It should be
Ueno -> Ameyoko Way (SE Exit of Ueno) -> Central Way -> Relic spawn on the eastern wall will actually be a Demon's domain that leads to him
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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
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Can somebody help me out? I´ve been running in circles early in the story in Tokyo for two hours.
I love the game so much, but that map is driving me nuts.
I met that friendly girl (can´t remember her name) that told me to go to a book store in Ikebukuro, but I can´t figure out where to go next. I wandered back and forth between the "ghost horse" bridge and the other river bridge with the guy that demands 500 bucks, I also tried that subway tunnel that says it leads to Ikebukuro, but I always end up in a dead end next to a big wall with a small hole in it and some broken highways. I assume it must be close by, but I believe I have to get it from some other direction...
I love the game so much, but that map is driving me nuts.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Need some help, Ginza story spoilers:
I'm in the quest in the Temple for the Ring of Gaea where I need to protect the candle to the end. I would prefer to complete this but my candle has little HP and I can't beat Taraka before it runs out of HP. Is there any sort of big penalty for failing the quest? Will it effect my alignment pretty seriously?
Chrono Helix
Member
Yeah,
the visual would lead you to think it caps at 200, but it didn't stop me from putting more, so I decided to see how high I could take it. None of my demons can compare to the damage Flynn can put out.
I had the same problem, but you need to stay in Shinjuku and go underground first. Take care of the quests there. I don't know when you go to Ikebukuro, since I'm still in Shinjuku though.
I was stuck there too for hours lol
IIRC, you need to go to an area close to Shinjuku [close to the poisonous water]and take a subway train there. That will take you to Ikebukuro.
NeonZ
Member
Does anyone know where is the Shinjuku Golden Gai? There's a challenge mission where you're supposed to take pictures of a bar there, but I've walked around Shinjuku, and that name never seemed to pop up as the area name of any point.
You need to finish a couple of missions in Shinjuku before progressing. There's a challenge quest about killing corpses in Shinjuku which is actually part of the main game progress.
You need to finish a couple of missions in Shinjuku before progressing. There's a challenge quest about killing corpses in Shinjuku which is actually part of the main game progress.
Hard to say exactly since I don't know your main quest progress but
Hikaru is seen near Shinjuku. All you'll find in Ikebukuro now is the wall of fire you cannot pass. Your goal is to get to Shinjuku and complete some quests to progress the plot. If you missed it, there's an entire city (like Ueno) at Shinjuku's South Entrance
It's part of the Shinjuku East Entrance area where the
Exterminate the Corpses quest was. Edit: In particular, the northeast area there, if I recall
Go out the exit closest to the bar, north 1 area, east 1 area, it's a random room in the top right sector of the screen. I couldn't find it for 2 days either.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
IIRC You need to do a challenge quest that's available from one of the NPCs in Shinjuku's underground region. I think you need to talk to the guy all the way to the west underground to get it.
InsaneElite
Member
PlanetSmasher
Banned
Using Concentrate + Megido just OBLITERATED the Ueno Tournament Prelims.
I was actually laughing maniacally the entire time because of how easy the fights were with that pair of spells.
Sadly, the tournament pushed me up a few points into Law territory, so I'm going to have to double back quite a bit to make up for it. :[
I was actually laughing maniacally the entire time because of how easy the fights were with that pair of spells.
Sadly, the tournament pushed me up a few points into Law territory, so I'm going to have to double back quite a bit to make up for it. :[
Try fusing Makami [Avatar type, lv 32 I think?] he knows Teterakarn, helped me get past the blights, lol
I have a similar skill set too, though I can't wait to get Agidyne:
Bufula +8
Zanma +8
Agilao +8
Zionga +2
Mediarama +1
Energy Drain +1
Concentrate +3
Rakunda +1
Weirdly been having trouble finding food zio-based demons, that's why my Zionga is only +2
Also I tend to forget to use Mediarama in battles, I blame the turn order XDAlso, spoilers, re: post Kagome Tower -
Where do I go now? I don't know how to get to Shibuya and it's bothering me running around lost ._.; Help?
Thanks for the info - just three times, that may be similar to Nocturne, I believe.
I'll have to try and remember the specific quest when I get home, but I'm pretty sure completing the challenge quest was unexpected for me, especially since I had resolved not to do any sidequests until I had advanced further into the main story. For reference, I'm at 51hrs of playtime, only at level 25, and I'm just now making it to Shinjuku (or it might be Shibuya). Obviously, I must have fell asleep with the game running at some point (yeah, that's it).
Sometimes the info from the NPCs is crystal clear, other time less so, but you're probably right - in one case early on, I had a flash and remembered to go back and talk to the guy who runs the overpriced ferry for crossing the river. Not keeping track as I should is time consuming
Yeah, I'm only 28 right now, so that'll have to wait. I'm hoping to get as much Sukunda and Sukukaja off as possible at the beginning, so I'm just hoping they decide to throw me a bone and let me get the first attack one of these attempts. After that I shouldn't have too much of an issue.
Although, apparently Dantalion is also Lv 32 and has both Tetrakarn and Makarakarn. Might have to get him when he's available.
bishopcruz
Member
PlanetSmasher
Banned
Reloaded my save so I could get some chaos points out of the tournament and now I'm dying every time again.
I kind of fucking hate the battle system in this game sometimes. Letting the enemies ALWAYS go first in the tournament is just unbelievably goddamn stupid. No matter how strong you are, if they pull off a good attack they can wipe your entire party and you can't do a thing to stop it, because Atlus thought getting rid of Endurance was a good idea.
I kind of fucking hate the battle system in this game sometimes. Letting the enemies ALWAYS go first in the tournament is just unbelievably goddamn stupid. No matter how strong you are, if they pull off a good attack they can wipe your entire party and you can't do a thing to stop it, because Atlus thought getting rid of Endurance was a good idea.
Ares is lv 31, and it's a regular fusion. You've got a ways.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
NeonZ
Member
I mostly really like the lack of endurance here. About 90% of the time, this is my favorite turn based battle system. It's kind of cool to stumble upon a lvl 75 boss with a lvl21 party... and still win.
On the other hand, there's the other 10%. They really should have considered this limitation better while designing encounters. Making some boss battles randomly start with surprise attacks for the bosses can result in basically unwinnable situations due to the lack of endurance. And the random factor just shows how they weren't even worried about balancing them.
There really shouldn't be forced surprise attacks in this game due to how it works - the only surprise attacks should happen due to the player' own fault on the field - or maybe dialogue choices, not forced ones where sometimes you have to hope for a mistake from the AI. At the very least, if they wanted some first attack advantages for the AI at times, it should be scripted in such a way that they couldn't just wipe out the player there.
You can't fuse Ares early on. You need to be higher level, in spite of unlocking him so early. Same goes to most early bosses. You get all these messages about unlocking them, but will need to get to around lvl 20 to start getting some.
PlanetSmasher
Banned
Exactly. I had to reload 14 times before I managed to get through the tournament without the enemy wiping my party on the first turn. It's not fun, and it honestly makes me not want to play the game anymore when it happens. I'm more than overleveled for the fights, but it's still happening over and over again.
They really should've made it so any battle you consent to gives you the option to act right off the bat. Not necessarily a first strike bonus, but just letting you react as soon as battle starts instead of instant murder.
Sorry for the late reply, but thanks.
Also, when is the new DLC coming?
CornBurrito
Member
I've been searching for a good two hours and still cannot find the Shinjuku terminal. Is it in the same building as the guy who goes "BRING MORE MACCA NEXT TIME" and the bar with a heal option that costs 100?
QuiteWhittle
Member
Yeah there should be a gate and a button to open it with. The terminal is in there.
It's behind the metal fence in the middle of the hallway. Alternatively, you can go upstairs and into the back of the area to find an elevator to take you down, but you'll still need to open the fence from the "town" side.
Shinjuku terminal? Heh. Try this: You know where you first came into the underground? Right across from there is a gated passage. Open the gate, go right. Terminal's right there.
Another option is to go outside, to the main entrance. Past the turnstiles is an elevator that goes to the same area, except you have to open the gate (from the other side) to access the main area.
Another option is to go outside, to the main entrance. Past the turnstiles is an elevator that goes to the same area, except you have to open the gate (from the other side) to access the main area.
CornBurrito
Member
Wow that's so simple. How the fuck did I miss that?
ForteanMan
Member
So did I end up on the "bad" ending?
I ask because
If the answer is yes, it's not too big a deal. I'll just start a new game + and try for neutral route this time.
I ask because
after defeating King Kenji, I was told by the Whites that I was the true Messiah and that only by returning the world to nothingness could Humanity be free of God's Will. If I choose not to return the world to nothingness, my only two other options are to maintain the Status Quo (Law) or whatever the hell Chaos equates to
If the answer is yes, it's not too big a deal. I'll just start a new game + and try for neutral route this time.
QuiteWhittle
Member
Yep bad end.
ForteanMan
Member
I went with the nothingness just to see, I haven't technically saved since doing that so I could always restart and choose one of the other options.
QuiteWhittle
Member
Yeah, that's the "bad" ending. If you were trying for the neutral ending, you had to choose the law or chaos option. The White Men confirm your alignment afterwards.
InsaneElite
Member
If you're aiming for Neutral, you've hopefully balanced your choices along the way. The easiest way being to generally swing to one side, then choose the opposite alignment for Lilith. Keep in mind refusing the White ending is an automatic +5 (Law) to your alignment rating. Maintaining the status quo is +10 and upending order is -10, but in reality it's either +15 or -5. Saying you don't know just returns you to the first question.
ForteanMan
Member
Interesting, I could conceivably reload and still go neutral? Or I guess it would depend on what my alignment was. Ah well, I guess I'll reload the save and see what happens.
Edit:
I'll take that into consideration, honestly I'm not too sure which way I was leaning alignment-wise prior to this fight. I guess I'll find out after work.
That really depends. Each of the alignment routes has New Game+ only demons, so you're going to be playing the game four times if you want all of them anyway. The only reason I'd argue against it is that you're going to be playing the opening stages over again, and they're nowhere near as interesting as the alignment content.
InsaneElite: Is that so? Damn everything, THAT'S why I got locked to Law.
The preserve the status quo and destroy the status quo options are the final alignment choices. They each give ten points to their respective alignment and whatever your alignment is after choosing determines your route. So if you choose destroy the status quo with a slight law bias you'll get the neutral path and vice versa.
ForteanMan
Member
Thanks a lot everyone. I think I'll take a chance and see what happens by reloading my save prior to the choice.
Huh.. That was unexpected. Early Shinjuku area spoilers:
I was shitting bricks when I happened to stumble on to Erikong (level 75 wtf), and he wiped out everyone with a single multi-target ziodyne. ... Except Raiju. I put the game on auto battle, not expecting to win, and lo and behold, the boss has nothing besides his normal attack that can down Raiju. And after soloing a level 75 boss, he still gets shit exp.
InsaneElite
Member
The music stays consistently great all the way throughout the game once you get to Tokyo, in my opinion. This is going to end up my favorite SMT OST at this rate.
You can move the camera with the shoulder buttons. Also check the lower screen map.