Not done reading the story yet on your first link, but the first question I ask myself is = Why would the boss of Chikara do this to his fans and talent? What is wrong with you?
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Not done reading the story yet on your first link, but the first question I ask myself is = Why would the boss of Chikara do this to his fans and talent? What is wrong with you?
abstract alien
Member
:^l
Sweeney Tom
Banned
He wanted to do something that hadn't been done in wrestling before. Which to be fair, it hadn't.
Because nobody besides Quack was idiotic enough to kick their fans out of an arena before a show was over under the guise of an angle, hold no more official events for the rest of the year (6 more months at that point), ask them to follow 7 new random indy promotions (clues to the births of the companies coming from a city-wide scavenger hunt) that themselves would one-by-one shut down over the course of 6 more months, and then expect them to care when the company finally comes back and returns to normal.
reptilescorpio
Member
What impact has that had on current Chikara? Did they lose a bunch of talent and struggle to get attendance numbers back up to previous levels?
PHOENIXZERO
Member
That was cool but ridiculous and even more convoluted than the Canadian Destroyer, even more ridiculous that it didn't end the match.
Her not being a part of WWE/NXT must be her choice at this point though. Especially with the company's hard-on for multi-generation stars and Triple H being such a big Flair/Horsemen mark.
EDIT: Oh yeah, there was a rumor back in February when they were prepping Tough Enough that she was offered a spot.
British Monsoon
Member
Comparing Nash to Andre, fucking hell. Too early in the morning for this ridiculous shit.
Also, Quack is insane. I love how he drove everyone who wasn't a CHIKARA superfan away from the product and still tries to spin the whole thing as a success. I went from purchasing most CHIKARA shows to watching nothing from the promotion, great job, Quack!
Also, Quack is insane. I love how he drove everyone who wasn't a CHIKARA superfan away from the product and still tries to spin the whole thing as a success. I went from purchasing most CHIKARA shows to watching nothing from the promotion, great job, Quack!
Wait King of Trios is happening? The fuck? Wow did it fall from grace
Also, lets be honest, there's no kids at King of Trios
EDIT: https://twitter.com/TomBlargh/status/640330747623161856
FUCK QUACK!
Also, lets be honest, there's no kids at King of Trios
EDIT: https://twitter.com/TomBlargh/status/640330747623161856
FUCK QUACK!
Fernando Fernandez
Member
Chikara peaked when CP Munk was revealed to be Necro Butcher in the tag tournament. All downhill from there.
British Monsoon
Member
Yup, I'm not sure which is worse, last year's where Quack tried to do a CHIKARA-only KoT and it sucked, or this year where Quack realised he needed star power (and it still probably sucks).
It's a damn shame to see Chikara deflate like this. I was a huge fan of the company but man oh man did it fall apart. They really did have their head up it's own ass with storyline continuity but nobody else ever tried to use that much detail so I enjoyed it up until they took the year off. Been ages since I watched anything from them but I hear they ditched Smart Mark Video to produce the shows in-house and it hasn't turned out well.
brisk tacos
Banned
No. TNA has always had originals written in 5 minutes or knock offs so bad it would make Jimmy Hart cringe. Half of their entrance music was actually knock offs of the WCW knock offs. I don't recall them ever using licensed music before Doll Parts. They did official theme song of the PPV stuff, so maybe that's where you're getting that from.
BronsonLee
Member
Oh we're talking CHIKARA now?
It's party time.
This has happened before, with one of the minis from Mexico, El Perrithito, I think. He said chinga tu madre, and when the crowd didn't get it, then said fuck your mother. ...He wasn't brought back.
It's been a long standing rule for a while, and it's usually gone over in meetings when there's a lot of new talent, but most people would just chalk it up to being in the heat of the moment and move on. But not Quack!
Also, while Easton is nice, it is rather small, and it seems like they're having issues filling it this time (hence why they changed the setup). I don't remember if KOT last year was on iPPV, but they definitely don't have the capabilities now, since it's all being filmed/produced in house.
I've got stories out the goddamn asshole. Like that time I nearly had a FallingEdge size Polish security guard try to kill me, or when Jon Barber barfed in my car, and rolled out of my car into a ditch a block away from the Easton venue, or that time I filmed a show at The Trocadero with no notice after just finishing the pre-show because Smart Mark's cameras wouldn't work with GoFightLive
Oh man, I can't hate. I don't like the guy's sets, but they are decent production stuff/that's the look they want. The set they had at the relaunch looked good.
They lost a good portion of talent, and while the numbers were solid on returning, they're...not great now?
Also, for the record, while all the Wrestling Is/Ashes shit was storyline, that was specifically done because they could not run CHIKARA shows for that period of time. That part was legit.
The storyline continuity was great, but then they went and did that, and it kind of pissed everyone off.
I've seen bits of the in-house produced showed. Cameramen are sitting down. The audio mix is terrible. Editing is bad. Camera shots don't match, color grade wise.
...I would buy them if I were you!
It's party time.
This has happened before, with one of the minis from Mexico, El Perrithito, I think. He said chinga tu madre, and when the crowd didn't get it, then said fuck your mother. ...He wasn't brought back.
It's been a long standing rule for a while, and it's usually gone over in meetings when there's a lot of new talent, but most people would just chalk it up to being in the heat of the moment and move on. But not Quack!
Also, while Easton is nice, it is rather small, and it seems like they're having issues filling it this time (hence why they changed the setup). I don't remember if KOT last year was on iPPV, but they definitely don't have the capabilities now, since it's all being filmed/produced in house.
I've got stories out the goddamn asshole. Like that time I nearly had a FallingEdge size Polish security guard try to kill me, or when Jon Barber barfed in my car, and rolled out of my car into a ditch a block away from the Easton venue, or that time I filmed a show at The Trocadero with no notice after just finishing the pre-show because Smart Mark's cameras wouldn't work with GoFightLive
Nice of the 4th grade class to help with the set
Oh man, I can't hate. I don't like the guy's sets, but they are decent production stuff/that's the look they want. The set they had at the relaunch looked good.
They lost a good portion of talent, and while the numbers were solid on returning, they're...not great now?
Also, for the record, while all the Wrestling Is/Ashes shit was storyline, that was specifically done because they could not run CHIKARA shows for that period of time. That part was legit.
The storyline continuity was great, but then they went and did that, and it kind of pissed everyone off.
I've seen bits of the in-house produced showed. Cameramen are sitting down. The audio mix is terrible. Editing is bad. Camera shots don't match, color grade wise.
...I would buy them if I were you!
Wow
If I was a somebody working with them like an event planner or a venue I would never work for this carny ass company again.
Frecklestein
Banned
From a story telling and character perspective, it's pretty damn unique. But from a business standpoint and people who depend on you for pay? It's pretty shitty to fuck with some people for the sake of a dumb wrestling story for a niche crowd.
Any truth to the rumor that the closing had anything to do with his divorce?
Arrowgigantic
Member
King of Trios might not have any kids there, but there will be at least one at Battle Wars 2, wearing her Fire Ant mask and Fire Ant t-shirt. Even though when we went to Battle Wars 1, one of the faces, Matthew Palmer, got on the mic and said he was going to stab a heel in the fucking neck with a butcher knife. As faces do.
BronsonLee
Member
That would imply people don't get paid garbage anyway
The unfortunate reality for a lot of CHIKARA guys is that while they're trained in the specific style, it's so inverted and awkward compared to actual lucha, that they can't really do much over there. They also are usually pretty bad at stuff outside of CHIKARA, unless they've gotten training elsewhere.
Eh...there's a reason why that was the prevailing rumor the whole time and that Quack specifically addressed it a whole bunch of times, which he never wants to do.
Mind you, he also did an interview a week before the show where they closed down (when rumors and shit had come out that this was the last show), and specifically denied it all, so don't trust anything.
It was very fun back in the day.
Frecklestein
Banned
still more effective than the Chikara Special
FlammableD
Banned
Frecklestein
Banned
wrestling is dumb
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Guys, if Stang wins the "strap," he'll be the oldest WWE Champion by 11 years.
She has seen some shit
Frecklestein
Banned
Which will be Trips later on down the road.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Good times!
BronsonLee
Member
Since we're on a CHIKARA kick atm
They put a game on Steam Greenlight!
It is incredible. For all the wrong reasons.
They put a game on Steam Greenlight!
It is incredible. For all the wrong reasons.
shaowebb
Member
Not as effective as magic
HOLY SHIT A GAME WITH JERVIS COTTONBELLY IN IT!?!
Sold. Sold. Take my money. I'm throwing it at the screen right now. Just take it. Take it all. My life is complete. Gentlemania is treading lightly all over town.
Frecklestein
Banned
beautiful
I hope not. Fox and Cesaro trying to get the WWE title only to be punished and sent to the mid card over and over again is a fantastic underdog story. I want the happy conclusion. I want to see Fox genuinely be happy.
BronsonLee
Member
Lol, Rudo Resurrection is a game they wanted to back when I was freaking there
That shit is totally dead. Their Kickstarter for it totally failed
It will be another landmark for Trips to beat
BronsonLee
Member
Lol, this shit again, I filmed this. Was the first wrestling show I ever filmed.
And that shit went super viral. Totally because of me. And nobody else! #BronsonMe
Hey Fox, did you know Cesaro was my pro wrestling trainer?
He was a total jerk. He did such cruel things like teach me how to bump without killing myself, post on body slams, take back body drops without dying, and then
run me over in my own car! AFTER he threw me through a plate glass window!
backup plan
We shall call them THE LONE WOLFS
I've just got back into wrestling, so things are weird right now.
Do people actually don't like Daniel Bryan? Why?
Do people really act as if KO is shit just because he's fat?
Wasn't Adam Rose a party boy? What happened?
Why is Eva Marie being pushed so hard? She's not a good wrestler, that I know, but is she charismatic or something?
Lucha Underground is awesome, just, AWESOME. I heard the ratings were ok, so there might be a season 2, is there any sort of confirmation regarding season 2?
Do people actually don't like Daniel Bryan? Why?
Do people really act as if KO is shit just because he's fat?
Wasn't Adam Rose a party boy? What happened?
Why is Eva Marie being pushed so hard? She's not a good wrestler, that I know, but is she charismatic or something?
Lucha Underground is awesome, just, AWESOME. I heard the ratings were ok, so there might be a season 2, is there any sort of confirmation regarding season 2?
BronsonLee
Member
IT'S THE SHELD
brisk tacos
Banned
More that his fans were so annoying that people are happy he's gone so they'll stop ruining the shows. I don't think anyone really dislikes Bryan, but most don't want him to come back only to die/Kurt Angle himself in the ring.
Again, just to annoy his annoying fans. Most people are fans of KO, but look at him. How can you pretend like his body isn't a talking point?
Dunno. He got serious for a bit, seemed like he might be going back to Leo Kruger and then vanished.
She's not being pushed hard. She's had 3 matches in NXT. She's getting extra attention because she's part of Total Divas and all of this stuff will be part of the show. She's also put in a lot of work and clearly improved a lot, even if she's not particularly good still. It's mostly just online fans being hateful assholes make it seem like she's getting a much bigger push than she is.
Frecklestein
Banned
Danny is a cripple who endangered himself and some of us (myself included) are bitter that he'd rather go see some shamans rather than proper professional help. Stop doing high impact moves.
KO just looks a little out of place on the main roster. Compare him to the guys he's been paired with since coming up. Cena. Orton. Cesaro. And that six man tag..? He's a super talented guy and I love his work on the mic as well as his theme. Honestly, he can keep the same mass, I just think if his arms were at least toned and he didn't have a t-shirt tan, I'd be a little more welcoming of his look. Also the jokes are funny in moderation.
Adam Rose sucks.
Total Divas.
Someone posted that they're in talks about something, I dont pay attention to LU so someone else will have to cover that one.