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September Wrasslin' |OT| because Triple H is good for business
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Spider from Mars
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It's TNA THURSDAY. Let's relive some classic TNA moments!
Sharmell vs. Jenna Morasca
Booker T's wife had a PPV match with a reality T.V. "star" and it went even worse then it sounds. Jenna wasn't signed by TNA to wrestle, she was signed because Trixie loves Survivor and it was just another doll she could add to her collection. Lo and behold, she was booked in a match with another non wrestler and released shortly after. This failed experiment of signing non-wrestlers to improve ratings will not stop here however.
Sharmell vs. Jenna Morasca
Booker T's wife had a PPV match with a reality T.V. "star" and it went even worse then it sounds. Jenna wasn't signed by TNA to wrestle, she was signed because Trixie loves Survivor and it was just another doll she could add to her collection. Lo and behold, she was booked in a match with another non wrestler and released shortly after. This failed experiment of signing non-wrestlers to improve ratings will not stop here however.
Spider from Mars
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Screw that and screw reality television stars fighting. Let's make it NWA Saturday Night On Thursday instead.
1, April, 1989. Part 1 http://dai.ly/x143plr part 2 http://dai.ly/x143t34
Young J.R., Sting vs Rotunda that's no Bo, and more. First though pre-franchise Shane Dougless vs a guy you can never figure out who is under the mask.
BronsonLee
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I see you're upgrading your hate level from 'hates all ten people in Atlus-GAF' to 'hates all of Europe'
MAKIN MOVES MAKIN MOVES MAKIN MILLION DOLLAR MOVES
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I'm a big-city American guy in a quaint European hamlet world.
I didn't mean it how it sounds. I mean people saying "WELL I THINK A GTA IN MY TOWN WOULD BE RIGHT ACE GUVNA" usually don't have anything going for em.
British Monsoon
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A new GTA: London would be awesome and you know it.
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"Niko! Would you like to watch a friendly with our club? We can get 'on the piss' and 'piss out of' cunts!"
FYI I liked GTA London a lot, but I think the series has moved on to this weird...thing. That might not fit anywhere else without taking a huge financial risk.
YOU KNOW HOW AMERICAN AUDIENCES WONT GET BEHIND A JAPANESE CHAMPION
ITS BECAUSE THEYRE AMERICAN
WARGH
Also I think the spectacle of insanity that the US offers is good for business, people like to look at see and wonder if it's REALLY like that.
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I agree that it can get a bit much when people whine about GTA not being in their town (whining being complaining without actually doing anything), but I do understand the desire to see GTA actually explore the world more. The whole idea and defence of "the humour won't work if set anywhere else" or "cities set in locations foreign to them won't sell as well" from the developers is rather flimsy though. People liked Rio remember.
I rather they just say straight out "we don't want to make it anywhere other than pastiche of U.S. cities and cultures" and leave it at that. As much as I would love to see GTA return to London, try out Paris, make fun of Moscow, make great use of Monaco, try a vertical expanding with UAE with all those buildings rather than this quest for horizontal expansion, and so forth, I understand and respect artistic choice to stick with something specific.
Speaking of which, I think I might finally get around to playing Bully. Can I rename the character Ryback?
I rather they just say straight out "we don't want to make it anywhere other than pastiche of U.S. cities and cultures" and leave it at that. As much as I would love to see GTA return to London, try out Paris, make fun of Moscow, make great use of Monaco, try a vertical expanding with UAE with all those buildings rather than this quest for horizontal expansion, and so forth, I understand and respect artistic choice to stick with something specific.
Speaking of which, I think I might finally get around to playing Bully. Can I rename the character Ryback?
Even if I didn't live here, I think I'd still like to see it. All that lame political satire Rockstar loves getting into, you'd think they would take it right to the heart. Plus, they could rip off a bunch of shit from The Wire and Homicide. Would be pretty choice.
*Still, I'd love to drive to my neighborhood and see if any of the secret hangout spots are in.*
Anywhere new would be awesome, really. I never want to see GTA Japan though. No fucking thanks.
British Monsoon
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Shit, you guys liked Lock Stock & Snatch, right? I think America could get behind a GTA game set in London, given the Rockstar slickness and presentation. Maybe what we really need is a new Getaway game.
Also, GTA London set today would probably sound a lot like this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrvHfBO0mKo
BronsonLee
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Lol, I know bud. It's just amusing. And I want to go back to training and make it to NXT for the sole purpose of suggesting my name be 'Ace Guvna'
Sadly no, I think it's locked to Jimmy. Doesn't matter though. Just call him Jimmy The Ryback~!
Also whatever, GTA is shit compared to Sleeping Dogs anyway
Do you think Nintendo will change their ways now that Yamauchi is dead?
ViewtifulJC
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Lazy Man's Wallpaper
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This is what happens after years and years of WWE pushing the version of DX that was around for about five months as the most legendary stable in the history of wrestling
ViewtifulJC
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I think Jericho won the greatest IC title one, over the fuckin' Honky Tonk Man, Randy Savage, and the Ult. Warrior. Good going, WWE universe.
That reminds me, has Jericho ever actually won a match with that "COME ON BABY" arrogant cover? I always tried to win with that in the old N64 games, but I can't remember that actually working IRL.
That reminds me, has Jericho ever actually won a match with that "COME ON BABY" arrogant cover? I always tried to win with that in the old N64 games, but I can't remember that actually working IRL.
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Critically we liked em, but I don't think they did gangbusters at the box office. It's good but tough to identify - as a brief excursion into that culture it's fun, but 30 hours of it? I dunno. Getaway flopped real bad over here, and 2 did even worse.
I think the bottom line is that it's simply too risky. I understand the desire (and I would play it) no matter where it's set, really, but it'd drag the brand down and be a money sink.
Chav Theft Lorry
I just remember people saying a Max Payne set in Rio would flop. That no one would touch a title set in the Holy Lands or the Republic of Venice. A crime game set in Hong Kong would be the last game anyone would ever want from a particular developer. That Batista green with envy over John Cena's acting career would never lead to anything green.
The idea that people won't play a huge franchise set in a well known location not in the States if given as much care as the previous recent big hit popular game from them is just silly to me. Games like The Getaway suffered because it was a new IP that wasn't offering anything new to most gamers during a rush of open world titles on PS2 and frankly it was an average game, it could have been a true crime story set in Los Angeles and done just as poorly. Some of those GTA side stories if released without the GTA branding wouldn't have ever sold well.
The fear of a main character people can't identify or become confused can be true though alas, even putting some people off with Niko in GTA IV. However a game can get over that, or just as easily have one most U.S. gamers can identify with like say Jack Swagger All American American P.I. as he lives as an ex-pat in London or something along those lines.
Only during house shows and while fighting midgets/dwarfs/little people/mini stars/Jeff Jarret.
The idea that people won't play a huge franchise set in a well known location not in the States if given as much care as the previous recent big hit popular game from them is just silly to me. Games like The Getaway suffered because it was a new IP that wasn't offering anything new to most gamers during a rush of open world titles on PS2 and frankly it was an average game, it could have been a true crime story set in Los Angeles and done just as poorly. Some of those GTA side stories if released without the GTA branding wouldn't have ever sold well.
The fear of a main character people can't identify or become confused can be true though alas, even putting some people off with Niko in GTA IV. However a game can get over that, or just as easily have one most U.S. gamers can identify with like say Jack Swagger All American American P.I. as he lives as an ex-pat in London or something along those lines.
Only during house shows and while fighting midgets/dwarfs/little people/mini stars/Jeff Jarret.
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I was talking about it in the America thread but I think when you bring up GTA, you have a common thread with most of its players (those that are American mostly) that it feels believable to them, a believable extension of their real lives. Assassin's Creed in Venice is a huge departure but same with the abilities you have, which aren't in GTA. Every American for the most part (unless they actually ARE educated with firearms) thinks they can fire a gun no problem and that's as far as GTA gets with empowering you with the exception of flying helicopters. None of us believe we can climb shit in Tunisia and dive into hay bales. I think that link is a pretty significant one and one of the reasons why GTA does so well.
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If we had an official WrassleGAF logo I'd gladly replace it. In the 90s style of SummerSlam, or a Royal Rumble text style, I'd be all over advertising our special brand of sports entertainment.
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BronsonLee
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It did :'(
Or being a pirate! Assassin's Creed is basically a Deus Ex Machina to go do crazy shit in old times. Gold idea.
SLEEPY DAWGS
Hey, if you saw Wrong Side of Town, you'd have thought the same too!
Hey, I wasn't questioning Vinny Mac being in your avatar, that'd be silly. What's more silly is a NeoGAF logo in your neogaf avatar!
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underperformed in America due to an unfamiliar setting and a protagonist that was hard for people to identify with.
but goddamn I did love Wei Shen. He was so awesome. I loved it.
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We really do need a WrassleGAF logo, an official one.
If you could create the WrassleGAF logo, what PPV logo would it be patterned after?
Make mine Wrestlemania.
If you could create the WrassleGAF logo, what PPV logo would it be patterned after?
Make mine Wrestlemania.
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Meltzer posts by proxy, this is what we're missing thanks to Beefers! who I have forgiven 100%
Who has has the weirder career path:
Sin Cara
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Drew McIntyre
Sin Cara went from mega star in Mexico to being brought in as the successor to Rey Mysterio. However, he failed to learn English, had no one to work his style with him, couldn't work the American style, became super injury prone, and botched EVERYTHING, including his debut entrance. After getting injured weeks into his run, he has an evil version that replaces him for a while. The Nega-Cara is better in every way. He quickly becomes a jobber who only wins on Superstars or Main Event. A brief team with Rey changed his winning fortunes, but as soon as Rey got hurt again, he went back to full on jobber.
Drew came in and was hand picked and endorsed by Vince on camera, which has only happened a handful of times in the last 15 years. All the people Vince endorsed would be Superstars. He goes on a winning streak for months. Then a visa issue comes up and he has to miss a few weeks of TV. He never regains his momentum. Then he marries crazy, crazy gets crazy, crazy gets fired, and Drew is demoted to full jobber. He is then repackaged in a comedy heel group playing rhythm guitar to the king of the jobbers.
Unrelated, but I think I've found the first thing in a GTA game that made me think maybe Rockstar went a little far. I guess I'll put it in spoilers even then it has no story implications whatsoever and isn't spoiling anything about the game:
Sin Cara
or
Drew McIntyre
Sin Cara went from mega star in Mexico to being brought in as the successor to Rey Mysterio. However, he failed to learn English, had no one to work his style with him, couldn't work the American style, became super injury prone, and botched EVERYTHING, including his debut entrance. After getting injured weeks into his run, he has an evil version that replaces him for a while. The Nega-Cara is better in every way. He quickly becomes a jobber who only wins on Superstars or Main Event. A brief team with Rey changed his winning fortunes, but as soon as Rey got hurt again, he went back to full on jobber.
Drew came in and was hand picked and endorsed by Vince on camera, which has only happened a handful of times in the last 15 years. All the people Vince endorsed would be Superstars. He goes on a winning streak for months. Then a visa issue comes up and he has to miss a few weeks of TV. He never regains his momentum. Then he marries crazy, crazy gets crazy, crazy gets fired, and Drew is demoted to full jobber. He is then repackaged in a comedy heel group playing rhythm guitar to the king of the jobbers.
Unrelated, but I think I've found the first thing in a GTA game that made me think maybe Rockstar went a little far. I guess I'll put it in spoilers even then it has no story implications whatsoever and isn't spoiling anything about the game:
Trevor's rampage on US soldiers was pretty...questionable. It's one thing to blow cops and military dudes up when they're chasing you for killing hookers, but this was an entire side mission devoted to shooting a grenade launcher at waves of US soldiers who are screaming that you're an insurgent.
We really do need a WrassleGAF logo, an official one.
If you could create the WrassleGAF logo, what PPV logo would it be patterned after?
Make mine Wrestlemania.
I would do a mix on the Neogaf logo and the WWF scratch logo
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For weirdness, McIntyre. For sad faces at what happened, Sin Cara. Truly a tragic tale, it really is.
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Del Rio debunked that one. Cara ain't SHIT now.
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Super interested in this week's Observer, if anyone posts any excerpts I will thank you profusely.
Nocturnowl
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I so desperately wanted to believe in Sin Cara, I bet on the wrong horse.
BronsonLee
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YOU UNDERPERFORMED IN AMERICA
Though I'm happy we're at least pretty likely to get a sequel. Dat developer
Del Rio is a monster~!
Also, I think Drew can be -easily- salvaged in one promo: 'I was goofing off for a bit, having fun. I'm not fucking around now. You're all dead' *throws Rey through Elimination Chamber*
Tadaaaaa
Spider from Mars
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Slater should have been the next Shawn Michaels ;(
No way. He's perfect as the king of the jobbers. He's one of the few guys in recent years that WWE really booked to his strengths.
Rafa=FedKilla
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I believe both still have bright futures in the E. Drew's mentor said he is having the time of his life though...