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[Vylash]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04dKOMox8F0

hahahahahahaha

 

[JesseEwiak]

Here's the official list for the WO Hall of Fame

It's time for the 2014 Hall of Fame elections.

This ballot is being sent out to major wrestling stars, past and present, major management figures in the industry, writers and historians.

If you are getting this, you are being asked your opinion on who should be inducted into this year's Hall of Fame class. The criteria for the Hall of Fame is a combination of drawing power, being a great in-ring performer or excelling in ones field in pro wrestling, as well as having historical significance in a positive manner. A candidate should either have something to offer in all three categories, or be someone so outstanding in one or two of those categories that they deserve inclusion.

The names listed below are those under consideration for this year. To be eligible, a performer must have reached their 35th birthday and completed ten years since their debut as a full-time performer, or be someone who has been a full-time pro wrestler for at least 15 years.

Longevity should be a prime consideration rather than a hot two or three year run, unless someone is so significant as a trend-setter or a historical figure in the business, or valuable to the industry, that they need to be included. However, just longevity without being either a long-term main eventer, a top draw and/or a top caliber in-ring performer should be seen as relatively meaningless.

The election is broken down into a number of categories. You should check each category for wrestlers that you feel you are familiar enough with based on geography that you've either traveled or are familiar with, and based on the time you have followed pro wrestling. You do not have to vote for a wrestler in every category you've checked.

The ballot is also broken down to wrestlers and those who are not pro wrestlers but have been valuable parts of the industry.

The maximum number of wrestlers that you can vote for all the categories is ten. You can pick as few as zero if you don't believe anyone on this list deserves inclusion.

For wrestling executives, managers, announcers and other outside the ring performers, you can vote for them and they are not counted against the ten. You can vote for as many as five of them.

All responses are confidential. There is nothing to worry about politically about any involvement in this process. Your selections will not be revealed unless you choose to do so yourself.

Anyone who receives mention on 60% of the ballots from the geographical region and time frame (broken down as Continental United States & Canada; Mexico; Japan; Europe; and Hawaii/Australia/New Zealand) will be added to the Hall of Fame in the class of 2014.

If you are unfamiliar with any of the candidates due to geography of having never seen them, that is fine. Ballots are sent to many people from all over the world and from different wrestling cultures so that everyone has as fair a shot at possible.

The breakdown for modern and historical performers is 30 years ago, or 1984. So if the last year the person was a headliner, or was a key figure in the industry, was prior to 1984, they would be in the historical class.

All performers who receive mention on 10% to 59.9% of the ballots from their geographical region or era will remain on the ballot for consideration next year. All those who receive less than 10% of the vote will be dropped from next year's ballot. They can return in two years based on if there is significant feedback from voters who say they will vote for them. This is mostly for wrestlers who are still active who may improve their career legacy, but can be for retired wrestlers if voters believe they should be put on or returned to the ballot.

In addition, in following the lead of the baseball Hall of Fame, which is the model here, starting this year we have a 15-year-rule. The following candidates have been on the ballot since 2000. In baseball, this would be their last year of eligibility. Here, if they don't get at least 50% of the votes in this year's election they will be removed from the ballot. If they are modern candidates, they can be brought back in the historical performers era in two years if it is more than 30 years since their career as a Hall Fame level performer is up:

The following candidates will be dropped from next year's ballot unless they are elected in or garner 50% of the vote:

Gene & Ole Anderson
Cien Caras
Carlos Colon
Gran Hamada
Volk Han
Owen Hart
Gorilla Monsoon
Fabulous Moolah
Pedro Morales
Dick Murdoch
Rock & Roll Express
Seiji Sakaguchi
Jimmy Snuka
Wilbur Snyder
Jesse Ventura

Please return this ballot by October 5th. You can e-mail the ballot back to dave@wrestlingobserver.com or fax it to 408-244-3402 or mail (please do so by September 28th) to Wrestling Observer, P.O. Box 1228, Campbell, CA 95009-1228.

Please check by every category you are familiar with

I FOLLOWED THE HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA CANDIDATES
Gene & Ole Anderson
The Assassins (Joe Hamilton & Tom Renesto)
Red Bastien
June Byers
Pepper Gomez
Dick Hutton
Pedro Morales
Ciclon Negro
Kinji Shibuya
Wilbur Snyder
John Tolos
Enrique Torres
Von Brauners & Saul Weingeroff
Tim "Mr. Wrestling" Woods
Johnny "Mr. Wrestling II" Walker

I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES
Junkyard Dog
Edge
Owen Hart
Curt Hennig
Ivan Koloff
Brock Lesnar
Fabulous Moolah
Dick Murdoch
Ken Patera
C.M. Punk
Rock & Roll Express (Ricky Morton & Robert Gibson)
Sgt. Slaughter
Jimmy Snuka
Sting
Ultimate Warrior

I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATES
Jun Akiyama
George Gordienko
Gran Hamada
Volk Han
Masahiko Kimura
Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan
Yuji Nagata
Seiji Sakaguchi
Mike & Ben Sharpe
Minoru Suzuki
Kiyoshi Tamura
Akira Taue

I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES
Brazo de Oro & Brazo de Plata & El Brazo
Cien Caras
Hector Garza
Ultimo Guerrero
Karloff Lagarde
Blue Panther
L.A. Park
Huracan Ramirez
El Signo & El Texano & Negro Navarro
Vampiro
Villano III
Dr. Wagner Jr.

I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE CANDIDATES
Jim Breaks
Big Daddy
Giant Haystacks
Horst Hoffman
Billy Joyce
Kendo Nagasaki
Jackie Pallo
Rollerball Mark Rocco
Johnny Saint
Otto Wanz

I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS/CARIBBEAN/AFRICA CANDIDATES
Spyros Arion
Johnny Barend
Brute Bernard & Skull Murphy
Carlos Colon
King Kong Czaja
John DaSilva
Domenic DeNucci
Killer Karl Kox
Mark Lewin
Mario Milano
Jan Wilkens

NON-WRESTLERS
Bill Apter
Dave Brown
Jim Crockett Jr.
Jim Crockett Sr.
Gary Hart
Jimmy Hart
Howard Finkel
Jerry Jarrett
Larry Matysik
Gorilla Monsoon
Gene Okerluind
Don Owen
George Scott
Jesse Ventura
Stanley Weston

 

[Man God]

I would want no part of a Hall of Fame without Owen Hart and Ventura in it.

 

[Serpentine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04dKOMox8F0

hahahahahahaha

now that's a theme for the face of a division

 

[somedevil]

Why would you assume I would know that? Where is an episode list for the series?

When I watched it advertised the Mick Foley episode is next.

 

[Macho Madness]

Punk won't make it in.

 

[Raw64life]

Pedro Morales and Sting are the 2 most surprising that they're not already in to me.

When I watched it advertised the Mick Foley episode is next.

Is that in both versions of the episode they put up? And what exactly is different about the 2 versions they put up of every episode anyway?

It's not a timeline show, brother. Every episode has its own focus.

Just by watching the first 4 episodes, there wasn't a whole lot that overlapped up to this point. I just looked it up and saw that there's 20 episodes total. Makes much more sense to me now.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Why would you assume I would know that? Where is an episode list for the series?

It's not a timeline show, brother. Every episode has its own focus.

 

[Macho Madness]

Pedro Morales and Sting are the 2 most surprising that they're not already in to me.

Sting won't probably ever make it in. Was not a top draw except for one PPV and was not considered a HOF level worker. Those are the two most important aspects to making it in.

With Pedro, probably more of an issue with his colleagues dying off.

 

[strobogo]

Really surprised that Rollerball Rocco and just about everyone from the Japan list aren't in.

 

[Carnby]

The Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame is a 45 minute drive from where I live. Yet I have never gone once.

I imagine I will take my son there when he is old enough to like pro wrestling. As of now, he gets bored watching wrestling and/or laughs at them because their stomachs are showing. hehe.

 

[strobogo]

If Macho/Hogan split happened today, would Macho get in trouble for victim blaming?

 

[FallingEdge]

If Macho/Hogan split happened today, would Macho get in trouble for victim blaming?

lolololololol

 

[Mengetsu]

The second Jericho podcast interview with HHH is awesome. I only have more respect for the guy. The future is in good hands.

 

[Carnby]

If Macho/Hogan split happened today, would Macho get in trouble for victim blaming?

Only in OT.

 

[JesseEwiak]

Sting won't probably ever make it in. Was not a top draw except for one PPV and was not considered a HOF level worker. Those are the two most important aspects to making it in.

With Pedro, probably more of an issue with his colleagues dying off.

Yup. There's a great podcast (http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=112658&cmd=tc) laying out exactly how bad Sting a draw was, especially in the early 90's.

As for Pedro, it's more along the lines that he was always likely the #11 or #12 choice for a lot of people.

The second Jericho podcast interview with HHH is awesome. I only have more respect for the guy. The future is in good hands.

Spoiler : He's working you.

 

[serenewarfare]

Spoiler : He's working you.

If NXT is a result of his "working", then he can work me as long as he damn well pleases.

 

[StylesClash]

Uh I saw some pics of Buff's porn video and let's just say he definitely does not have the stuff.

I had to login just to post that if I had a drink in my mouth it would be all over the place after reading that. That was fucking great.

 

[SoulPlaya]

I just listened to the Jericho/HHH interview. You can tell Jericho hates HHH's guts.

 

[strobogo]

Yup. There's a great podcast (http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=112658&cmd=tc) laying out exactly how bad Sting a draw was, especially in the early 90's.

As for Pedro, it's more along the lines that he was always likely the #11 or #12 choice for a lot of people.



Spoiler : He's working you.

Now, how can you tell what's a work and what's a shoot? I can never tell these days.

 

[krae_man]

 

[Carnby]

I finished episode 4 of Monday Night Wars, and honestly, I don't think it was exaggerating DX's importance. I say that as a person who was a fan of DX before it officially became DX. There was something special there from the start, and I watched it blow up before my eyes. And yes, I know the tank skit is over played, but it was gold when it aired. HHH interviewed people outside the WCW arena asking, "did you even pay for your ticket?" I had never seen WWF so blatant in it's attack.

 

[Thorakai]

Just calling out Cena for what he is.

 

[Wendel Clark]

They shouldve called him Shawn "THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE" Michaels when he came back with his born again gimmick

 

[Wrestlemania]

Dang.

This is good for TNA.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

The Divas match we all want to see!

 

[bean breath]

I just listened to the Jericho/HHH interview. You can tell Jericho hates HHH's guts.

Are you confusing HHH with Joan Rivers?

 

[UrbanDandy]

I just listened to the Jericho/HHH interview. You can tell Jericho hates HHH's guts.

Good man, that Jericho.

 

[Professor Beef]

I just listened to the Jericho/HHH interview. You can tell Jericho hates HHH's guts.

How can you tell? I haven't listened to the interview, but I'm always curious when people say stuff like that.

 

[BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!]

Just calling out Cena for what he is.

What a cis scum thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[SoulPlaya]

How can you tell? I haven't listened to the interview, but I'm always curious when people say stuff like that.

The tone in his voice, and he's being way too agreeable. It's just so fake. Every other comment is "Wow, yeah, you're right." or, "I hadn't even thought of that!"

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I wish we got Reginald Dupont Helmsley.

 

[Carnby]

It kills me to look at the monthly pick up thread. People post pictures of the three pairs of basketball sneakers they bought last month. Here I struggle to find the money to purchase a new belt. If only every thing was only 9.99.

 

[bean breath]

It kills me to look at the monthly pick up thread. People post pictures of the three pairs of basketball sneakers they bought last month. Here I struggle to find the money to purchase a new belt. :-/

The best things in life are free.

 

[Professor Beef]

The best things in life are free.

Not everyone who is as broke as you is willing to follow your fashion sense.

 

[Mengetsu]

http://wrestlingonearth.com/the-merch-table-paige-fans-special/

The Merch Table: What The Fuck, Paige Fans

Just a short one this week. I was on the WWE Auctions site today, which is a testament to just how terrible wrestling fans are with money. You’ve got people spending $360 on a used chair, over $700 on a director’s slate, and $310 on pieces of a broken table (the last of which would be seen as ACTUAL GARBAGE in pretty much any other industry aside from wrestling).

However, nothing compares to the money being splashed around by Paige fans, who I’m now convinced are all absolute fucking psychopaths. You’ll see what I mean. LET’S GET STARTED.

Paige signed t-shirt

Alright, cool. It’s a Paige t-shirt – not one she wore or anything, just one she signed. Typically, these go for between $100 and $200 on the WWE Auctions site. How much do you think Paige’s went for?

YEAH. YEAH. $2,010. WE’RE NOT FUCKING AROUND HERE. Let’s have a look at the heroes who were bidding on this incredible collectible:

Nhronis is setting the pace here as the number one connoisseur of Paige collectibles. Do you think we’ll see him dominate the rest of the listings… or will a challenger emerge?

Paige painting:

Okay, Rob Schamberger painting. Pretty neat – it’s not that huge or anything and, again, these things tend to go for between $100 and $200. Think we’ll see Paige’s go for something similar?

NOPE, IT WENT FOR TWO THOUSAND, NINE HUNDRED AND NINETY DOLLARS. WHAT. Who could have been competing for this incredible piece of art?

HMM, INTERESTING. We see Nhronis show up again, but he’s clearly not as dedicated as the hot, new contender Nasser. Surely these two can’t have the funds to afford more high-end Paige auction items though… can they?

Paige signed Divas replica title belt:

A Divas title belt. These already go for a few hundred bucks, and generally, the signature will add another couple hundred on WWE Auctions. For Paige though… I mean, I think it’s been well-established that all logic goes out the window with her stuff, so I couldn't even begin to guess.

Sure, $4,500. That makes sense. That makes so much sense. I can’t even comprehend money anymore. Can you guess the individuals who were driving up the price of this prestigious item?

YEAH, FUCKING SHOCKER. Another decisive victory for Nasser, and honestly, Nhronis is really going to have to get back in the game if he wants to be in the running to be considered number one creepy Paige fan. There’s only one round left but… man, it’s a big one.

Worn Paige t-shirt:

God damn it. God fucking damn it. Here’s the deal – if you have a serious interest in owning a worn item of clothing by ANYONE, I’m going to be somewhat suspicious about your motivations. When it’s a lady wrestler? Forget it, I’m going to petition that you be placed on every list and register I can find.

Clearly, this was going to be big news for the Paige fans. Other items of worn clothing have gone for around $400/500. For Paige’s worn t-shirt though? It gets INSANE.

FUCK THIS. FUCK WRESTLING FANS. Let’s see who won this bidding war:

Congratulations, Nasser, you are confirmed as the ultimate creepy Paige fan. I hope you enjoyed spending $13,500 on a torn-up t-shirt, a small painting and a replica title belt and that you’re never allowed within 500 yards of Paige!

Didn't know if I should laugh at the fact of this much money being spent on stuff like this or that the one guy crushed everyone's chances on the bids :lol

 

[strobogo]

That guy saw the good work Aiii was doing in WrassleGAF and decided he'd do better.

 

[Alucard]

Christ. Dammit, Paige fans! Mr. Nasser probably could have paid that much money to MEET Paige.

And yeah, that t-shirt is just creepy shit.

 

[bean breath]

Why would you spend six grand on a Paige shirt when you can look up at the stars in the sky for free?

 

[bitesnintendog]

It kills me to look at the monthly pick up thread. People post pictures of the three pairs of basketball sneakers they bought last month. Here I struggle to find the money to purchase a new belt. If only every thing was only 9.99.

I bought a belt at a pharmacy for 6 dollars last week. Yes, I'm a dirty poor.

 

[Alucard]

Why would you spend six grand on a Paige shirt when you can look up at the stars in the sky for free?

Baby, I've been, I've been losin' sleep.

 

[ItAintEasyBeinCheesy]

Why would you spend six grand on a Paige shirt when you can look up at the stars in the sky for free?

Her sweaty skin touched that shirt...... sweaty sweaty skin.

 

[Data West]

The tone in his voice, and he's being way too agreeable. It's just so fake. Every other comment is "Wow, yeah, you're right." or, "I hadn't even thought of that!"

That's Jericho in every interview though. He always acts like that.

 

[Alucard]

I really doubt Jericho hates H. He put him over huge in his second book, and I don't think it was kissing ass or tongue in cheek.

 

[SoulPlaya]

That's Jericho in every interview though. He always acts like that.

He hates everyone.

 

[StylesClash]

Get that money Paige

 

[Hasney]

Just catching up on old posts and I am goddamn glad this place still recognises Iggy as Iggy pop.

 

[Alucard]

Just watched the Bobby Lashley vs. Josh Burns fight. Lashley was on him the whole time and didn't get much push back. I'm not a regular MMA watcher, but I thought Lashley looked good and he won with a rear naked choke ala Samoa Joe. Can't wait for them to use that in TNA storyline, bros.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Just catching up on old posts and I am goddamn glad this place still recognises Iggy as Iggy pop.

What you guys think about Akeem as a wrestler. Did they make him as good as he was going to be or could of had done better?

 

[strobogo]

So I've brainstormed a movie. Title is as of yet undecided.

It's about a former CIA agent turned cop in Pasadena, California. He left the CIA after his wife and children were killed when a case went bad. He has an attitude problem. His name is Cincinnati Red, but his favorite team is the Cubs. He's been through so many partners that if one more requests a transfer, he's off the force for good.

His newest partner has a daughter who is very ill and needs a transplant. The only way to get this transplant is to go to the black market. And it turns out that the dealer will get the organ needed if the partner turns on Red. The Chief hates Red because Red is actually his son in law and he blames Red for the death of his daughter and grand children. As it turns out, DA CHIEF is the one behind the organ dealer and it was his plan all along. So Red must get his partner to stay on his side, keep the daughter from dying, all while fighting the scum and villainy of Pasadena.


CASTING

Red: Wesley Snipes or Val Kilmer. Will settle for Cuba Gooding Jr. or Nic Cage
Da Chief: Robert Englund
Red's wife: Heather Langenkamp
Red's partner: Ethnic actor to be determined. Possibly female as well.
Organ dealer: Armenian actor to be determined.
Evil Businessman: Jerry Seinfeld
Cameos from: DDP, Steve Borden, Joey Diaz, Brody Stevens

Soundtrack:

• California Soul: Marvin Gaye/Tammi Terrell (opening credits song)
• I Don't Care Anymore: Phil Collins (Faded into once the credits fades to night time)
• Wild Mountain Honey: Steve Miller Band
• Ball of Confusion: The Temptations
• Hope She'll Be Happier: Bill Withers
• Blue Red and Grey: The Who
• Prostitute: GNR (likely credits song)
• I'd Rather Be With You: Bootsy Collins
• Tragedy: The Bee Gees