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[Trojita]

One can acknowledge that they're half white, but be socially aware enough to know that they'll always be regarded as "other" among white people. Not the case with black people.

"That other side doesn't exist" is a very strong use of words. I know what you mean though (also mixed children always being accepted in the black communities isn't always true either unfortunately ). It's one of the reasons mixed children feel they have nowhere to belong.

 

[D i Z]

woe is me.

 

[Infinite]

I never claimed it was a utopia. You have chosen to view my words in that way because that is the narrow view you hold where everything and everyone is racist. Whoa as me. Continue on the self pity train.

I'm done wasting my time on you. You have nothing value to say anymore especially when you're trying to paint me as biter for acknowledging instutional racism in my city. Okay, dude.

And it's "woe is me".

 

[Thelonelykoopa]

Didn't really matter to me if he was black or white, or mixed, etc. He's trying to promote a better life for a disenfranchised group of people and that's all that matters. He isn't going all black face like the lady from the NAACP.



So you you completely ignore that you are half white? I know mixed kids grow up having an identity crisis and have a hard time learning where they fit in in the world, but it just seems like a disregard of your being.

I feel he ment as far as society views him he is all black so why even bother identify as part white. I may be biracial but I cant imagine what its like to be biracial black in society eyes.

As being part Native american I had to come to terms with the fact one side of my heritage literally massacred the other half and im not sure if I have truly come to terms with it I mean how can I. But Native Americans are such a small group now they are almost non existent so our issue is more of identity than anything else well that and goverment fucking many of us over.

 

[dbztrk]

"That other side doesn't exist" is a very strong use of words. I know what you mean though (also mixed children always being accepted in the black communities isn't always true either unfortunately ). It's one of the reasons mixed children feel they have nowhere to belong.

Exactly. How many mixed kids are teased and ridiculed for being mixed? Hell how many light skinned black people are treated poorly by black people. Some black people want to act as if discrimination only goes one way. It doesn't. Multiple realities exist for all kinds of people.

 

[FyreWulff]

I think you would have to make a concerted effort to not interact with people of a different background.

I live in one of the most segregated cities in the United States. It's not in the South. The border of the black community's neighborhood was where the military set up a defensive perimeter because white people were going around and lynching black residents unimpeded.

The ideas and organizations that led to that situation still exist today, in bigger numbers.

Fuck off with your racism-is-over BS.

 

[dbztrk]

I'm done wasting my time on you. You have nothing value to say anymore especially when you're trying to paint me as biter for acknowledging instutional racism in my city. Okay, dude.

And it's "woe is me".

You're wasting your own time. Learn to accept that despite the fact that institutional racism exist, the outcome of this isn't the same for everyone.

 

[The Faceless Master]

In terms of housing sure. But plenty of people of difference races interact with each other and gasp develop friendships. Pay attention the next time you are on the train or walking down the street. You'll see many interracial couples as well. This is very much my reality and plenty of other peoples.

i see the same thing in SW GA

and i also see dudes blazing around in their huge pickemup trucks with metal front guards, fog lights, mud tires and full size confederate flags mounted on a pole on the back

 

[Trojita]

Exactly. How many mixed kids are teased and ridiculed for being mixed? Hell how many light skinned black people are treated poorly by black people. Some black people want to act as if discrimination only goes one way. It doesn't. Multiple realities exist for all kinds of people.

Let's not say that as if it is equal in amount. Black people have to deal with a systematic racist system, the effects still felt because of slavery, racist attacks and prejudice today, and unfortunately even people that don't mean black people any harm, but don't stand up for them or speak out when injustices happen.

I just felt it needed to be pointed out that some mixed kids aren't welcomed with open arms on both sides.

 

[Angelus Errare]

You're wasting your own time. Learn to accept that despite the fact that institutional racism exist, the outcome of this isn't the same for everyone.

Your bubble, I hope it asphyxiates you.

 

[dbztrk]

I live in one of the most segregated cities in the United States. It's not in the South. The border of the black community's neighborhood was where the National Guard set up a defensive perimeter because white people were going around and lynching black residents unimpeded.

The ideas and organizations that led to that situation still exist today, in bigger numbers.

Fuck off with your racism-is-over BS.

Where the fucks are you getting the "racism-is-over" shit from in my post. It's like some of you are complete devoid of anything other than black persecution. The fact that you seem to think that there aren't people that exist who are not racist and that they don't actively fight racism and genuinely push for diversity is mind boggling. However, everyone is the product of their own life experiences.

 

[dbztrk]

Your bubble, I hope it asphyxiates you.

Clearly you're mad because your bubble is suffocating you and you don't have the mental fortitude to push through it.

I would wish you good luck but that would be a waste.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

I have never said that nor implied that. You seem to think that this is the only reality of minorities in NYC. It is not!

In the below neighborhood blacks had a higher income than whites!

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/nyregion/01census.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

It's like you want to stay on the whoa as me train. Yes racism exist. Yes there are shit ton of issues but not every one in this country has the exact same problems or have the exact same experiences in life. Your life experience in not the only one. When you fucking learn to accept that then this conversation can end.

Wow you can find one neighbourhood where blacks had a higher income than whites. Time to pack it up, we made it!!!

Whatever reality you are living in where a few pocket examples of blacks succeeding or successful desegregation means there is not an overwhelming issue of race and minority struggle is just flat out false. If that is not what you are saying you really need to back the fuck away from fighting for this "oh we have come so far" none sense. Its laughable and untrue.

There is no woe is me train we are riding. No one in this even brought up racism or that avenue, you really set the ball rolling down that that path actually. We are telling the reality of what city life is to many minorities. Congrats, you didn't have any negative experiences, we dont base progress off of a fee success stories, we base it off of overwhelming desire for change and crippling amounts of evidence that says loud and clear there is a problem.

Racism, institutional and structural problems, police brutality dont fucking go away because I accept people had other experiences. Dont be so fucking naive.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Where the fucks are you getting the "racism-is-over" shit from in my post. It's like some of you are complete devoid of anything other than black persecution. The fact that you seem to think that there aren't people that exist who are not racist and that they don't actively fight racism and genuinely push for diversity is mind boggling. However, everyone is the product of their own life experiences.

Simply put, you're dense. What you are trying to argue is some fictitious American society in which racism is some small thing on death's door in America, and that Americans by far are enlightened mass of people who are opening to all races and those who are of several races.

Thus we make fun of you and continue to mock you using phrases like "utopia" and "post racial".

 

[Trojita]

It's like some of you are complete devoid of anything other than black persecution.

 

[FyreWulff]

Where the fucks are you getting the "racism-is-over" shit from in my post. It's like some of you are complete devoid of anything other than black persecution. The fact that you seem to think that there aren't people that exist who are not racist and that they don't actively fight racism and genuinely push for diversity is mind boggling. However, everyone is the product of their own life experiences.

Nobody is saying non-racist people exist.

Non-racist people existing doesn't excuse plugging your ears to the damage the rest of the people that are racists are doing overtly, passively, and everything in between.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Clearly you're mad because your bubble is suffocating you and you don't have the mental fortitude to push through it.

I would wish you good luck but that would be a waste.

lol. Bless your heart for trying.

 

[dbztrk]

Let's not say that as if it is equal in amount. Black people have to deal with a systematic racist system, the effects still felt because of slavery, racist attacks and prejudice today, and unfortunately even people that don't mean black people any harm, but don't stand up for them or speak out when injustices happen.

I just felt it needed to be pointed out that some mixed kids aren't welcomed with open arms on both sides.

Who is saying it as if it is in equal amounts?!? Damn! Its like some of us have to always place us on the fucking bottom at all fucking times and be the fucking victims all the time and can't acknowledge any our own bad fucking behavior.

We are not perfect we do fuck up things to people to. No this does not mean that it is in proportion numbers. It simple means we do fucking bad things to people. Nothing more and nothing less.

 

[D i Z]

Where the fucks are you getting the "racism-is-over" shit from in my post. It's like some of you are complete devoid of anything other than black persecution. The fact that you seem to think that there aren't people that exist who are not racist and that they don't actively fight racism and genuinely push for diversity is mind boggling. However, everyone is the product of their own life experiences.

You should re-read your own posts. And your tone toward and about black people and black issues sounds more and more like frustration about yourself more than anything else.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Who is saying it as if it is in equal amounts?!? Damn! Its like some of us have to always place us on the fucking bottom at all fucking times and be the fucking victims all the time and can't acknowledge any our own bad fucking behavior.

We are not perfect we do fuck up things to people to. No this does not mean that it is in proportion numbers. It simple means we do fucking bad things to people. Nothing more and nothing less.

Your woe is me persecution complex is showing.

 

[FyreWulff]

In the below neighborhood blacks had a higher income than whites!

That happened before in history. Guess what happened.

They were massacred. This was within the lifetime of people living today.

It wasn't even officially acknowledged by the government until 200 fucking 1.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

"That other side doesn't exist" is a very strong use of words. I know what you mean though (also mixed children always being accepted in the black communities isn't always true either unfortunately ). It's one of the reasons mixed children feel they have nowhere to belong.

I don't quite agree with this. There is a sense of solidarity, because the innate sense of otherness. There's a reason the word brother is a term of endearment among black folks that don't even know or even like eachother. Colorism is an issue though, something blacks and Latinos go through.



Also I'm really not trying to hear that teased for being light skinned bullshit. Give me a break.

 

[dbztrk]

Nobody is saying non-racist people exist.

Non-racist people existing doesn't excuse plugging your ears to the damage the rest of the people that are racists are doing overtly, passively, and everything in between.

But who is plugging their ears? I have never ever stated racist have not done damage and continue to do damage. However you are one of the first to acknowledge that non-racist people do exist. Now lets take it a step further. Because these people exist, it is very much possible that some black people can have different life experiences while acknowledging that systemic racism exist.

 

[The Faceless Master]

dbztrk keep up the good work. you/re one of the good ones, a real credit to your people.


^hi-5^

 

[Byakuya769]

This is the only part that kind of had me do a double take



Maybe not all families talk about this stuff (though from personal experience I don't know how you'd avoid this but maybe that's because I went to school with a lot of people of various colors, including mixed) but to say it's part of white privilege is weird.

It's also a contradiction because the basis of the one drop rule is racist, which would mean it had to be (during slavery, post civil war, civil rights era) and still is in places a thing white racists adhere to.

The privilege being that race as a concept is unimportant on a day to day basis for hat the hegemony basically sees as the neutral or default status (whiteness). Thus, people who are not racist can choose to ignore race as a concept because they aren't having "son, you know being a black man means people have negative perceptions about you, thisnisbreallythis you should carry yourself..." conversations.

 

[dbztrk]

That happened before in history. Guess what happened.

They were massacred. This was within the lifetime of people living today.

It wasn't even officially acknowledged by the government until 200 fucking 1.

OMG! Bad shit has happened and continues to happen. Let me know when that shit happens in Bayside Queens.

Some of you want to stay perpetual victims. You can't take one minute to acknowledge that despite systemic racism, some black people have managed to do well for themselves or how that some schools are fighting for diversity in the midst of school segregation. It's like your whole world will collapse if you acknowledge some positives. Both realities can and do exist.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

But who is plugging their ears? I have never ever stated racist have not done damage and continue to do damage. However you are one of the first to acknowledge that non-racist people do exist. Now lets take it a step further. Because these people exist, it is very much possible that some black people can have different life experiences while acknowledging that systemic racism exist.

No person who ever had this discussion ever has implied everyone is racist. Its so laughable that in all these posts and discussions that is the dumb twisted wrong conclusion you drew. No one is even implying that we all experience life differently to some degree. We are saying that the black experience AS A WHOLE in America is a disadvantaged, disrespected and ignored aspect of the lives of many black people and that is a problem. No one every said some black people don't get to experience the very best of this world. No one even hinted at it so what the fuck are you going on about?

 

[No Love]

OMG! Bad shit has happened and continues to happen. Let me know when that shit happens in Bayside Queens.

Some one you want to stay perpetual victims. You can't take one minute to acknowledge that despite systemic racism, some black people have managed to do well for themselves or how that some schools are fighting for diversity in the midst of school segregation. It's like your whole world will collapse if you acknowledge some positives. Both realities can and do exist.

The ol' "The past is past, stop bringing it up and it'll stop being a problem!" racist retort. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

The massacre is happening, it's just one person at a time instead of 200 in a day.

 

[FyreWulff]

Let me know when that shit happens in Bayside Queens.

"I got mine, fuck everyone else" basically

You're so fucking dense that the singularity at the center of our galaxy actually just had information escape back through it's event horizon

 

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