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September Wrasslin' |OT| Almost Brings a tear to my eye

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Pizoxuat

Junior Member
kiguel182 said:
I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm giving my take on it.

If a black guy with a suit walked in there would he be escorted out or treated differently? If a white guy in "hood clothes" walked in there would he be allowed to stay?

The dress code might have it's roots on racism ( I have no idea if it has but I take your word for it) but there are more reasons to looked down on it than "it's black peoples clothes".

Of course, I'm not american so I don't know how that reality is over there. What I can say it's the clothes themselves is why someone might refuse to serve people and not the color of the skin of who wears it.
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A group of just white guys violating that dress code will almost always be allowed in. That's one of the things that gets places with these dress codes busted, it's always selectively enforced.
 
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kiguel182

Member
Zach said:
I've said it many times over the past year or so: they're the reason I got back into wrestling. I stumbled upon one of their reviews on YouTube and was hooked.
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Yup. They are great. The episodes are really big but time flies. They have a really nice format. And they doing more recent stuff is cool too.

Nerdkiller said:
I'm actually watching it right now. On to the Cena/Lesnar match.

Also, I happen to be Irish, like they are.
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I'm at Rusev vs Henry right now.
 
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kiguel182

Member
Pizoxuat said:
A group of just white guys violating that dress code will almost always be allowed in. That's one of the things that gets places with these dress codes busted, it's always selectively enforced.
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Okay, I didn't know that. If that's the case with stuff like this then it's just undercover racism.

I guess I was giving the benefit of the doubt because I see the prejudice against that type of dressing as something independent of race. But of course that's my personal view and if that connection is like you said then it's simply racism.
 
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Vylash

Member
Alucard said:
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I said "Damn." Reminds me of poor Spike Dudley taking those powerbombs from Brock. Just a massacre.
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kiguel182

Member
Nerdkiller said:
Their showcase of the first WWECW episode was something else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYyOE8hNgI0

Can't wait for them to cover December to Dismember.

Also, the match that they closed out on for the NoC episode just reminds me how scar inducing Big Daddy V's costume was.
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The whole ECW retrospective has been amazing. And man, the new ECW was really rough.

Their comments on Orton are spot on too. The cool thing is that they are on point on most things and make it entertaining.
 
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Nerdkiller

Membeur
kiguel182 said:
The whole ECW retrospective has been amazing. And man, the new ECW was really rough.

Their comments on Orton are spot on too. The cool thing is that they are on point on most things and make it entertaining.
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Yup. And I love them for that. I just don't get Orton in this day and age. He's got to be the most bland wrestler in the top card, possibly in all of WWE. And from the looks of things, I fear that Roman Reigns is going to be the next Orton, in that he's works well, but is overall just not interesting to pay attention to. He even has an "OUT OF NOWHERE!" finisher to match.
 
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kiguel182

Member
Nerdkiller said:
Yup. And I love them for that. I just don't get Orton in this day and age. He's got to be the most bland wrestler in the top card, possibly in all of WWE. And from the looks of things, I fear that Roman Reigns is going to be the next Orton, in that he's works well, but is overall just not interesting to pay attention to. He even has an "OUT OF NOWHERE!" finisher to match.
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It's impossible to care about Orton right now. Sure, he does a great dropkick but so what? He is just boring. Cole saying every match how he is perfect and exciting doesn't help. The amount of shilling they do for Orton is something else.

Thing is Reigns could have a better character than Orton at least. Even if I can't see myself get invested in him as a face.

Also, you were right, that Viscera gear on the last match of OSW was something else.
 
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

Member
kiguel182 said:
It's impossible to care about Orton right now. Sure, he does a great dropkick but so what? He is just boring. Cole saying every match how he is perfect and exciting doesn't help. The amount of shilling they do for Orton is something else.

Thing is Reigns could have a better character than Orton at least. Even if I can't see myself get invested in him as a face.

Also, you were right, that Viscera gear on the last match of OSW was something else.
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Orton really is as good as Cole says he is. He's just not in any interesting stories right now. He's extremely underrated for having great 20 minute matches all the time.
 
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kiguel182

Member
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Orton really is as good as Cole says he is. He's just not in any interesting stories right now. He's extremely underrated for having great 20 minute matches all the time.
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In terms of being athletic and all? Yes, he is really good.

But most of his matches are rest holds and they just drag the show a long. Seeing Orton do a rest hold while Cole screams how he is so amazing and the perfect wrestler just doesn't fit.

Orton, more than Cena, is the guy that I don't think helps the show. He drags things and isn't exciting.
 
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Deleted member 47027

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Orton is great. If you think he's boring you're missing the point.
 
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UrbanDandy

Member
Alucard said:
I think most would say they should have fewer belts, not more. The current smark position is a desire to merge the US and IC belts.
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That's lame. Well, I always thought that replacing the IC belt with the European or Cruiser-weight title would be a good idea because the IC title is basically the World Championship in terms of geography. Also, make up some titles like West/East/South/North division titles for more people.
 
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Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Randy Orton is an awful wrestler. He's like Mike Awesome where he can do moves but doesn't know thing 1 about making a much interesting or compelling. Combine that with his poor work ethic, bad promos, and overhyped OUTTANOWHERE spot and you make a case for one of the most uninteresting wrestlers in all of the WWE.
 
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kiguel182

Member
Data West said:
Randy Orton is an awful wrestler. He's like Mike Awesome where he can do moves but doesn't know thing 1 about making a much interesting or compelling. Combine that with his poor work ethic, bad promos, and overhyped OUTTANOWHERE spot and you make a case for one of the most uninteresting wrestlers in all of the WWE.
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Clearly that's not his fault. It's booking's.

He is amazing, they just make him be the dullest and blandest he can be.
 
BFIB

BFIB

Member
Data West said:
Randy Orton is an awful wrestler. He's like Mike Awesome where he can do moves but doesn't know thing 1 about making a much interesting or compelling. Combine that with his poor work ethic, bad promos, and overhyped OUTTANOWHERE spot and you make a case for one of the most uninteresting wrestlers in all of the WWE.
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UrbanDandy

Member
Alucard said:
Ehh...both main roster and NXT, or just main roster?...

1. Seth Rollins
2. Cesaro
3. Chris Jericho
4. Sheamus
5. Luke Harper/Dolph Ziggler

I maaaay be off on these, but yeah.
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I agree with Alucard on this one. Orton now is nothing more than Levesque's (and to some degree Kane and Rollins') lapdog.
 
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

Member
Data West said:
Randy Orton is an awful wrestler. He's like Mike Awesome where he can do moves but doesn't know thing 1 about making a much interesting or compelling. Combine that with his poor work ethic, bad promos, and overhyped OUTTANOWHERE spot and you make a case for one of the most uninteresting wrestlers in all of the WWE.
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It's interesting because I see Orton as the exact opposite: he's one of the few guys they have on top who's just absolutely perfect with his timing, pacing, and match progression. He's on a level few can touch even when they try their best.

I'm not saying he's a 5-star match guy, because he is pretty deliberately slow and his style isn't very technical, but he's a solid 3-4 star match every PPV if the company's behind him with a story.
 
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Serpentine

Banned
Data West said:
Randy Orton is an awful wrestler. He's like Mike Awesome where he can do moves but doesn't know thing 1 about making a much interesting or compelling. Combine that with his poor work ethic, bad promos, and overhyped OUTTANOWHERE spot and you make a case for one of the most uninteresting wrestlers in all of the WWE.
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at least Awesome did powerbombs
 
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