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I actually sort of do hope it's actually Moriarty for real because in retrospect, how he died in Reichenbach is disappointing is fuck. Being foiled by Moriarty's miraculous men was not a fitting ending.
peanutbutterlatte
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Well the fact Holmes knew what was going on the entire time (apart from Moriarty's suicide gambit) was disappointing, but hey.
Marc
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Or 'Now FREE for is the'. Think about it.
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Also, it just doesn't fit Moriarty's character. He's not just going to assume he's won; he doesn't leave things to chance. I can buy him committing suicide at how boring everything is, but only after he's truly sure he's won. Him blowing his head off when he did, only for him not have won either (and for what was a rather poor explanation), just feels a bit unfair to the character.
AFollowerNotALeader
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Guys,
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Mary *is* Moriarty
Finished the second episode.
The show is certainly different, but I dunno why people say they are pandering to the tumblr/shipping/etc crowd. I think it's just a phase the show has to go with, with Watson getting married in the books and all.
Also I was expecting a bomb to go off at the end of the second episode as Sherlock walked away lol.
The show is certainly different, but I dunno why people say they are pandering to the tumblr/shipping/etc crowd. I think it's just a phase the show has to go with, with Watson getting married in the books and all.
Also I was expecting a bomb to go off at the end of the second episode as Sherlock walked away lol.
Future Foundation
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Bite your tongue.
I would assume it's a Sebastian Moran type character in season 4, who's the last chain in Moriarty's network. He's just using the name of Moriarty to cause panic. That would make much better sense than bringing him back to life.
I love all the book references in the show, it's a real treat when you see them.
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Secret Fawful
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Wow, is everyone just forgetting that
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Moriarty had a brother in the books
VanquishUK
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According to the Sherlock Holmes Wiki, Moriarty is believed to be of similar or greater intellect than that of Sherlock. If Moriarty is more intelligent than Sherlock, it's very possible that he successfully tricked him into thinking he died.
Prophet Steve
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Because I'm a spoiler hound.
Mary made it? People were worried for Mycroft, he made it?
Haha, reading back through the impressions after watching the show. Dunno if you already saw it, but:
Nah, nothing to worry about.
Anyhow, pretty great episode. The build-up from the previous episodes also feels a bit more justified but I wished they would have used more of the season to build the villain up. Also there never really was any mystery, which was a bit of a bummer and many things did feel a bit predictable.
I have yet to see the episode, but are the writers still torturing her?
bodyofanamerican
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What was the post-credits sequence?
Prophet Steve
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They kind of....forgot?
I forgot to check, but now I have looked and it is just Moriarty saying "Miss me?", before the screen looks like a television going off.
This episode reminds me of this scene with Moriaty. Charles Magnussen just perfected the art.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN7DYPJLXkc
'Every person has their pressure point. Someone they want to protect from harm.'
'You've got John...'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN7DYPJLXkc
'Every person has their pressure point. Someone they want to protect from harm.'
'You've got John...'
Sorry for linking to the Daily Mail - *spit* - but here's a bit more info on that gorgeous house.
http://www.*****************/scienc...eam-home-Britains-leading-industrialists.html
Edit: Oh. I *can't* link to the Daily Mail. That's pleasing, but I had no idea it'd gone in. It's called Swinhay House, anyway.
Edit2: Here's a link that probably won't get starred.
http://www.*****************/scienc...eam-home-Britains-leading-industrialists.html
Edit: Oh. I *can't* link to the Daily Mail. That's pleasing, but I had no idea it'd gone in. It's called Swinhay House, anyway.
Edit2: Here's a link that probably won't get starred.
Spoilers:
I call dibs on the obvious conspiracy theory that Moriaty is really dead and Sherlock is actually behind the conveniently timed video stunt which saved himself from embarking on a deadly assignment. (Sherlock did infiltrate Moriaty's network afterall and we've already seen Sherlock pull off a similar stunt sending a mass message to cellphones)
I call dibs on the obvious conspiracy theory that Moriaty is really dead and Sherlock is actually behind the conveniently timed video stunt which saved himself from embarking on a deadly assignment. (Sherlock did infiltrate Moriaty's network afterall and we've already seen Sherlock pull off a similar stunt sending a mass message to cellphones)
bodyofanamerican
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Thanks for specifying!
Just had a look at that Guardian piece. That's just shameful.
Just had a look at that Guardian piece. That's just shameful.
Wowfunhappy
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I loved this episode up until the very end.
Sherlock getting in trouble for murdering a ridiculously evil man seems stupid (would he have gotten in trouble for murdering Moriarity too?), as well as just generally anticlimactic.
Sherlock getting in trouble for murdering a ridiculously evil man seems stupid (would he have gotten in trouble for murdering Moriarity too?), as well as just generally anticlimactic.
So:
Series 1, Series 3.
In which series did Moriarty have the most screentime?
I'm trying to puzzle it through. On the one hand, he's dead in this one, so you'd expect it to be lower, but on the other, he only really appeared in one short and one long scene in the final episode of S1, but appeared in a number of brief scenes (in the first episode) and one long scene (in the last) in S3.
Series 1, Series 3.
In which series did Moriarty have the most screentime?
I'm trying to puzzle it through. On the one hand, he's dead in this one, so you'd expect it to be lower, but on the other, he only really appeared in one short and one long scene in the final episode of S1, but appeared in a number of brief scenes (in the first episode) and one long scene (in the last) in S3.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
If someone shot Rupert Murdoch (if only, am I right?) then he would be hounded in the press and face a high profile criminal case. It does seem slightly off that they would set up such a climax and then immediately reverse it. Especially having only just come back from the dead AND in the very same episode, been on the brink of death. They pushed the peril too far.
Magnusson was fantastic though. What a horrible thing.
Permanently A
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Pretty crazy episode, I really loved Sherlock's mind palace
The one thing I don't understand is why Mycroft was protecting CAM. And why did the same people who were trying to indict CAM for blackmail give a shit that Sherlock
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right after Mary shot him
The one thing I don't understand is why Mycroft was protecting CAM. And why did the same people who were trying to indict CAM for blackmail give a shit that Sherlock
killed him
3, easy
The Elite
BOSS
I thought the gunshot sequence went on far too long. Took me out of the episode for a while.
Also, you don't need to spoiler tag once the episode has aired.
On a whole, I thought the episode was good but lost its way somewhere in the middle. Loved the ending though.
That little tie in with the James Bond universe was hilarious.
Permanently A
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Sherlock comes back because every TV in the country is broadcasting Moriarty's face asking "did you miss me?"
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
CAM had info on Mycroft and sometimes helped the government out. He was useful.
They gave a shit because he was a big public figure and in Britain we have a legal system where you aren't supposed to be able to kill people without facing criminal charges. The implication was that those figures wanted to not punish Sherlock but were trying to find a way of getting him out of the way.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
what bit was this?
Permanently A
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Oh man, I misheard Sherlock's "who knows" as "the noose." lol
The Elite
BOSS
Mycroft's line about about a blunt instrument is (well I think it is) reference to M's line in Casino Royale about Bond being a "blunt instrument".
bodyofanamerican
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That was bloody amazing. I don't think I've seen better TV programming ever. I hope Moriarty isn't alive, he sure as heck wouldn't have sat around those 2 years doing nothing but planning his return.
If I walked up to Ted Bundy or some killer on the street and shot him in the face, I would be charged with murder. Maybe I wouldn't have gone to prison for the rest of my life, but you can't go around killing people because they're evil.
Why wouldn't he?
Exactly. He basically shot Rupert Murdoch in the face in front of a Governmental and police audience. It may delight some people, morbidly, but it's still murder.
petethepanda
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It'll definitely be interesting to see how much they deal with the fallout of the murder next season or if they just kind of brush it under the rug.
blunt instrument
I think it's likely it was just some plan left behind (though why it would take so long to implement, I don't know) or it's some relative of Moriarty.
Rule One: Steven Moffat lies.