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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
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Reading this thread almost had me buying a new 3DS just to play this game. I left my system at home while I am spending the summer working in another city. Big mistake. Will snag next month when I return, but damn...game sounds incredible.
Just read that RPGamer review. I didn't know that SPOILER
. I just beat XW in Ikebukuro and I still haven't come across that point, so it's a bit of a spoiler I guess.
Some of his gripes are understandable, but things like the music? I think it's great.
time moved faster in Mikado than in Tokyo
Some of his gripes are understandable, but things like the music? I think it's great.
Crash55118
Member
I'm in Tokyo, so not too far in, but I really love how narrative has been handled so far.
In fact I love just about everything. Truly a great RPG.
In fact I love just about everything. Truly a great RPG.
CornBurrito
Member
Hmm, so I may be wrong, but I get the feeling the incredibly vague location descriptions are intentional. I say this because NPCs in the terminal areas will often say "oh you're looking for X? Go west, then west, then north."
I think it is the game's way of forcing you to talk to NPCs and get some story details.
I think it is the game's way of forcing you to talk to NPCs and get some story details.
You can definitely enter
Infernal Shibuya
Infernal Shinjuku
NeonZ
Member
They only appear during a challenge quest for specific preset events - like the battle against
Dullahan.
Incendiary
Banned
That's the thing I love about SMT. In pretty much every other RPG, I'm conservative with spells and MP and save them for the boss fights. In SMT, though, it's pretty much a necessity to use your full arsenal against every enemy unless you want to accidentally fuck yourself.
Yeah i've "entered" it, but
there's demonoid that's blocking my path into the district
drtomoe123
Member
Guys, I feel so stupid right now. I'm on neutral and I just finished the first final dungeon. Where do I go to start the second one?
QuiteWhittle
Member
I just can't see how SMTIV's characters are any weaker than Nocturne's and Strange Journey's.
Yeah, I just ran into that same problem in Ikebukuro, slightly disappointing.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I disagree with the reviewer on that too haha. The review itself is fine. It's when he said that people who gave high scores didn't play the game enough to dislike it, and the one dude who said that this is the Dragon Age II of SMT (not in the review itself, it's a discussion over there)...Then I got slightly embittered haha.
Someone actually said that? I mean, I'm no expert on SMT (I've only played the Persona series, and a bit of Soul Hackers on 3DS) but DAII was a horrible, rushed mess that I couldn't even bring myself to finish despite beating DA:O multiple times on two systems (360 + PC).
SMT IV by comparison feels huge. I'm nearly 40 hours in, and already looking forward to a second run through.
I'd definitely prioritize more skill slots for your MC, followed by your demons.
InsaneZero
Member
This is probably the only game where I would actually use those "heal everything" items regularly. Partially because the game demands it, and partially because those incenses are practically handed out like candy.
The way it should be. Use your stuff!
Chrono Helix
Member
There's also the fact that powerful items have low item caps. I was hoarding items and frequently being informed that I couldn't carry any more chakra drops and pots.
I finally made the decision to just sell them down to about half their cap. Wasn't like I was ever going to use them anyway.Plus, I need the money for all my fusing.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
I just visited [mid-game location spoiler]
I hope it's easier to survive and correct this if necessary if before the lock. How far away is that? I feel like I'm a hair away from Chaos.
Shene Duque (hoy crap btw) and now I'm given a choice. I talked to the cynical man at Shibuya before coming here and he told me I'm "a hard man to get a read on." Which I'm assuming means that I'm (hopefully) neutral. Now I'm scared of screwing that with what I'm about to pick.
I hope it's easier to survive and correct this if necessary if before the lock. How far away is that? I feel like I'm a hair away from Chaos.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
I can't believe I took this long to get the Party MP Recovery app, it's so good.
Don't you mean after every battle and before going through any doors?
More like save after every step you take.
Clockwork5
Member
IMO: Demon skill slots > MC skill slots > demon inventory
I do think that these are 3 really important apps to max out and I wouldnt let any of them get too far behind.
CornBurrito
Member
Roppongi Mr. Tayama Spoilers:
What's the point of giving me a Refuse option for his task? Is there another way to go about advancing the plot and saving the hostage?
I'm pretty sure that concerns alignment.
Speaking about alignment, when does the point of no return for routes occur? And how do I check my alignment from where I am at this point in the game?
I'm currently in a Tokyo populated by demonoids and I'm assisting demonoid Akira
Choosing either
Jonathan's
Walter's
Jonathan's route
Walter's
Once you finish the area you're in, the 'lock' happens. I don't think there's a way to check at the point you're in.
CornBurrito
Member
Which option is what? And in that case can I just keep selecting refuse to build up chaos/law points? Or does it only award points once?
If you accept the quest it's Law, if you don't, it's Chaos.
You get forced to do it anyway so it doesn't matter what you choose. And no, you can't just go talk to NPCs to farm route points by refusing them. Points are given only in certain sidequests and dialogue choices in cutscenes.
Did I just get locked into the Neutral Path? (Late Game Spoilers)
Okay, so I choose to not return the world to nothingness then picked the option to destroy the status quo. The white told me something like I was too late, because I wished to destroy yet preserve as well and that they no longer had any use for me. So now, I'm in this strange area talking to Stephen.
Yes.
Trying to get the Neutral path. I know it's complicated, so I'm not really asking if I'll get it (as I've made choices that would take too long to get into). But basically..
I sided with Walter during the split (because of some decisions I made). Trying to balance it back to Neutral. I'm at the part where I have to push the button to open the Demon rift. Is that the same thing as "Destroy the Status Quo" and "Preserve the Status Quo"? Or does that part come later in the game. Because of what I've done, I needed to side with Walter, then Preserve the Status Quo. So do I press the button here?
QuiteWhittle
Member
Yes.
Sseklebeast
Member
Late game demon spoiler> Can anyone tell me where to find
?
Mara
CornBurrito
Member
How do I get Frost Ace?
Tyrant Rave
Banned
No, spawn rates are randomized with some demons appearing more often than others. I honestly only ran into her once or twice around the world map and never around any of the nearby dungeons.
I figured as much. Just wanted to make sure. Was sweating there for a sec.
CornBurrito
Member
Woo I happened to have those demons on hand. Can't wait to fuse King Frost.
GeekyDad
Member
Question (late-game, post-bad-ending spoilers):
Is this the juncture where you lock into a specific alignment route? I just talked to Stephen, and he said I resisted all (God's law, the temptation of demons, and despair of the White). He feels I "may be the one" to revive the goddess of Tokyo.
It's still quite a few hours away and you'll have other choices to make. I went with Walter, but still ended up full neutral by the final choice. NOTE (spoilers for late game alignment stuff but IMPORTANT if you want the Neutral route)
You do NOT want to be Neutral when you make the final decision. If you are, you are completely locked out of the Neutral path. You want to be slightly Law or slightly Chaos. The final decision gives you quite a big bump towards Chaos or Law, so you want to be at a point where you can bump yourself into Neutral instead of too much one way or the other. Being Neutral already will make it so that you can choose either Law OR Chaos, but you cannot stay Neutral.