.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Hideo Itami is a stupid name,he's KENTA.

It's a regular ass Japanese name. What's wrong with it?

 

[Browny]

Dirtshit news:

- For a few weeks now, Vince McMahon has reportedly been drilling WWE creative on how they need to prove to John Cena's fans that he's still "in the fight" and not a lost cause due to the beating he took from Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam.

When Cena returned to RAW and dominated The Wyatt Family a few weeks back, we noted that Vince was responsible for Cena being booked so strong. Several people backstage reportedly voiced their opinion that Cena should not have been booked so dominant but Vince wouldn't change his mind.

Yeah, it's dirtshit news. But - oh why am I not surprised.

 

[Sid]

It's a regular ass Japanese name. What's wrong with it?

KENTA suits him more or maybe its because it's a name we're more familiar with.

 

[kiguel182]

Just want to say that NXT Takeover was awesome. I doubt Night Of Champions will be this good.

With one or two exceptions I was into the matches, the wrestlers and the stories. Great wrestling product right here. Doesn't talk down to the audience and it really shows.

The ending to that four way match was so good. Great twist and I'm interested to see where this is going.

Worst part of it was Kenta's new name. Kenta is such a better name than Hideo Itami.

 

[Ithil]

KENTA suits him more or maybe its because it's a name we're more familiar with.

I was more familiar with El Generico and Bryan Danielson once, too. You'll get used to it and never look back.

 

[bean breath]

any idea when his sentence is up?

Not soon enough.

 

[sonikokaruto]

Does he slam is head into the camera in this gif?

when i see this, i hear barret go BOOOOHM

 

[Sid]

Just want to say that NXT Takeover was awesome. I doubt Night Of Champions will be this good.

With one or two exceptions I was into the matches, the wrestlers and the stories. Great wrestling product right here. Doesn't talk down to the audience and it really shows.

The ending to that four way match was so good. Great twist and I'm interested to see where this is going.

Worst part of it was Kenta's new name. Kenta is such a better name than Hideo Itami.

While the name change wasn't great his debut was awesome,he took out the most dominant team in NXT on his first night.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

when i see this, i hear barret go BA-BA-BABABABA-BOOOOHM

Fixed

 

[newdayrocks]

Still glowing over Takeover. That 3 month gap really makes it special. Someone in our IRC chat room mentioned last night that it makes the main roster bust their ass so they're not shown up, so it's good shit all around.

Agreed. That NXT match on this week's Raw was my favorite match of the night, so I'm sure there's increasing pressure on the main guys these days.

 

[¡HarlequinPanic!]

Dawg, I think the whole ska/punk culture bit went over your head. It's not saying ska is interchangeable. The band was basically saying "watch Ska NXT for the future" by supporting local bands and shows.

Related, Zayn's ska intro rules. You can't mistake him, and it fits.

Hmm, yeah, I get what you're saying.

TY band geeks.

 

[jmdajr]

Vince doesn't realize people will watch Night of Champions to see Cena get whooped all over again.

In his mind folks won't tune in for weak Cena.

Wrestling fans will tune in. Even now we will tune in, odd booking and all.

 

[Exis]

Did they stop using horns? Because that's my second biggest issue with ska.

Yeah, more or less, nothing I listen to really has horns

 

[bean breath]

For someone that doesn't watch NXT, who are some of the top black stars on the show?

 

[sonikokaruto]

Fixed

thanks, i tought that part was added by my other 3 personalities trying to talk but politely trying to let the others talk too

 

[jmdajr]

For someone that doesn't watch NXT, who are some of the top black stars on the show?

hmmmmm

 

[newdayrocks]

For someone that doesn't watch NXT, who are some of the top black stars on the show?

Sasha Banks?

 

[Sephzilla]

Why is Vince so insistent on making Cena look ungodly strong? I don't remember Austin or Rock ever getting this level of booking. Was Vince this bad with Hogan?

Spoiler

I doubt it since he let Hogan leave the company

 

[sonikokaruto]

For someone that doesn't watch NXT, who are some of the top black stars on the show?

BigE came out from that. Otunga came out from that.


those are the relevant ones

 

[Deleted member 47027]

For someone that doesn't watch NXT, who are some of the top black stars on the show?

Ty Dillinger

 

[kiguel182]

While the name change wasn't great his debut was awesome,he took out the most dominant team in NXT on his first night.

Yup, loved that.

His english still needs to improve but that's why he's on NXT.

 

[jmdajr]

 

[lovely ladies]

Sasha Banks?

soon willie mack too

 

[Sokantish]

For someone that doesn't watch NXT, who are some of the top black stars on the show?

Two of the most successful ones have left NXT and according to the dirtsheets are going to debut soon. Future HOF Big E and Xavier Woods are going straight to the top.

 

[sonikokaruto]

Two of the most successful ones have left NXT and according to the dirtsheets are going to debut soon. Future HOF Big E and Xavier Woods are going straight to the top.

you can't forget the gay guy and the dude that simulates an animal sound while hourglassing

 

[BronsonLee]

you can't forget the gay guy and the dude that simulates an animal sound while hourglassing

Jesus christ this broke me

 

[Sibersk Esto]

you can't forget the gay guy and the dude that simulates an animal sound while hourglassing

lol damn

 

[jred2k]

Vince doesn't realize people will watch Night of Champions to see Cena get whopped all over again.

In his mind people won't tune in for weak Cena.

People will tune in. Even now we will tune in, odd booking and all.

This is what I want to see.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

This is what I want to see.

took me a sec

 

[Aiii]

Third day in a row that I'm grinding in Diablo 3 and playing Sami Zayn's theme on repeat, thanks WrassleGAF!

 

[zychi]

is there anywhere for me to watch raw from this week? went out last night, and everyone was telling me i missed a good raw this week? or were they all lying?