QuiteWhittle
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The White Men's final question was the alignment lock. You're now locked onto the neutral path.
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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
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Yes, you're locked into Neutral, by the way.
CornBurrito
Member
Roponji spoilers:
Where the fuck do I go to get to where the Ring of Gaea is?
So about the New Game+ exclusive demons.
If I do both Law and Chaos, and go for a Neutral path later on, will I have access to every demon possible then?
If I do both Law and Chaos, and go for a Neutral path later on, will I have access to every demon possible then?
Go North of Shibuya, there are like 2 places, go to the one higher up.
GeekyDad
Member
Wow...awesome. Thanks. I wasn't really even trying to balance the alignments throughout the game. I just answered the questions as best I could based on my own morality and the options they afford you.
Tokyo Station, near Kasumigaseki terminal.
QuiteWhittle
Member
CornBurrito
Member
I've never been to Kasumigaseki.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Go to Kasumigaseki and on the world map just go northeast a little and you'll reach Tokyo Station. Go through there.
You sure? It's the
military base that had the Demonicas.
Turn order is decided through the party member's Agility stat.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
It's based on Agi. Pump them points in there.
You sure? It's a place you have to go fairly early in the game. Where you find
the demonica armor.
CornBurrito
Member
OHHHHHHHHH that's Kasumegasaki.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I'm way farther then the guy you are replying to...
THERE WAS A TERMINAL THERE?!?! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Ah, thought so. I'm going with Walter at moment, but was thinking of making Law choices every chance I got. But now I'm reconsidering that since I'll get quite the bump later on.
Thanks!
How could you miss it!? It's not a complicated area! It's just to the right of the elevator.
Yes, IIRC
you come across a key in the room with the Demonicas that you can use to unlock all the doors in the lobby of the military base. The terminal is, of course, guarded by the usual terminal guardian and a happy horde to greet you!
I had forgotten about that. Makes sense that someone wouldn't check it (though I check everything multiple times just in case).
BuckRobotron
Member
I fused her a couple times early on just to improve her in the compendium. I like having her on the team...cheeky as she is.
Anyway, just brought in the
Black Samurai
Awesome, thanks. I was winging it because I've done almost every challenge quest I've come across so far.
I honestly thought activating terminals were required in the game, but nope! It's only to your own personal benefit.
LiquidMamba
Member
Man, first strike reinforcements just tear me apart. Was that possible in 2 and 3? If it was, it didn't happen this often.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Yes, you have to choose one of those two. It won't fix your alignment permanently though.
CornBurrito
Member
Oh... this sucks. My Frost Ace is actually pretty damn good.
But the King Frost he can fuse off into sucks ass. 88 MP, no MP recovery skills, and I don't even have a null or resist fire to put on him. Should I just not bother?
But the King Frost he can fuse off into sucks ass. 88 MP, no MP recovery skills, and I don't even have a null or resist fire to put on him. Should I just not bother?
QuiteWhittle
Member
'Cause he's American.
If your Frost Ace is acting as your magic nuke then there's really no point in upgrading to a Frost Ace despite the higher level.
Looks like i'm locked into the law path
(Major law path spoilers)
I'm going for the neutral path next !_!
(Major law path spoilers)
Jonathan 
You were willing to die for your dream, and for that I salute you. Seriously, accepting death like that must have been insanely difficult. Even though I have a kickass angel as a partner, I seriously miss Jonathan. The law path itself is ok so far... fuck demons, yada yada I get it, but the senseless killing of non believers pisses me off. "I had my son executed for being insubordinate" fuck that noise. If the game wants me to take the law path seriously it needs to knock it off with that crap. I hope the ending isn't a complete downer. I've still got a ton of challenge quests to complete, but I think i've reached the final stretch of the game.
You were willing to die for your dream, and for that I salute you. Seriously, accepting death like that must have been insanely difficult. Even though I have a kickass angel as a partner, I seriously miss Jonathan. The law path itself is ok so far... fuck demons, yada yada I get it, but the senseless killing of non believers pisses me off. "I had my son executed for being insubordinate" fuck that noise. If the game wants me to take the law path seriously it needs to knock it off with that crap. I hope the ending isn't a complete downer. I've still got a ton of challenge quests to complete, but I think i've reached the final stretch of the game.
I'm going for the neutral path next !_!
CornBurrito
Member
Yes but I heard King Frost has a really worthwhile skill that can be unlocked. And I don't -need- Frost Ace on my team. He's good, but noting extremely special.
It depends on the build you're going for right now. It learns Concentrate, which I'm assuming, is the skill everyone is talking about. If you have a physical build I'd skip out on that since some recruitable demons later on come with that ability for fusion purposes. If you're going for a magical build I'd definitely go for it.
CornBurrito
Member
Hmm I do have a magic build. But I also play secondary/primary healer right now. and use both Dekunda and Dekaja. Still worth going for?
Thanks a lot!
Okay so I'm stuck again. I'm in Ueno, just crossed the bridge. Where do I go? Quest says to still
find the Counter-Demon Force base
drtomoe123
Member
Just finished the neutral path at around
.
There's so much to say about this game. I'd really like to echo a lot of Aeana's comments--this game feels like the perfect modern SMT. It manages to include elements that emphasize the best of traditional SMT gameplay while incorporating enough modern enhancements that really make the game more accessible without sacrificing any difficulty for players who have been with the series in the past. Including things like the optional DLC challenge quests are a great way to help out players who aren't used to the way that SMT handles things, because, although it does provide a super easy way for gaining levels, it still requires you to demonstrate a basic understanding of Press Turn.
I will admit that the last half of the game is a joke if you're using a magic build (Concentrate+Megidola takes out practically every mob in the game in one move while 2 full turns takes out most bosses), but the game was still super fun and, depending on your demon set-up, some bosses could still demolish you if they exploited a weakness.
I still don't know if I can pick between this and Nocturne, but I really, really enjoyed this game.
40:25
There's so much to say about this game. I'd really like to echo a lot of Aeana's comments--this game feels like the perfect modern SMT. It manages to include elements that emphasize the best of traditional SMT gameplay while incorporating enough modern enhancements that really make the game more accessible without sacrificing any difficulty for players who have been with the series in the past. Including things like the optional DLC challenge quests are a great way to help out players who aren't used to the way that SMT handles things, because, although it does provide a super easy way for gaining levels, it still requires you to demonstrate a basic understanding of Press Turn.
I will admit that the last half of the game is a joke if you're using a magic build (Concentrate+Megidola takes out practically every mob in the game in one move while 2 full turns takes out most bosses), but the game was still super fun and, depending on your demon set-up, some bosses could still demolish you if they exploited a weakness.
I still don't know if I can pick between this and Nocturne, but I really, really enjoyed this game.
NeonZ
Member
Thor was the most prominent god of norse mythology, even if not the leader of the pantheon. So, he often ends up as the highest level Norse god in many SMT games. There are exceptions though (like his ridiculously low levels in the Devil Survivor series)
Concentrate pretty much serves you the entire game.
I have a physical build right now and any of my skills and Charge and it obliterates every boss I've come across. I'd say definitely. The earlier you can get it the better if you want to max your potential early on. You're also very close to getting access to -dyne skills, yes!
End game Law path side-quest spoilers:
Mastema just wrecked my entire party with Megioloan and only my Garuda survived. Instead of restarting I said "Fuck it, I'll go down swinging!" After a few turns I notice he's just either using Attack, Deadly Wind, or a Sick or Panic ailment attack. My Garuda inherently nulls Wind and he inherited a mutated Null Phys. He also has Amrita, War Cry, and Energy Drain. After a few turns of Smirk attacking after some debuffs Garuda single-handedly defeats Mastema. Feels good.
I don't think level and strength correlate in the SMTverse. There are tons of high level demons that don't seem / aren't that strong in reality, i'd say it's a gameplay thing. (Ogre is level 45 in this game, lmao).
And besides, Odin is always equipped with a signature Thunder spell and usually ends up being better than Thor, despite the lower level.
Go southwest after crossing the bridge and you should come across that location.
Black Samurai spoilers, do not highlight if you have yet to know her identity:
I was just cruising through the megaten wiki, I had no idea that she was a reference to the first SMT1! I'm currently going to Camp Ichigaya to apparently open the gate to the "Expanse". Without spoiling anything past this point, is there other direct references to SMT1 like this?
CornBurrito
Member
But where would I have room for it? Or should I give up coverage of every element?
You're a lifesaver, thanks a ton.
Couldn't put my finger on where I'd heard Walter's voice before, looked it up, and it's Chrom from Fire Emblem: Awakening!
How many skill slots do you have? If you can't cover an element because of the lack of slots you can always use an elemental bullet to cover yourself up.
CornBurrito
Member
I have every slot unlocked.
My skills are:
Bufula, Zanma, Ziodyne, Agilao
Mediarama
Dekunda, Dekaja
Energy Drain