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September Wrasslin' |OT| because Triple H is good for business
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Fairy apt. Grabbed by the Ghoulie's seemed the work of the concussed.
Brother Stro said:
That's why you convince Hogan to drop the title clean in 1997 (though he'd try to do a screw job and Bret would stop him) and then run a Bret versus Sting program and Hogan versus Nash or some shit in early 1998.
Can you really imagine Bret in 1999 WWF? I can't see how he would fit at all in that period. Even 1998 is kind of hard to figure out with him still around.
I think they could have made him work. He would have been an ideal Corporation heel leader (while Bret is one of those guys who I think naturally makes a better face, he could be a damn good heel in the right places). I would be more looking forward to 2000 onward Bret in WWF to see him go up against Kurt Angle.
Bret being fired
And Shawn hurting himself.. turned out to be a weird blessing for the wWE
Mr. Enigma
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I still think it would have meant more to Austin to beat Bret Hart for the WWF Title at WM14, which was the original plan. Him beating HBK with fast-count crap from Mike Tyson really kind of deflated what should have been a legendary moment.
IDK, I think he would have had a place. He wouldn't have been the main eventer or anything, that would have been Rock/Austins world no matter what. But he would have been able to find a spot.
Plus in my opinion he was the guy who really made Austin after that WM match.
Mr. Enigma
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When was Raven ever in Evolution?
that's the reflection of perfection Mark jindrack you mark
but when was he in evolution
That's pretty much how I feel. I think Bret would have needed to take a year or two off and come back as a special appearance kind of deal.
Part of the reason why I think Sting and HBK are two of the smartest men in the business (though HBK was forced into it more or less) is that they both frequently took time off to heal and worked a lighter schedule whenever they could.
Fuck it nearly worked for Austin too but he was more seriously injured than HBK and couldn't adapt as readily to the changing scene in the WWE at the time as well.
EDIT: If he had taken the time off (and also assuming Owen had never died, as that really soured him) he could have done great work with Angle and Benoit/Eddie/Jericho. Angle in particular would have been a barn burner with the whole USA/Canada thing.
Stro have you seen that horrible Sting DVD about him?
Mr. Enigma
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Jindrak said in a shoot interview back in 2011 that he was originally supposed to be the 4th member of Evolution, not Batista. He said that he did all the airplane shoots with them and everything.
I think it's funny they have him standing further away from Flair than how far everyone else is away from each other.
That makes him even smarter and it's why he was semi decent in TNA his first few years.
HBK only needed a year, maybe two to rehab that injury and was off the drugs by then too. He saw the landscape though, wondered if he'd want to take some of those nasty ass bumps and rode it out until he could work himself back into the mix.
LiquidSolid
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Sorry, must've fell asleep at this point. No wonder you're a Mr H fan.
Seriously though, that list is pretty pointless. Did Triple H sell those shows out himself or was it the guy he was facing? Rock, Foley, Austin, Undertaker, Cena, etc. I'd bet it was the latter.
It's fine that you're a fan of the guy but to me, the 30-40 minute long winded promos that he loves to do are beyond fucking boring and the worst thing in wrestling. He single-handedly killed any interest I had in wrestling back in the early 2000's after the brand split. I would rather watch a 40 minute Khali match.
#swerve
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Someone must tell Jeff about this immediately.
Sorry, must've fell asleep at this point. No wonder you're a Mr H fan.
Seriously though, that list is pretty pointless. Did Triple H sell those shows out himself or was it the guy he was facing? Rock, Foley, Austin, Undertaker, Cena, etc. I'd bet it was the latter.
It's fine that you're a fan of the guy but to me, the 30-40 minute long winded promos that he loves to do are beyond fucking boring and the worst thing in wrestling. He single-handedly killed any interest I had in wrestling back in the early 2000's after the brand split. I would rather watch a 40 minute Khali match.
Yeah, I find it really weird to figure out who really was a draw, particularly in the Attitude Era when EVERYTHING drew huge crowds. How do you quantify how many people were buying for HHH, how many were buying for Rock, and how many were buying specifically for Rock vs HHH?
I dont watch none of that shit, I just know soccer's kickball.
LiquidSolid
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Exactly and then you've got all the other generational differences, like the number of shows they wrestle a year. I'm pretty sure Bret Hart still has the record for wrestling the most matches ever, mostly thanks to the insane schedule they had back in the late 80's.
Correct. Rugby is the best.
Ninja Scooter
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Why?
Why not.
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Nocturnowl
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HarryDemeanor
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I always wonder how different the Invasion storyline would've been if Triple H wasn't injured.
Just who's side would he have been on?
Just who's side would he have been on?
Mr. Enigma
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SHEETS
Lambda Pie
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honestly, would rather watch Ryback vs Taker out of the 2 options. now way Lesnar and Taker top their HIAC match.
Pristine_Condition
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Orton borrowed that jacket from Teddie Long, playa...holla!
Rock, stay the fuck away from WWE. I want Brock vs Taker dammit.
Also, I finished the Triple H doc last night. I think the only thing new to me was some of the stuff about him and Stephanie.....and it wasn't really that it was new, it was that it was coming from them. I don't think we've seen footage of their wedding and reception before either.
It was a good doc, but I wouldn't put it up there with CM Punk or even Foley. A lot of ass kissing was done....a lot....and kayfabe was out the window.....also Trips talk about the business often.
At least he makes no bones about the fact that he came from bodybuilding and had a cup of coffee in the indies. I believe he had a great work ethic and that he was training every day and listening to what anyone would tell him like everyone says, but I don't buy that EVERYONE knew he would be great the moment they saw him though.....literally everyone.
Also, I finished the Triple H doc last night. I think the only thing new to me was some of the stuff about him and Stephanie.....and it wasn't really that it was new, it was that it was coming from them. I don't think we've seen footage of their wedding and reception before either.
It was a good doc, but I wouldn't put it up there with CM Punk or even Foley. A lot of ass kissing was done....a lot....and kayfabe was out the window.....also Trips talk about the business often.
At least he makes no bones about the fact that he came from bodybuilding and had a cup of coffee in the indies. I believe he had a great work ethic and that he was training every day and listening to what anyone would tell him like everyone says, but I don't buy that EVERYONE knew he would be great the moment they saw him though.....literally everyone.