I don't like excessively hard games... should I get this? Is it normal on easy mode?
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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
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Matt Attack
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Just watched all of this, it looks fantastic. Probably wasn't a good idea, considering it's going to make the wait that much harder. I'm really loving Navarre's voice, it sounds incredibly silly in the best possible way.
There's like 36 bucks worth of DLC for the Japanese version. Mix of costume themed armor sets, fast exp/ap/macca grinding quests, and a bunch of "challenge quests" which are basically a few lines of dialogue and a boss battle, allowing you to fuse an exclusive demon after that.
TurnipFritters
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Yes. The exp, cash and ap come in the form of items, so you can choose to not use them. The palette swaps tend to have really convenient skill sets so they aren't totally worthless.
4 or 5 days, depends how close you live to the distribution center they ship from.
Excellent. This will sate my hunger for a while.
There's still more stuff coming though right?
I've watched a few video impressions claiming otherwise. Some say the game is so easy to the point where grinding isn't required. I don't like games of this genre to be super hard either. So the less grinding the better, though I'm sure there will be some grinding involved. The game does have a normal/easy mode. So there's that.
darkjedi187
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I caved and reserved this bad boy. Played a bit of Strange Journey, but I still haven't finished P4Golden. I remember playing Noctourne a bit back on the PS2. Hopefully I will actually follow through and finish this.
GeekyDad
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Just based on watching gameplay and my experience with the series, I think (like Demon's Souls) the difficulty is being blown a little out of proportion. I think the major differences people face with this game over a lot of other turn-based RPGs is that they will have to incorporate a modicum of thinking, as opposed to simply pressing the A button continuously to grind. You can always Gamefly it first.
It's definitely the dude who does the voices of Akihiko (P3) and Gara (Naruto).
Yeah I agree so much.
It's amazes me how people miss things that are written right on the screen and then complain about difficulty.
This is my first Shin Megami Tensei game as well. I spent well over 120 hours with P4. So I figured this would be right down my ally.
SpaceBridge
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My first critiscm two hours in: I wish they had use Kanekos demon portraits for the old demons.
You have reached a bond that can never be broken!
Thickstone
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The atmosphere in this walkthrough video posted on the last page iirc is really top-notch.
I couldn't care less for the difficulty, the demons, the negotiation and fusing aspects...for me, it's really about the dark tone and atmosphere. I wish there would be more jRPGs like this without this medieval-lighthearted anime stuff.
Well, I hope that my copy arrives soon (Europe, ordered via VGP). Need this in my veins.
I couldn't care less for the difficulty, the demons, the negotiation and fusing aspects...for me, it's really about the dark tone and atmosphere. I wish there would be more jRPGs like this without this medieval-lighthearted anime stuff.
Well, I hope that my copy arrives soon (Europe, ordered via VGP). Need this in my veins.
Yeah, it really comes down to what people perceive as "hard". It definitely feels easier to die in this one, at least in the beginning, but with Charon and the ability to save anywhere it almost doesn't really matter. For reference though, I'm only 3 hours in and I've been wiped out more times than my entire Nocturne playthrough.
SpaceBridge
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Finished the training portion, that was brutal, died a lot. Loving it.
I think this still might not have been mentioned in this thread but to even have to go to Charon, all your active party members have to die. In Nocturne if the MC was dead, it was game over, without any form of continue. So as long as you have a balanced team you should survive pretty easily.
Atlus announced that the latest DLC was the last one.
As far as I know, you can only boost your HP with levels and equipment.
Dx increases phys/gun skill damage more than St does. (St is still the only stat affecting the basic sword attack)
NeonZ
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Just lore. There are some new scenes before and after the battles in the extra boss/demon DLCs that give some new information about the story, but they don't really change the endings or anything like that.
Apparently not. The last demon DLC was said to be the final one and it also completes a set of demon DLC.
I dunno. It could be done. This week's DLC said it was the "final quest" and "the hardest boss fight ever" etc.
I've been worried about whether this actually would manage to drag me away from AC but reading these impressions, I'm feeling increasingly confident it will. Just very excited to get my hands on it in a day or two. @_@
Doesn't hurt that approx 200 hours in I'm starting to back off AC a bit as well. Not playing for more than an hour a day recently.
Doesn't hurt that approx 200 hours in I'm starting to back off AC a bit as well. Not playing for more than an hour a day recently.
http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2013/05/23/66742.html
DLC Set 1:
- Samurai Coat DLC (200yen)
- Hairstyle Pack (Free)
- Bonus Exp Quest (250yen)
http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2013/05/30/66970.html
DLC Set 2:
- School Uniform DLC (200yen)
- Bonus Macca Quest (350yen)
- Bonus App Points Quest (350yen)
http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2013/06/06/67194.html
DLC Set 3:
- Asmodeus Equipment DLC (200yen)
- Seraph Quest Part 1 DLC (250yen)
http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2013/06/14/67494.html
DLC Set 4:
- Koga Saburo Equipment DLC (200yen)
- Seraph Quest Part 2 DLC (350yen)
http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2013/06/20/67707.html
DLC Set 5:
- "Ancient of Days" Quest DLC (350yen)
http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2013/07/04/68152.html
DLC Set 6:
- "The Eternal Youth" Quest DLC (350yen)
http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2013/07/11/68374.html
DLC Set 7:
- Glittering Light Equipment DLC (200yen
- "The Future of Tokyo" Quest DLC (400yen)
Deified Data
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I've heard it's the easiest SMT yet. If you beat Strange Journey, IV should be no problem.
It'd be hard to be easier than SMT1 and 2.
Not having played SMT4 yet, I don't have any input on that, but I have a suspicion that people who started with SMT3 and got destroyed by Matador due to their inexperience are now using that as a measuring stick despite having quite a bit more experience with the systems since that game.
I really can't stand DLC schemes like this. I wonder what will happen when the Index thing sorts itself out.
calc84maniac
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...Just sayin'.
That's not a very convincing cosplay.
mugurumakensei
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Matador wasn't really a problem unless you chose not to experiment with the game's mechanics. It's also the first battle where buffs and debuffs (especially debuffs) actually matter along with resistances.
Correct. The people who had trouble with him are people who were new to Megaten and weren't familiar with the systems. That was kind of my whole point.
Lucent
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mmm...none of that sounds interesting for me. I tend not to level up my characters beyond what I need to win or worry about 100%'n things. Think I'll just go with the base game and use the $30 promo credit on some other stuff. Was thinking of using it on Dream Team but...I like my physical stuff so I'll probably save it for AA5.
Will have this game in two days.
TurnipFritters
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Famitsu reported it as the final quest. None of the DLC is necessary, all of it is bonus material. You might as well pick up the two sets that will be free at launch (One is three pieces of headgear that are marginally better than your starting equipment, and one is a suit of equipment that is also marginally better than your starting equipment), but other than that it's up to you.
However, you probably won't be able to beat the Final DLC Boss without getting the previous two or three DLC sets, because you'll need some of the skills that only those DLC demons have.
Cool. Thanks. I am looking forward to playing this, my first Megaten, game.
okay for anyone out there who's playing, what level were you/demons did you use on the
?? I can get pretty far in the fight, but towards the end he uses charge and just starts oneshotting everyone. Doesn't help that my dumbass fellow samurai keep using the wrong elements on him 
minotaur
GeekyDad
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Ha, ha. NSIS, but that's Kurt Russell from Escape From New York (circa 1981). Not sure if that was some kind of homage or just coincidence.
Wouldn't surprise me if they did model it after him. Lisa's dad in P2:IS was modeled after Steven Segal.
TurnipFritters
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It's an homage. Walter is based on Sid Vicious and Jonathan is based on Brian May.
Mr.LightMan
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Just picked it up. Can't wait to start playing.