Several US states are regulating sales of prebuilt PC's that consume too much power in sleep mode.

What about those with solar panels, are they exempt?
Solar panels go into landfills and have toxic materials. They should not be allowed to purchase solar panels, and existing solar panel owners should be taxed for every megawatt they produce, then kicked out of the state. Damn efficient eco-terrorists.
 
Already had this thread but I can't find it.

- No, gaming PC's aren't being banned.
- Inefficient PC's which use too much energy during rest mode are and Alienware already have a sku that you can ship to california.
- energy regulations for OEM products are probably useful imo, regulation on products definitely are.
 
Either way, once you open the Pandora's box, these things can go only one way over time. Just like combustion motors.

Could it be a streaming future as the only option eventually?
 
Either way, once you open the Pandora's box, these things can go only one way over time. Just like combustion motors.

Could it be a streaming future as the only option eventually?
California and those other states ban all kind of silly things. What you have to be worried about is the states aren't contained.
 
This won't be popular but, yeah, kinda ridiculous computers need to drain that much power to give "the best experience".. i don't quite know how to word this so i won't bait trolls by trying to formulate any kind statement... I am fine with hardware that doesn't exceed power allowances, and i hope this encourages nvidia and co to rethink their power consumption.
 
But 'build your own' wasn't the issue right? Individual components aren't regulated, it's the pre built pc's aka - products.
California's regulation knocked out smaller "living room" pre-built gaming PCs, hence protected garden walled game consoles. Democrats effectively blocked near-game console form factor gaming PCs.
 
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Already had this thread but I can't find it.

- No, gaming PC's aren't being banned.
- Inefficient PC's which use too much energy during rest mode are and Alienware already have a sku that you can ship to california.
- energy regulations for OEM products are probably useful imo, regulation on products definitely are.
DELL Alienware gaming PC SKU allowed for California falls under the expandable exception.

DELL Alienware gaming PC SKUs not allowed for California are near-game console form factor expandable restricted gaming PCs.

Democrats don't want open software ecosystem smaller "living room" gaming PCs to step on garden walled game consoles.
 
DELL Alienware gaming PC SKU allowed for California falls under the expandable exception.

DELL Alienware gaming PC SKUs not allowed for California are near-game console form factor expandable restricted gaming PCs.

Democrats don't want open software ecosystem smaller "living room" gaming PCs to step on garden walled game consoles.
Source that's the exception that's being used also examples of the two sku's?
 
But 'build your own' wasn't the issue right? Individual components aren't regulated, it's the pre built pc's aka - products.
MS (Xbox)/Sony/Nintendo/Apple/Google Stadia/Democrats know DIY component gaming PC does not have "just works out-of-the-box" experence.
 
Source that's the exception that's being used also examples of the two sku's?
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Solar panels go into landfills and have toxic materials. They should not be allowed to purchase solar panels, and existing solar panel owners should be taxed for every megawatt they produce, then kicked out of the state. Damn efficient eco-terrorists.
Compared to the existing systems for mining electricity or gas Solar is a great way forward. It's not like the panels only last for 2 years or something. If you're talking hydro or wave energy I can get behind what you're saying. For example I used to take power from the grid but we have 21 panels on our roof and we only use grid power in a couple of months during winter, it's still a reduction of 80% in those months. I have used them for 3 years already and they are consistent at wiping our energy needs from the grid or mining requirements 9 out of 12 months of the year. I expect those panels to be in use for a minimum of another decade or two.

A recycling scheme for old panels would resolve your issue also. Again by comparison to existing methods out there solar on homes is a good step forward.

EDIT: When you're talking about developing countries solar is a very smart way forward as well, no infrastructure required in terms of environmental impacts, construction, materials etc. You need to factor more into your equation that what you state.
 
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Ok, so it's just about idle power consumption. I can actually agree with this then. There's no reason for PCs to consume any significant power on idle.
 
Compared to the existing systems for mining electricity or gas Solar is a great way forward. It's not like the panels only last for 2 years or something. If you're talking hydro or wave energy I can get behind what you're saying. For example I used to take power from the grid but we have 21 panels on our roof and we only use grid power in a couple of months during winter, it's still a reduction of 80% in those months. I have used them for 3 years already and they are consistent at wiping our energy needs from the grid or mining requirements 9 out of 12 months of the year. I expect those panels to be in use for a minimum of another decade or two.

A recycling scheme for old panels would resolve your issue also. Again by comparison to existing methods out there solar on homes is a good step forward.

EDIT: When you're talking about developing countries solar is a very smart way forward as well, no infrastructure required in terms of environmental impacts, construction, materials etc. You need to factor more into your equation that what you state.
Sorry, was trying to be tongue in cheak. I don't really care about this issue :)
 
That article does not mention the exception although I might have missed it.

You have seen the difference between a compliant sku and non compliant one.

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Non-compliant
Cali regulation creates additional barriers against pre-built gaming PCs that benefit "garden walled" game console competitors whose HQ offices are located in blue states.
 
Cali regulation creates additional barriers against pre-built gaming PCs that benefit "garden walled" game console competitors whose HQ offices are located in blue states.
All regulation is additional barriers but I am moving on cause you basically ignored the fact that one sku with a ssd is compliant over one without. The rest of the sku was the same.
 
All regulation is additional barriers but I am moving on cause you basically ignored the fact that one sku with a ssd is compliant over one without. The rest of the sku was the same.
1. You missed the certification process.
2. Regulations are not made equally i.e. game consoles escape the said regulation.
 
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This is so dumb. You are paying for the power generation and transmission. Whatever if I will be using more power. I doubt anyone will aproach a celebrity living in a huge house to move to a smaller and power efficient place.
 
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