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September Wrasslin |OT| The one night a year when every table will be on the line
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Jimmy King
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Did Kliq week on the Network include a special in memoriam for the pushes they sabotaged?
Frecklestein
Banned
kevin owens wishes he could be bam2
Snowman Prophet of Doom
Member
I don't think them running arenas all the time is the cause of the sterile feeling. The problem is more that the shows have such a standardized pace to them, there is no sense of life whatsoever. When was the last time that, instead of having one guy cut a promo and then get attacked by whoever he's feuding with, they interrupted something else and showed a camera running up to a brawl in progress? Shit, you could have a whole feud where you only see the tail end of a fight that broke out in the back, with each wrestler giving their own account of what happened, and let the audience piece things together. That's not complicated, but it is potentially interesting and different storytelling. Why does every commercial break have to have a very obvious big spot leading into it? Why do so many matches have to go so long? Why isn't there any effort made to hide the staginess of the backstage segments? Why are there never any segments of the wrestlers out in the world? Why is it that you rarely ever get skits of supposed friends just shooting the shit in the back, like the APA sitting around and tossing back beers in their makeshift "office" back in the day? Why do we have to have those stupid promos where wrestlers stand against a black backdrop and spout unimportant bullshit at the camera so they have something to play during entrances? Why can't the shows ever start with something other than a 20-minute promo from whoever is in the main storyline at that moment? Why can't we ever have an ending other than one wrestler standing over another in the middle of the ring? One of the better Smackdown endings I remember was Damien Sandow coughing and sputtering on the beach after Cody had thrown his briefcase into the ocean, and Sandow foolishly had tried to go get it. Wasn't that snowed-in episode one of their biggest hits in years? Why can't we have more variations in tone and pacing like that? Why are those Michael Cole interviews rarely played on TV when they're usually so good?
I know WWE makes Raws with the idea that most people only watch it every few weeks, but fuck, it's not even like each show has a third of a week's worth of good stuff. I understand we're stuck with 3-hour Raws for at least a few more years, but if they would just change the pacing, it wouldn't be THAT bad. It's basically a kids' show, but more kids would like it if there were more happening on it.
I know WWE makes Raws with the idea that most people only watch it every few weeks, but fuck, it's not even like each show has a third of a week's worth of good stuff. I understand we're stuck with 3-hour Raws for at least a few more years, but if they would just change the pacing, it wouldn't be THAT bad. It's basically a kids' show, but more kids would like it if there were more happening on it.
And he sold out, lest we forget.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
Member
"Let me be serious for a minute" was a genius catchphrase for him, though.
slightconfuse
Banned
Raw should actually open up some damn wrestling. One of the best parts of these 98 rows is that it usaslly does.
We live in a world where Dean Ambrose is considered attractive, friend.
Jimmy King
Member
don't belittle the nWo legacy like that
slightconfuse
Banned
December to Dismember, widely regarded as the worst WWE ppv, is like Wrestlemania X-7 compared to Souled Out.
Hell, the In Your House where the power went out, Beware of Dog, is a better show.
Souled Out's biggest competition is something like Triplemania.
lol true, but it would have been cool if the ppv was DX themed. I'm talking about green and white video capture, women dancing with DX tops, Ms DX of the year contest, and etc.
Yeesh...I don't even remember the PPV, but yikes...that sounds bad.
Friends, Mario Maker is fucking crack. I can't put it down.
Yeah, young teenager me totally understands why Sable was so popular. In hindsight though, Sunny and Trish Stratus were so much better than her in every way.
Yeah, young teenager me totally understands why Sable was so popular. In hindsight though, Sunny and Trish Stratus were so much better than her in every way.
Literally the only woman on the roster I would take Sable over is BB, and that goes from 1995-2001. She's awful.
Sable apparently had a second run that's much better.
Torrie been in her mid 20s for almost two decades.
djplaeskool
Member
So this just happened in midtown Atlanta...
reptilescorpio
Member
Edge was last of a dying breed when it comes down to being a heel. Dude was like the Joker of the WWE at one point. He can be a chickenshit, but will beat your ass viciously. I remember when Vicki had him fight the Undertaker and he went back to his Rated R Superstar roots to size up Taker. Rollins is a good performer, but as some suggested in this thread...the flippy indy shit kills his heel credibility. There is no reasoning to why he does it and it's just plain weird. You are running away from Cena, but you damn near destroy him at Summerslam. There's no rhyme or reason to why he put on a HBK caliber performance except....Rollins.
At least with Edge, it's believable because he's the Rated R Superstar. So you will expect him wearing a motorcycle helmet and spearing Cena threw a table so RVD can win the belt. You can expect him to cash in MITB after Cena went through hell in the Elimination Chamber because he's an asshole.
At least with Edge, it's believable because he's the Rated R Superstar. So you will expect him wearing a motorcycle helmet and spearing Cena threw a table so RVD can win the belt. You can expect him to cash in MITB after Cena went through hell in the Elimination Chamber because he's an asshole.
Yes.
Despite the justified shit he receives...Sabu is still one of my favorite wrestlers of all time.
avengers23
Banned
Rob Van Dam and low level drug dealers around the country.
dream
Member
May I ask for a single example of something that Sabu has done in his entire career that contributed to him being one of your all-time favorites?
Of course.
When I was younger, I got tired of seeing the same boring type of matches involving basic moves and one top rope maneuver. Sabu did something that was unique for its time and that's become a daredevil in his matches. I never seen a man do different variations of dives and flips in matches.
I know you said a single example, but I want to include the fact that he had a mysterious persona that no wrestler can duplicate imo...
Jimmy King
Member
JR letting all his homophobia out during the commentary for Paul E/Cornette at GAB '89
NJPW has a money in the bank ?
G1 Climax tournament lol
Push, or no push, it doesn't help that Russo, and other factors cost a ton of people their jobs. Also fucked up the potential bigger pay days that guys like Lance could have earned with WCW still around.
The Shapesmith
Member
I really enjoyed Lance Storm's WCW run and his renaming of all the titles. Who doesn't love the Saskatchewan Hardcore Invitational title?
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Slow down there cowboy
The proudly patriotic Lance Storm was great. Why wouldn't someone like him, who in the ring and in interviews that treats it all as a serious competition, not want to take pride in what he thinks made him great enough to win those championships in the first place?
That and the joke that just a year prior WCW would have spent thousands making all new belts, but at that point all they could really do was some Canadian stickers.
That and the joke that just a year prior WCW would have spent thousands making all new belts, but at that point all they could really do was some Canadian stickers.
Oh my God, I can't believe Harlem Heat worked their match against Buff & Norton(nWo) as heels because at the last years Sturgis show they were booed because you know... They're black. Apparently the crowd at Sturgis didn't get the memo from last years show because instead giving a "Bizarro World" reaction, they actually cheered the Harlem Heat.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
La Familia was fucking garbage though.
Not sure if posted but new upupdowndown with the start of the Madden tournament of Kofi vs Xavier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1746&v=OchBgMw-Qls
Kofi at the end is amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1746&v=OchBgMw-Qls
Kofi at the end is amazing.
funkystudent
Member
Josh Matthew posted the nude using Kevin Nash's phone just like the time Kevin Nash texted himself to powerbomb Punk with HHH's phone.
What happened?
He actually get hacked or did he get Kurt Angle "hacked" and just got drunk and posted something dumb?
According to Data West, he posted a nude of Madison Rayne whom Josh Matthews is married too.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Still leagues ahead of The Authority...
Jimmy King
Member
I just really want to see Disco Inferno dance his way to the podium as he accepts his Hall of Fame induction.
brisk tacos
Banned
Vince Russo had literally nothing at all to do with the death of WCW. WCW was a lost cause 6 months before he came in, ratings went UP when he showed up, and the decision to take WCW off TV was going to happen regardless of who was booking.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Cut from the same cloth honestly
funkystudent
Member
Missread Masion Ryan and had to double take.
The Slap Nuts t shirt was the equivalent of Austin 3:16 t shirts friend
Point taken....