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September Wrasslin' |OT| because Triple H is good for business
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You know the Cornetteface that usually gets used for WWE?
I think I'm going to make a Triple H face that's fuckindiewrestling because of this gif.
Lambda Pie
Banned
the bald spot, pudgy guy looks like a 5'2 Scott Norton.
but yeah, that's some of the most stupid spotty shit around.
I dont like AR Fox. In fact, he may be the indie wrestler i hate the most.
In good PWG news, looks like theyre sticking with the company that turned around ten in about 3 weeks for BOLA, so BOLA should be available on DVD by mid-September instead of mid October
Lambda, Michael Elgin loves Scott Norton
In good PWG news, looks like theyre sticking with the company that turned around ten in about 3 weeks for BOLA, so BOLA should be available on DVD by mid-September instead of mid October
Lambda, Michael Elgin loves Scott Norton
Seriously, just push him off of the ropes after the second jump. Because fuck that.
But it's so cute that he holds his hand to let him do his thang, tho.
British Monsoon
Member
A fairly apt description, even if Elgin's not quite that short, although he does throw dudes around with ease like Scott Norton;
tm24 said:
The biggest thing that bugs me about AR Fox is that he seems so lackadaisical with everything he does outside of his highspots. He's Jack Evans for modern indy wrestling and, truth be told, I'd kinda prefer to see Jack.
SousedLouse
Member
WHAT?
Even though I know they're being provocative, I still say this is one of the dumbest posters the WWE's even put out. If stupidity could be quantified, I'd say this poster is as dumb as the SuperBrawl 2000 poster, as far as posters that don't look like porn ads go.
Lambda Pie
Banned
man, Jack Evans... dude was always an extra rotation away from dying in the ring. THE spot monkey.
Dark Ninja
Member
Holy shiet at Bo Dallas on NXT calling Sami Zayn green. The hate has helped Bo's John Cena character. Also that Simpsons moment they aren't saying boooo they are saying BO
I just hope he doesn't do that stuff to impress the WWE because it won't. He just should do more superkicks instead.
People give WWE a lot of crap for teaching the Indy guys WWE style. But at least they get rid of this crap.
why?
British Monsoon
Member
Seriously. There's been more "Oh...well, Jack's dead." moments than I can count. The dude's made of rubber.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVesFzgms5k
Dragonzord said:
That's not the style they're going for though. Like it or not, PWG is always going to be the place with the loud and raucous crowd who want to see wrestlers having these crazy, spot-filled back and forth matches with a ton of near-falls. I really enjoy PWG, but the brake-neck pace of everything is the reason I can't ever watch a whole show in a single sitting.
If you're not watching wrestling for athleticism AND psychology, why don't you just go see acrobats perform? I don't understand it. Like, there's certain things you can excuse as 'oh it's just wrestling' but then there's believability shattering things like that or the superplex spot.
If you are a pro wrestler and you are shattering reality, you are a bad pro wrestler. I don't care how many flips you can do are how ripped you are. I'd rather watch Diesel vs Bret Hart than just about any modern indy kid spotfest.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Without a doubt. I think the current WWE style is far superior to anything in the American indys right now, they've become utterly ridiculous where every match on the card has to consist of constant over the top bullshit. Cool spots are great, but there's no point to them if there's 20 in a match and none of them have any kind of effect. It's pretty sad that now most of the guys that made the Indy scene the best place to watch wrestling have moved to the WWE/TNA nobody's stepped up to take their place, instead the scene's become unwatchable to me.
BronsonLee
Member
OH MAN. What is this I hear about NJPW starting to do English commentary for their iPPVs?
...And that the commentary team is Matt Striker & Mauro Ranallo
BRING THE HEAT
I fucking love Striker's enthusiasm and knowledge. I've never had an issue with Mauro. Striker got a little too referential during the WWE days but I think I blame Vince being a dickhole about the Rumble for that
...And that the commentary team is Matt Striker & Mauro Ranallo
BRING THE HEAT
I fucking love Striker's enthusiasm and knowledge. I've never had an issue with Mauro. Striker got a little too referential during the WWE days but I think I blame Vince being a dickhole about the Rumble for that
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BronsonLee
Member
I fucking love it
Striker is just going to make up the silliest nicknames ever for all the NJPW guys like he did in ECW and I'LL LOVE IT ALL
Mauro is a great fucking anchor and plays the straight commentator so well (See Bas/Trigg/Shamrock)
I wonder if they'll be there or if they'll be watching a feed? That might be an issue
British Monsoon
Member
I hope they give you an option to switch languages, just in case Striker & the other guy are bad, lol.
I know you're not a fan of the New Japan style and, while New Japan is easily my favourite promotion at the moment, I'd actually agree with you. I very much enjoy the current direction New Japan is heading in and they have a style that presents consistently great matches up and down the card. However, when you've got two guys like Punk & Brock or, hell, Cena & Bryan, wrestling the WWE style on PPV, it can produce some amazingly good matches.
Because acrobats don't frame their performances within the context of professional wrestling? It's a spot-fest and, sure, you don't like that style and certainly wouldn't want to watch a whole show with every match wrestled at that pace, but if you can overlook the inherent ridiculousness of doing that many moves, taking that many bumps per match, and just enjoy it for what it is, it's exciting. Fuck it, I'm rambling and doubt I'm making much sense. It's almost as bad as trying to explain why I like watching deathmatches.
I know you're not a fan of the New Japan style and, while New Japan is easily my favourite promotion at the moment, I'd actually agree with you. I very much enjoy the current direction New Japan is heading in and they have a style that presents consistently great matches up and down the card. However, when you've got two guys like Punk & Brock or, hell, Cena & Bryan, wrestling the WWE style on PPV, it can produce some amazingly good matches.
Because acrobats don't frame their performances within the context of professional wrestling? It's a spot-fest and, sure, you don't like that style and certainly wouldn't want to watch a whole show with every match wrestled at that pace, but if you can overlook the inherent ridiculousness of doing that many moves, taking that many bumps per match, and just enjoy it for what it is, it's exciting. Fuck it, I'm rambling and doubt I'm making much sense. It's almost as bad as trying to explain why I like watching deathmatches.
I remember watching the very first Straight Shootin with Raven that was like right after or during his feud with CM Punk. And I remember one of the first things he said about indies and even said 'a bunch of ROH guys' was that they have a lot of athletic guys who don't know shit about psychology, about moving a match.
AND THAT WAS IN 2003 It has only gotten worse. I don't even blame Austin Aries, but I think guys like him and AJ Styles sort of 'inspired' this style of just big explosive move, big explosive move, big explosive move. With guys like Punk gone, there were very few names trying to actually make a match meaningful. Like one of my favorite things in the Punk/Joe shoot is when they talk about how kicking out of finishers constantly is so stupid because if you don't do that, it makes the build up to the finisher so much more important. Like if you watch Punk vs Joe, anytime either one of them looks like they're going to do the Pepsi Plunge or Muscle Buster the crowd goes ape shit even before they can hit the move.
It's like most independent wrestling has just been this athletic showcase and nothing else. I mean, fucking goofy guys like Chuck Taylor and Archibald Peck tell a better story in the ring, and those guys spend half the time doing comedy spots.
AND THAT WAS IN 2003 It has only gotten worse. I don't even blame Austin Aries, but I think guys like him and AJ Styles sort of 'inspired' this style of just big explosive move, big explosive move, big explosive move. With guys like Punk gone, there were very few names trying to actually make a match meaningful. Like one of my favorite things in the Punk/Joe shoot is when they talk about how kicking out of finishers constantly is so stupid because if you don't do that, it makes the build up to the finisher so much more important. Like if you watch Punk vs Joe, anytime either one of them looks like they're going to do the Pepsi Plunge or Muscle Buster the crowd goes ape shit even before they can hit the move.
It's like most independent wrestling has just been this athletic showcase and nothing else. I mean, fucking goofy guys like Chuck Taylor and Archibald Peck tell a better story in the ring, and those guys spend half the time doing comedy spots.
BronsonLee
Member
I don't think Ustream has that option. I'm betting you'll have to choose from either the Japanese or English feed
slightconfuse
Banned
Yea sometimes I'm in the mood for crazy shit one after another. But that spot is super dumb
Also ranello did play by any for stampede wrestling and all star wresltig up and Canada and is a huge fan. Does MMA and boxing now
Also ranello did play by any for stampede wrestling and all star wresltig up and Canada and is a huge fan. Does MMA and boxing now
Well Davey Richards I believe had a try out with them. So when he is in NXT they can tell him no if he tries this again.
edit: For the English New Japan commentary I hope they don't try to copy how the Japanese announcers do it.
Jeff Albertson
Member
Did anyone else enjoy Wrestling society x? The production was goofy but it was fun
BronsonLee
Member
We're going to set the wrestling world...ON FIIIIIRRRREEEEE *pew pew pew flame pyro, post production camera shake*
It was so corny. And so awesome. The intro gave us animated Teddy Hart with a head shake too, so there's that. The wrestling was so fun. It was so freaking random
British Monsoon
Member
It was utterly ridiculous and I pretty much loved it. Wish it would have gotten a second season, as there were so many guys on the roster I'd have loved to see on TV more at the time - Jack Evans, Teddy Hart, Human Tornado, Masato Yoshino, Matt Sydal, Matt Classic, etc. Pity Kaos, Vampiro & Judas Mesias stunk up the joint so bad.
I don't dislike the New Japan style at all, I just can't stay interested for a whole show of it. Same with the PWG style.
As for Raven talking about psychology on his shoots, he obviously knows what he's talking about, but he certainly didn't use it in his actual matches. If he applied even half of what he talks about, he'd be a hall of fame level guy.
As for Raven talking about psychology on his shoots, he obviously knows what he's talking about, but he certainly didn't use it in his actual matches. If he applied even half of what he talks about, he'd be a hall of fame level guy.
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Banned
WSX was pretty insane. Just dumb g enought to be good
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Deleted member 47027
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Loved it, it was so bad it was good half of the time, in an endearing way.
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Archabald peck had storyline of the year last year.
Dude is super talented
Dude is super talented
Jeff Albertson
Member
Lmao forgot about the camera shakes after a big move
Remember the guy with a mobster gimmick involving a fish, who was that?
It was my only window to any sort of indie talent so was fun to see some non WWE / TNA guys - and x pac
British Monsoon
Member
My favourite thing about Chuck Taylor is that he protects the Awful Waffle. Very, very rarely does anyone kick out of it and guys kicking out of finishers is so overdone at the moment.
Finished off the PWG show. O'Reilly vs TJP was a lot of fun and the double main events were both nuts.
Super rolling thunder from Swann;
The Young Bucks being awesome, as I know how much WrassleGAF loves them;
Steen's brainbustaaaaaaaah looks way less safe that Generico's;
Finished off the PWG show. O'Reilly vs TJP was a lot of fun and the double main events were both nuts.
Super rolling thunder from Swann;
The Young Bucks being awesome, as I know how much WrassleGAF loves them;
Steen's brainbustaaaaaaaah looks way less safe that Generico's;
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Wonder if regal will give Elgin a Rec. dude is Vince's erection material
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I once saw an indy match where they brought the thumb tacks out 3 minutes into the match, bumped that, then the match kept going for 10 minutes.
Maybe if he wasn't 4 feet tall. Vince like's his muscle men to be IMMENSE, not super short guys built like a waffle.
British Monsoon
Member
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see WWE rehire Brian Cage at some point - he's freakishly strong, fairly tall and definitely has the physique to go with the offence.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I'm confused, what exactly is "New Japan" style. A lot of their guys work variants of strong style, but New Japan doesn't really have a style the way the WWE has a style. You can routinely go from spot fest, to strike fest, to WCW run-in nonsense, to tag matches, to big guys + powerslams, to technical showcase all in one show. I watched 8 of the 9 G1 shows live, and never felt fatigued at any point due to the variety of styles and personalities on display. On the other hand I can barely make it through most WWE TV shows without fast forwarding, and tune out of 80% of the PPV matches. NJPW doesn't even make a much use of "cool down" matches, and their shows still feel better paced.
WWE style is great on a big stage, like a PPV with a hot crowd, or in the culmination of a long feud, but the lead up matches are mostly boring filler. The TV matches are safe and predictable, and there's near no in-match storytelling done anymore. That's why I was never in favor of 3 hour Raws even after eveyone was thinking "oh but the midcard and tag divisions will get so much time." No, it's just more filler. They don't have the writers for it, and the style doesn't work. Just "Crash TV" the hell out of Raw/Smackdown, and give me clinics on PPVs.