Yeah, and you don't get access to it even if you recruit them.
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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
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Yeah, and you don't get access to it even if you recruit them.
Save points.
I feel like the save anywhere thing, while a time saver, has allowed Atlus to be particularly careless in encounter design. Oh well.
It's not like it took ages to earn all that or anything. :/
Use this lovely tool here
http://erikku.github.io/smt4tool/
type in Nadja on the search bar , enter, and scroll down a bit. Shows all possible combinations
MegaKungFuRadio
Member
I can't tell if it's allowing them to be more careless, or I'm playing more carelessly. Either way, the result is me dying way more than I did in Nocturne. Basically all the stuff that, taken out of context, would seem to make the game easier than the series has been to date (save anywhere, fuse anywhere, full HP/MP recovery upon leveling) is more than offset by the rest of the game's balancing.
Ace Harding
Member
Well I'm seeing how powerful element affinities can be. I tried fighting a demon in a quest that was probably too powerful for me, he was casting powerful lighting spells and wiped my team while one demon on my squad nulled lighting. The enemy kept casting that lighting spell to no avail. It took a bunch of turns, but this last demon standing beat him pretty much solo.
Deified Data
Banned
Whoever initially offered the advice on granting 2 of a demon's requests and then ending negotiations...thank you. Works like a charm.
Wow I thought the alignments would be opposite for those choices.
Law is monotheistic.
Keep this in mind for future quests and whatnot.
LMAO that makes sense I guess
But in general
finishing enemies off instead of sparing them
Whatever. If this guy gets to go first I am immediately dead, rapid fire then maziodyne. I don't have any weaknesses either.
I guess I could try fusing to get a null persona but this guy is no cakewalk.
Deified Data
Banned
Damn, I picked the latter assuming it was Law. Oh, well.
Yeah, it's easy to mistake it if you think things are straightforward like that.
You've just gotta keep in mind that Law isn't necessarily good and Chaos isn't necessarily evil.
Though, that question isn't worth too many points.
Aeana beat him at level 24 I believe. I was closer to 30. Using lots of buffs and debuffs helps.
I'm loving this game so, so much. I love the demon design, I love the snappy but deep gameplay, with fusions, whispering and app points, and I especially love the atmosphere and general setting of the game.
I've decided to absolutely not worry about alignment at all. Whatever decisions I think are best, is what I'll do. However, do we know yet if any of the particular endings are considered "better" or "worse"? I'm assuming that some people would rather have the answer to this spoiler-tagged, so please do so
I've decided to absolutely not worry about alignment at all. Whatever decisions I think are best, is what I'll do. However, do we know yet if any of the particular endings are considered "better" or "worse"? I'm assuming that some people would rather have the answer to this spoiler-tagged, so please do so
SpaceBridge
Member
So what do you guys prefer: the populated but dystopian setting of IV or the bleak, barren and desolate post-apocalypse of Nocturne?
I'm kinda of torn. I like the NPC's and slightly cyberpunk undertones of IV, but Nocturnes world was a character onto itself.
I'm kinda of torn. I like the NPC's and slightly cyberpunk undertones of IV, but Nocturnes world was a character onto itself.
Definitely don't underestimate this strategy for anything you can't beat due to damage. I start out every boss with 2x rakukaja and an attack debuff now. Managed to beat (Shibuya proximity)
Grendel
However, do we know yet if any of the particular endings are considered "better" or "worse"? I'm assuming that some people would rather have the answer to this spoiler-tagged, so please do so
Neutral is supposed to be the most desirable ending, but also the most difficult to get
ForteanMan
Member
Was finally able to fuse my Avatar in game. Thoughts on his stats? I'm a bit happy at how his resistances turned out.
Was finally able to fuse my Avatar in game. Thoughts on his stats? I'm a bit happy at how his resistances turned out.
Woah check out all of those resistances... I don't recall Loki ever having that many resistances, so i'm guessing you added a couple of Null skills, right?
Anyway, that's a really strong Loki.
Was finally able to fuse my Avatar in game. Thoughts on his stats? I'm a bit happy at how his resistances turned out.
Looking good.
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My last two boss fights have gone like this:
MC dies in the first turn (first was due to getting slammed by a crit, second due to getting slammed by repel after a charge move), then the rest of the party auto attack for a few minutes because they were all null phys but ran out of mp after stacking buffs and no one could be swapped out.
ForteanMan
Member
Yeah through the many steps it took to fuse him, I made sure to bring all of the null attributes the original demons had. So far he's been pretty great as you can imagine.
InsaneZero
Member
It's for situations where you don't want to waste a Press Turn to get to your MC's turn or when your MC is KO'd. In practice, this means that you can replace a demon while your MC can do something else.
Was finally able to fuse my Avatar in game. Thoughts on his stats? I'm a bit happy at how his resistances turned out.
That thing is damn near unstoppable, right?
ForteanMan
Member
Ha ha ha, yeah so far he hasn't really been touched.
Resist you take less damage, Null you take no damage.
mugurumakensei
Member
Resist lowers damage taken or chance of hitting for ailments, light, and dark attacks. Null blocks it entirely.
So are there any consequences to lowering the difficulty or will it only just make the game a bit easier? I'm having fun playing on the regular difficulty but due to a situation at work I'm working mad OT for probably the next month or so, so I'm not really able to give a lot of attention to the game and all of the extra time this difficulty is taking me.
And what does lowering the difficulty change? Hoping it's just stats and such.
And what does lowering the difficulty change? Hoping it's just stats and such.
FrontRelinquish
Neo Member
It's useful for resurrecting a demon that got killed mid-battle. The normal rez skill will revive a demon, but they will stay in your stock and you need the hero to waste a turn calling them in. With Sab, you will revive the demon and put them back into the fight immediately. It's worth having in my opinion.
Sadly I couldn't fuse my avatar Demon. He's an accident demon (WHY) and even if I could fuse him, he's too low of a level for my party (lvl 37)
Maybe next time
Wait, so Yoshi can only come out of accidents? That blows.
ForteanMan
Member
Sadly I couldn't fuse my avatar Demon. He's an accident demon (WHY) and even if I could fuse him, he's too low of a level for my party (lvl 37)
Maybe next time
Man that sucks, sorry to hear that!
Deified Data
Banned
IV is my favorite SMT setting to date.
Believe it or not I was actually thinking outside the box as best I could. At the point in the game where you fight him I felt like the game was setting up Law to be just as "bad" (if not worse) as Chaos.
Was finally able to fuse my Avatar in game. Thoughts on his stats? I'm a bit happy at how his resistances turned out.
Want. I wish this had SJ's demon password swap right now.
ForteanMan
Member
Ha ha ha, I'd gladly share if I could!
cj_iwakura
Member
If this means who I think it means, bring Raiji and lightning resist armor.
Laugh.
Need a word of advice on the Tokyo Metropolitan quest:
Will sparing the demon affect any dialogue with Kayama? Since I haven't met him and all, I don't want to burn the bridge, but I'm kind of siding with the demon here... even though fighting him was a LOT more fun.
Yeah. Him and the rest of the "hero" demons (so no Joan of Arc, etc)
robotzombie
Member
is there a lot of missable/guide-necessary stuff in this? I kind of want to play from scratch but don't really want to miss out on stuff or hit a crazy brick wall
And the ending type stuff, there's no real "best" right? They are all just different based on alignment?
And the ending type stuff, there's no real "best" right? They are all just different based on alignment?
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Just had a crash while attempting to fundraise.
Luckily I had just loaded up my save file, so I didn't really lose anything.
Luckily I had just loaded up my save file, so I didn't really lose anything.
Ok this some bullshit (spoilers for the point were alignments become permanent):
Ok so reloaded an earlier save so that I could take the Neutral path and I went with Walter instead of Jonathon. So I then go through both alternate versions of Tokyo and get to the final alignment choice with the White. I picked maintain the status quo to offset what I assumed was a Chaos surplus, but I get to the white forest and Jonathon and Gabriel are there. So I reload before the Kenji fight and then pick destroy the order of things and Walter and Lucifer are there. That means that before the final choice my alignment was sitting close to zero. So essentially I'm being punished for being TOO Neutral.
Deified Data
Banned
How much macca does the fundraise skill generally net you? How successful is it? I'd like to know before I waste app points on something useless.