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Sherlock Series 3 |OT| - THE Source for Fiction’s Cheekbone Fetish

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Dennis

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Just finished the wedding episode. I liked it for the most part. Not the strongest episode but enjoyable none the less.

I cracked up at Molly's Sherlock-wannabee boyfriend make a fool of himself.
 
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Auron_Kale

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i_am_not_jon_ames said:
Oh my godddddd.
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In short, they will gut us in three episodes like they can with a season of Doctor Who.

Can't wait.

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Dennis said:
I cracked up at Molly's Sherlock-wannabee boyfriend make a fool of himself.
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Meat dagger!
 
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Dice//

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Dennis said:
Just finished the wedding episode. I liked it for the most part. Not the strongest episode but enjoyable none the less.
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I feel like the second episode of each season has been somewhat weak. Womp-womp.
I thought it was pretty creative and crafty on a visual level. I like the speech and getting a letter from "Cam" (HMMMMMM C.A.M.?).

Question I'm just throwing out there:
Mycroft seems really competent. Do you think he's as smart, less smart, or smarter than Holmes? The books also demonstrate that he's quite good, sometimes that he *is* the government's intelligence division (or something, been a while since I read the books). Other takes on his character also play him up pretty effectively with that respect. Thoughts?
 
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The Artful Dodger

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Dice// said:
Question I'm just throwing out there:
Mycroft seems really competent. Do you think he's as smart, less smart, or smarter than Holmes? The books also demonstrate that he's quite good, sometimes that he *is* the government's intelligence division (or something, been a while since I read the books). Other takes on his character also play him up pretty effectively with that respect. Thoughts?
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I think it says alot that when Sherlock was thinking out the mystery in the last episode, Mycroft was in his head guiding him towards the answer.
 
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Dice//

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The Artful Dodger said:
I think it says alot that when Sherlock was thinking out the mystery in the last episode, Mycroft was in his head guiding him towards the answer.
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It almost bugs me though.
Mycroft seems just as capable, but Sherlock is the more "entertaining" of the two, the "doer" ...(snicker).
 
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The Artful Dodger

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Dice// said:
It almost bugs me though.
Mycroft seems just as capable, but Sherlock is the more "entertaining" of the two, the "doer" ...(snicker).
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In the books, which has been illustrated in the shows. Mycroft shuns physical work of any sort but is more brilliant. He is also even more of a recluse than Sherlock. The issue isn't that Mycroft is just as capable, he's more intelligent, but he's lazier in many ways and has a great disdain for any sort of physical work whatsoever.
 
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Mariolee

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I was actually frustrated with how Mycroft seemed to be a bit less smart or clever than Sherlock the past two series, but this series has really thrown that around.
 
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The Artful Dodger

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My biggest problem with it is the fact that they play up that Mycroft works for intelligence.
While it is alluded to, it's very vague and less involved than they make it in the stories...

As far as I can tell it's only mentioned in one story, and almost in passing.

The Contrast in the stories is completely stark, where Mycroft is this brilliant but totally reclusive individual, and remarkably lazy.

Sherlock says this in The Greek Interpreter:

...he has no ambition and no energy. He will not even go out of his way to verify his own solutions, and would rather be considered wrong than take the trouble to prove himself right. Again and again I have taken a problem to him, and have received an explanation which has afterwards proved to be the correct one. And yet he was absolutely incapable of working out the practical points...
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He stands as a stark contrast to Sherlock, which really hasn't been as evident in the Show. I'm not really upset about it, it's just a difference that explains the character (or at least, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's intent in creating him) alot better.
 
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Demon Ice

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Was re-watching Empty Hearse and I noticed that when they're video chatting with the train fanatic, he's briefly chewing on that dangly part of his hat, just as Sherlock and Mycroft deduced earlier in the episode. I love the little details like that :p
 
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mclem

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Final rating for The Empty Hearse: 12.72M.

Put it this way: If series 4 wasn't already definite, it'd be commissioned like a shot on the back of those numbers.
 
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metalslimer

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Make no mistake, this is arguably the darkest episode in the series' history, going to places it has never trodden before. It is emotionally devastating in ways completely different from The Reichenbach Fall, while retaining a vein of tight, fierce humour that relies explicitly upon character based incident and wordplay that is also markedly different from the comedy that appears in The Sign of Three, for example.
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This is about to get crazy. Hype!
 
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bodyofanamerican

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Tugatrix said:
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Edit:

Spoiler Free Review

http://www.sherlockology.com/news/2014/1/9/his-last-vow-review-090114

HYPE HYPE HYPE
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This is not what some have cited as the 'fan service' that has appeared in The Empty Hearse and The Sign of Three, more a logical follow-through from previously established events and a fulfillment of some possibly long held suspicions that coalesce into some dramatic final closing scenes.
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Hooooo boy.

I'm also very curious about the capitalization in the last sentence of the review!
 
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addik

Member
I hope they don't kill Mary or make her be the bad guy all along so that we could go back to the same old stuff (aka, Sherlock and Watson back to living in Baker St. and solving crimes together). I have grown to like her and she seems to add something new to the table.
 
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Auron_Kale

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Here's another set of spoiler-free impressions, with a few more bullet points: cumberbatchweb

Also, for TSOT, Steven Thompson did the stag do, Moffat did the speech & Gatiss for the cases.

(I should not be trawling through tumblr before getting ready for work... Ugh)
 
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Joni

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The Artful Dodger said:
My biggest problem with it is the fact that they play up that Mycroft works for intelligence.
While it is alluded to, it's very vague and less involved than they make it in the stories...
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He made it quite clear though in The Bruce-Partington Plans how Mycroft runs the government.
The conclusions of every department are passed to him, and he is the central exchange, the clearinghouse, which makes out the balance. All other men are specialists, but his specialism is omniscience.
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Deadly Cyclone

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"When the end credits start, do not turn off your television or change the channel. Watch to the very close."

Interesting...

"Make no mistake, this is arguably the darkest episode in the series' history, going to places it has never trodden before. It is emotionally devastating in ways completely different from The Reichenbach Fall"

Oh god.
 
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War Peaceman

You're a big guy.
Reichenbach Fall wasn't really emotionally devastating, so it doesn't exactly mean much.

The wait was devastating, but that was never intentional.
 
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Auron_Kale

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vcassano1 said:
Reichenbach Fall wasn't really emotionally devastating, so it doesn't exactly mean much.

The wait was devastating, but that was never intentional.
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Agreed. Most of the people I talked to were not so much crushed by what happened but the wait itself for the resolution.

Right now I'd say the wait for getting S4 greenlit officially by the BBC is what sucks at the moment.
 
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ScreenSplitter

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I don't think I can really watch Reichenbach Fall again. The menace is sort of... gone :\ That's literally my only issue with how they resolved it, they made Moriarty look like a suicidal moron.
 
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War Peaceman

You're a big guy.
There was never any menace! They were obviously not going to kill Sherlock in a show named Sherlock about Sherlock Holmes starring Benedict Cumberbatch as Sherlock. They even show him at his grave. It was crazy as fuck trying to imagine the hows and the whys. It was always about the mystery not the drama.
 
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ScreenSplitter

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vcassano1 said:
There was never any menace! They were obviously not going to kill Sherlock in a show named Sherlock about Sherlock Holmes starring Benedict Cumberbatch as Sherlock. They even show him at his grave. It was crazy as fuck trying to imagine the hows and the whys. It was always about the mystery not the drama.
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No but I liked to think Moriarty had the upper hand for some of that episode is what I meant. I did stay until the end, I'm not a complete moron.
 
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ScreenSplitter

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HigXx said:
Digital Spy have given us 12 teasers about His Last Vow.

#5 has put my brain into overdrive
I think it's gonna be Mary
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4 has me worried

but it also draws heavily on elements from 'His Last Bow', the chronologically final Holmes story.

My mind casts back to when Matt Smith claimed he was doing Series 8 of Doctor Who...
 
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User 100115

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HigXx said:
Digital Spy have given us 12 teasers about His Last Vow.

#5 has put my brain into overdrive
I think it's gonna be Mary
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I shouldn't have read that.

They are going to do the drugs thing for extra angst aren't they? Nooooooooo. But I am very much looking for more BAMF!John in my life, so that's good.
 
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Krev

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Auron_Kale said:
Agreed. Most of the people I talked to were not so much crushed by what happened but the wait itself for the resolution.

Right now I'd say the wait for getting S4 greenlit officially by the BBC is what sucks at the moment.
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That's a foregone conclusion. The only suspense is over whether it's an 18 month wait or a two year wait.
 
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Exterminieren

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Auron_Kale said:
Agreed. Most of the people I talked to were not so much crushed by what happened but the wait itself for the resolution.

Right now I'd say the wait for getting S4 greenlit officially by the BBC is what sucks at the moment.
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Sherlock just got nearly thirteen million viewers, without iPlayer. It's not going anywhere.
 
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Auron_Kale

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Krev said:
That's a foregone conclusion. The only suspense is over whether it's an 18 month wait or a two year wait.
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Exterminieren said:
Sherlock just got nearly thirteen million viewers, without iPlayer. It's not going anywhere.
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Now it's a foregone conclusion (thanks to the official numbers) but still there's no word from the BBC. Do I think it's coming? Of course, BBC would be stupid not to greenlight it now.

Still, we're all waiting on the official word, aren't we? :p
 
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