GeekyDad
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Believe it or not, I think that's Yuri Lowenthal doing a lot of those NPC voices.
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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
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Believe it or not, I think that's Yuri Lowenthal doing a lot of those NPC voices.
InsaneZero
Member
All of the boss battles that I've encountered so far were won with near no losses because my team had buffed defenses and was constantly debuffing the boss. My last boss battle with a level 70+ boss was won by my level 27 MC alone (with the rest of the team dead in the first three rounds) entirely because I had fully buffed the defense while fully debuffing his attack.
Personally, I would spend the first four turns exploiting the weakness, then the next four turns just applying buffs/debuffs. If a boss had no weakness to exploit, then buffs/debuffs would always go first.
DyslexicAlucard
Member
Anyone?
CornBurrito
Member
Well I don't know if a DEX build needs as much Luck. But physical skills have no way to take advantage of elemental weaknesses, meaning you -need- critical hits for smirking.
Dex has elemental bullets I believe. Dunno how important luck is there.
He's bananas. In a good way!
FallingEdge
Member
Okay then. I'll look more into this but thanks for the info.
Hecatonchires Custom
Member
Not really? I've been doing this for the majority of the game and I'm doing fine. You might have trouble setting up your final skillset since you'll be blindly fusing demons hoping to get say, Debilitate, when only 4-5 demons get it. You'll be fine.
Hecatonchires Custom
Member
They weren't rare for me, weird. You looking for them in the right spot?
noonespecial
Member
Sorry. We're too busy playing the game.
1) Dungeon crawling in a dark fantasy/futuristic world full of demons based on mythological creatures and deities gathered from most major religions, legends, and myths from all over the world.
2) You talk/bribe those demons to join you to become the other members of your party.
3) You can also fuse (combine) those demons together to form new and more powerful demons and you can pass along skills/spells those demons to craft your party as you would like. In fact, you pretty much will want (and need) to fuse demons to proceed.
4) The SMT/Persona games have very interesting resistance/weakness subsystems. There are several types of elements (fire, electricity, cold, etc.) that demons can not only be weak to, but sometimes they can have various forms of resistance to instead - some demons may have a "Dr" (drain) resistance so that they actually heal from attacks of that element type. Other demons may reflect back, some may nullify it, etc. This same subsystem is in effect for your main character too based on armor/spells cast. And you can fuse demons together where maybe one (or both) of the demons may have a passive skill that eleminates a weakness to an element entirely - so that reinforces the demon summoning/fusing system.
5) You can keep a group of demons "in your party" but that are not on your "front line" with your main character. Useful to have demons who are mainly healers there to heal between combats. Also useful to keep specific demons in an "unsummoned" state so that you can bring them into combat when you need them.
6) Finally, the combat. The combat is very deep and satisfying. It is turn based but it is so much more satisfying than all too commonly found "spam attack button" fights found in most turn based JRPGs. In SMT, if you do nothing but attack (unless you are well overleveled) then you WILL die. Its as simple as that. The combats in this game are brutal and you and your party can go down damn fast if you are not being careful. The enemies (and your party) hit hard, weaknesses really do count in this game (you get extra turns if you can hit an enemy's weak point), and party composition planning and tactics are essential. Oh and the enemy party and bosses can hit your weaknesses for extra turns as well.
noonespecial
Member
Okay I finally got the Orcus. WHAT. THE. FUCK. That's not Orcus. Wtf did they do to the design. Wtf? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
I am not at all close to getting to that point but is there any chance it is similar to Strange Journey
where the real "Orcus" only emerges after fighting and defeating one of the bosses?
FallingEdge
Member
dex and agi. level those up for me. okay then, no problem!
NeonZ
Member
Are you sure you're in the right area? It's very small and only has two spawn points. I wasted a lot of time thinking that he could appear in the larger area, but two minutes after I focused on the right location (which is named in the quest) I got to face it.
Edit: Regarding his design, his old one is now called "Horkos" and is a separate demon, for some reason.
InsaneElite
Member
Okay I finally got the Orcus. WHAT. THE. FUCK. That's not Orcus. Wtf did they do to the design. Wtf? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Kaneko redesigned him for Strange Journey and gave his original design to Horkos.
That was just a name pun in SJ! That design wasn't supposed to stick!
NeonZ
Member
Regarding the man who gives the swamp quest,
I think that he was already dead when he talked to the player. That was a ghost or demon. The person who replaces the man after the quest is done talks like he has been dead for a while.
noonespecial
Member
When I got my game almost a week ago there were three DLCs available. One cost either a dollar or two and the other two DLC were free. I don't know if they are still free or not but I don't think it was intended that they would be free for long.
Also, there is some kind of an update on the 3DS eShop for SMTIV that I just downloaded. Something about an update to the SMTIV streetpass feature? Not sure if anyone knew about that yet (I haven't been keeping up on this thread as it moves so fast).
InsaneElite
Member
Gotta squeeze as many demons as they can for IV!
GeekyDad
Member
I tried that quest last night for about the same amount of time and finally gave up. It reminded me of soul farming in Dawn of Sorrows. I'll get back to it later, but so far, it's my least favorite sidequest in the game.
ForteanMan
Member
The update is to give you 40 app points whenever you streetpass another 3DS player who is playing SMT IV and I think also EO IV or maybe Soul Hackers, can't remember the other one. I also believe it's once per 3DS or person, of course I could be completely wrong on both counts
CornBurrito
Member
I don't get why the game has to taunt me. My best magic users fuse off into awful physical demons with like 60 mp... what a waste.
There seem to be four endings actually. One per alignment, and the lazy bastard ending I just got
You meet the White and choose to turn the world to nothing.. and then it does. Black hole swallows everything up. Credits.
The good thing is that you can reload the save right before this choice, and try to get one of the better(?) endings.
Elaugaufein
Member
Welp. Did the DLC Area Quests for the Demon Unlocks. Avoiding breaking the game is pretty easy for XP / App point ones as its easy to just farm the items the demon salesman wants (if you do XP early you can't really get Money/App points/Heavy Grimoires because the Mitama are too powerful and in the App Point one only the common Mitama in the area drop App Cards).
The macca one on the other hand is crazy game breaking, in the course of getting the items the demon salesman wanted I got 95 000 Macca worth of other items at a point in the game where I had ~5 k in the bank and had made ~9 k total in the entire game.
The macca one on the other hand is crazy game breaking, in the course of getting the items the demon salesman wanted I got 95 000 Macca worth of other items at a point in the game where I had ~5 k in the bank and had made ~9 k total in the entire game.
Do we have a confirmed release date for this in the EU yet?
Nintendo UK have confirmed that it's going to be playable at the Hyper Japan event in London next weekend, so it must be coming soonish.
Wikipedia has a release date of September 19th, no idea where they got that from (and Amazon are still saying that Soul Hackers is coming on September 13th, what a clusterfuck of release schedules if both these dates were true!)
Nintendo UK have confirmed that it's going to be playable at the Hyper Japan event in London next weekend, so it must be coming soonish.
Wikipedia has a release date of September 19th, no idea where they got that from (and Amazon are still saying that Soul Hackers is coming on September 13th, what a clusterfuck of release schedules if both these dates were true!)
Elaugaufein
Member
The release date for SMT IV on Wikipedia is from EBGames Australia so take it with a grain of salt.
Soul Hackers at least has a Fall 2013 official announcement from NISA.
Having a real hard time deciding to play this or Soul Hackers first...both seem pretty solid.
Also lots of DLC talk sadly. Is it purely shortcut stuff? Faster access to XP/Money/etc?
Also what does Streetpass provide for these games? Never in my entire ownership of my 3DS have I had a street pass...though my system never leaves the nightstand. What would I be missing out on?
Also lots of DLC talk sadly. Is it purely shortcut stuff? Faster access to XP/Money/etc?
Also what does Streetpass provide for these games? Never in my entire ownership of my 3DS have I had a street pass...though my system never leaves the nightstand. What would I be missing out on?
As long as she summons Jack Frost for one of her attacks, I'm on board.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Make sure you bring more macca next time!
CornBurrito
Member
Black Frost > Jack Frost > Pyro Jack
As unlikely as a brand new character would be, I could totally see a Jack Frost assist trophy at least. SMT x FE will probably be out by then!
I wonder if Sakurai has played SMT. The SMT franchise has been with Nintendo for a long ass time, I'd rather see someone like Jack Frost than Pac-Man in Smash IV.
Plus they could also have a character there to promote FE x SMT.
Imagine a Tokyo Stage for the 3DS version of Smash. Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng.
Plus they could also have a character there to promote FE x SMT.
Imagine a Tokyo Stage for the 3DS version of Smash. Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng.
I think someone may have answered this in the early days of the thread, but I wanted to (re)confirm:
Buff/Debuffs do stack, correct? I can cast Rakunda multiple times on my party and it's supposed to stack the effect, right?
I ask, because a couple of Demon Domain battles that I fought, it wasn't clear to me if that was the case; the Demon's in question seemed to be damaging me as hard as ever.
Part of (my) problem is that I don't do nearly enough fusing; I tend to hold onto the same demons for quite awhile. It also bothers me that I can fuse higher level Demons, with lower MP than the Demons I'm fusing them with - which often makes transferring the various buff/debuff spells to a newly minted fusion feel like a waste, since I would only be able to cast them once or twice with the given MP.
I am loving this game, worts and all; Sometimes I do have to resort to the included guide, but only to figure out where to go next. In one instance, I would have had no idea that in order to advance the main story, I had to complete a challenge quest. That seems odd, but whatever.
Buff/Debuffs do stack, correct? I can cast Rakunda multiple times on my party and it's supposed to stack the effect, right?
I ask, because a couple of Demon Domain battles that I fought, it wasn't clear to me if that was the case; the Demon's in question seemed to be damaging me as hard as ever.
Part of (my) problem is that I don't do nearly enough fusing; I tend to hold onto the same demons for quite awhile. It also bothers me that I can fuse higher level Demons, with lower MP than the Demons I'm fusing them with - which often makes transferring the various buff/debuff spells to a newly minted fusion feel like a waste, since I would only be able to cast them once or twice with the given MP.
I am loving this game, worts and all; Sometimes I do have to resort to the included guide, but only to figure out where to go next. In one instance, I would have had no idea that in order to advance the main story, I had to complete a challenge quest. That seems odd, but whatever.
bishopcruz
Member
Loving the game so far but am stuck on a challenge quest.
In Ueno
In Ueno
where the hell do I find Kin-ki to get the LED light? I know I must be missing something obvious, because the guide is NOT helping.
Press X in battle to see the "effects" of buffs/debuffs.
They do stack, yes.
InsaneElite
Member
Not sure how credible the rumor is that Sakurai had Soul Hackers on him when Streetpassed at E3.
Kaisersalsek
Member
This is gonna be playable at hyper japan?! That just made my day! Can't wait for this to come to the uk!
toadsworth
Banned
Ueno Central Way, examine one of the doors and burroughs will warn you that there is a powerful demon ahead, then you have to battle through the domain.
NeonZ
Member
Yes, they do stack, thrice. You can press X and see how many multipliers are currently applied to each character on the field. Note that if you swap out a demon and replace them with another one the replacement won't carry the bonuses. When no one can receive a further buffs, the spell will be grayed out.
Well, if you talk with the minor npcs you meet, it's generally pretty obvious when a challenge quest is actually part of the required story. At least, up to the point I've played.
Wat.
So I'd assume he played SMTIV, loved it, and wanted more so decided to play SH.
SMT in SSBIV confirmed.
Edit: lol, just remembered there's a Masahiro Sakurai named character in Soul Hackers.