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[F0rneus]

Do you learn specific skills from specific demons, then? That seems like kind of a pain versus the Magatama system.



This is exactly what I was afraid of. Being forced to use a specific demon just to siphon a skill out of it seems like kind of a pain in the butt, especially if it only works once per demon. Magatama system was a lot more intuitive, I think. Thanks for letting me know, though.

Except demons not in battle still get XP and level up and since most get all their skills after 1 or 2 levels, it's super easy and fast.

 

[TheExodu5]

Do demons still get XP if they're dead?

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

its just a joke because some idiot said it. its not something to take seriously.

lol, I know. I just thought it was pretty rad, and it's bound to stir up some dumb shit. And that's what a good thread title should do.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

Except demons not in battle still get XP and level up and since most get all their skills after 1 or 2 levels, it's super easy and fast.

I just very rarely switch demons unless I have to - once I get attached, I usually stick to one party or the other for large swathes of the game. Having to basically keep one party slot always reserved for "skill bitch" is kind of frustrating, though I guess I'll have to see just how much when I actually see the system in action.

Of course, in Nocturne, for the entire last quarter of the game I had Dante taking up a slot at all times, so that's kind of the same thing.

 

[F0rneus]

Do demons still get XP if they're dead?

Nah, you need to revive them

 

[pigz]

Do you learn specific skills from specific demons, then? That seems like kind of a pain versus the Magatama system.

It allows you to move any of the skills the demon has, for good. Also if you have a skill that the demon has it is automatically leveled up (more powerful, less casting cost etc). This ties the MC skills to the fusion system which is pretty neat.

8 hrs in it only has taken like 1 - 4 levels for any demon o max out it's learning

 

[TheExodu5]

Oh damn you could go back to the barracks and rest during the training mission? That would have helped, haha. I thought it was pretty tough.

 

[Paper Sparrow]

Just got my copy. I have a backlog to finish, but what does that matter when there are demons to fuse!

 

[Ourobolus]

Anyone take Chibi Nebiros or Chibi Amazon yet?
Also who's number 38? It's been a long time since I've played an SMT game D:

I think it's Ishtar? I thought she had blond hair though.

 

[F0rneus]

I just very rarely switch demons unless I have to - once I get attached, I usually stick to one party or the other for large swathes of the game. Having to basically keep one party slot always reserved for "skill bitch" is kind of frustrating, though I guess I'll have to see just how much when I actually see the system in action.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding but I am not sure what your problem is haha. As long as a demon is in your current stock, it gains XP. You don't have to use them in battle. You can have your main party and then every other demon in your stock levels up and can gift you their skills anyway.

Furthermore, thanks to Burroughs upgrades, and the new fusion system you can add pretty much any skill to any demon and get them stats as good as anything else, with enough effort. Pretty sure you could get a Level 99 Pixie with beast Mag and Mediarahan and Megidolaon.

So if you like specific demons, for once they are actually viable.

 

[Dresden]

Guess I'll pump up Mag.

 

[Lissar]

Since other people are doing it...

Can someone make me the Vivian avatar from that bunch.. unless someone took it, which I haven't seen yet.

Don't know if someone took it or not, but here you are:

 

[Watashiwa]

This is exactly what I was afraid of. Being forced to use a specific demon just to siphon a skill out of it seems like kind of a pain in the butt, especially if it only works once per demon. Magatama system was a lot more intuitive, I think. Thanks for letting me know, though.

Dude, you're reaching. The Magatama system was hopeless opaque unless you had a guide to see what each of them yielded, and if you weren't familiar with the franchise it was very easy to delete some of the best skills in the game early on.

Oh, any chance of someone doing Masakado? Would love to have him as an avatar.

 

[SeZMehK]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding but I am not sure what your problem is haha. As long as a demon is in your current stock, it gains XP. You don't have to use them in battle. You can have your main party and then every other demon in your stock levels up and can gift you their skills anyway.

Furthermore, thanks to Burroughs upgrades, and the new fusion system you can add pretty much any skill to any demon and get them stats as good as anything else, with enough effort. Pretty sure you could get a Level 99 Pixie with beast Mag and Mediarahan and Megidolaon.

So if you like specific demons, for once they are actually viable.

The stock demons look like they only gain half the exp you earn. I don't know but that's what it looks like to me. I can be wrong...

 

[jello44]

Don't know if someone took it or not, but here you are:

Awesome, thanks!

 

[Ourobolus]

So with Skill Whispering, can I re-learn a skill if I delete it? Say I have Agi and 7 other skills, and I learn a new skill, replacing Agi. If I later want to learn Agi, can I?

 

[SeZMehK]

Yeah, I don't recommend that. I just started the game as well, but my experience with this series tells me a focused build is probably the way to go. A jack-of-all-trades is probably the best way to make things miserable for yourself later on in the game.

Well shit. Looks like I will have to stop going all around and put it in Mag... I am only level 11, should I start over? I picked up a few demons that I like...

 

[Doombear]

I just realized that Lucifer has the numbers on him, himself, so it will look bad if someone crops him, damn it man!

What numbers? =)

or

 

[tornjaw]

Ordered it off of Amazon. I didn't even realize that there was a limited edition or that I was going to get that instead. ... Not sure that I want to open this. =|

 

[Stoof]

Sorry to ask this again, but could someone make an avatar out of number 8? I don't know the name but I would like to snag him. Any help is appreciated.

 

[GeekyDad]

Well shit. Looks like I will have to stop going all around and put it in Mag... I am only level 11, should I start over? I picked up a few demons that I like...

Nah, I wouldn't. Why break the pacing of your experience of the game for something so trivial? Besides, you probably would have thrown at least a couple of points elsewhere here and there.

 

[SeZMehK]

So with Skill Whispering, can I re-learn a skill if I delete it? Say I have Agi and 7 other skills, and I learn a new skill, replacing Agi. If I later want to learn Agi, can I?

You can but the thing is, if a demon whispers you a skill you have already, the skill is powered up. For example, you have Agi and the demon also has Agi + Bufu. Your Agi will automatically be upgraded to Agi+1. It becomes a bit stronger.

 

[Ourobolus]

You can but the thing is, if a demon whispers you a skill you have already, the skill is pwered up. For example you have Agi and the demon also has Agi + Bufu. Your Agi will automatically be upgraded to Agi+1. It becomes a bit stronger.

Huh...that's interesting. Is there a cap on that? Can Agi, say, become stronger than Agilao?

 

[buddha0991]

What numbers? =)

or

You are my god damn hero man.

 

[SeZMehK]

Huh...that's interesting. Is there a cap on that? Can Agi, say, become stronger than Agilao?

I am sure there is a cap but I am not that far into the game and I don't think it will be stronger than Agilao.

 

[F0rneus]

- I completed the first dungeon ritual. I had one "game over" so far. I'm using "'s because it's impossible to have game overs in SMT4. When your party is wiped out, you end up going to limbo where the dead wait to be carried off to the Land of the Dead. A character offers to revive you - for a macca fee. Don't have enough money? It goes on your tab. If your mc dies in battle, you don't get a game over. This resulted in me just cruising through battles even if the mc dies once I had a full party. This, in combination with the ability to save anywhere, could put off some more hardcore SMT fans. Right now I'm not at the point where I really mind, but as it is, you cannot get a game over. I've basically been playing on autopilot so far and it's not really challenging to a vet like me, but I'm sure it'll pick up soon. It's not like the hospital was tough in SMT3 so it's logical to have some reservations.

You can get a game over. The tab is not cumulative. It works once. Die again without paying it back and it's over

 

[Ourobolus]

I am sure there is a cap but I am not that far into the game and I don't think it will be stronger than Agilao.

Ok, cool. Thanks.

 

[VariantX]

My copy was just delivered in the mail not 30 mins ago along with a new 32 gig SD card for my 3DS. Having never played games from this series before, the Limited edition box set + $30 credit to go towards another game made this too easy of a purchase decision to make. I'm in for a ride aren't I?

 

[Xclash]

I am sure there is a cap but I am not that far into the game and I don't think it will be stronger than Agilao.

So far I managed to get it to +8, the noticeable benefit is the reduced mp cost.

 

[Sleepy]

Really, Atlus? The average song length for the OST is ~2 minutes? Awesome package, nonetheless. Going to register the game now! $30 here I come.

 

[Korosenai]

Walked into Gamestop and picked a copy up. Now to register the code and get the $30.

 

[TheExodu5]

So how are guns? Are they annoying to use? Can't decide how to level up my MC yet...I've just been pouring points into STR.

Also, does AGI affect my hit rate? The text says it affects evasion, but makes no mention of hit rate.

 

[buddha0991]

So how are guns? Are they annoying to use? Can't decide how to level up my MC yet...I've just been pouring points into STR.

Also, does AGI affect my hit rate? The text says it affects evasion, but makes no mention of hit rate.

Str is said to be bad in this game. I've heard it only affects your normal attack and Dex is better. I suggest looking it up if you can.

 

[Lucent]

UPS just delivered mine. =D

Will get into it sometime today.

 

[SteeloDMZ]

Woooooooooohooooo finally got the game. Gonna play the shit out of it now!

 

[MikeE21286]

Ok, I'm not waiting for my newegg copy to arrive in the mail...

Gonna buy it at Best Buy tonight and then return my newegg copy to Best Buy once I get it in the mail Wednesday.

 

[Lissar]

Made a few from my favorites (that I THINK I haven't seen people using yet, sorry if you are!)

And some requests I saw:

 

[HiddenWings]

Did anyone take Ose (#14) Yet? If not, I'll claim that one. I Just picked it up on the eShop, I'll get to it later tonight.

Edit: And now I don't even have to make it myself. Thanks!

 

[Lissar]

Did anyone take Ose (#14) Yet? If not, I'll claim that one. I Just picked it up on the eShop, I'll get to it later tonight.

Edit: And now I don't even have to make it myself. Thanks!

I realized I hadn't edited out part of the white, so make sure you take the re-edited version!

 

[Xclash]

Made a few from my favorites (that I THINK I haven't seen people using yet, sorry if you are!)

I looked back a few pages to make sure no one had it already. Thanks for making it.

 

[Sleepy]

the credit comes through immediately. now if the site will stop crashing...

I cannot wait to play this game this weekend. Bailing out of the thread, no spoilers.

 

[Stoof]

And some requests I saw:

You are amazing, thank you so much!

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

I only got to play for about a half hour, but everything impresses me incredibly so far. It looks amazing, plays great and comes with a lot of goodies. It's nice to not have buyer's remorse for a Day One.

Knocking it out of the park, Atlus.

 

[Frosteey]

Okay this game provides the feeling I have been chasing after since I first started Persona 4. The futility of attempting to hit blobs with a sword.

 

[KakesuSora]

Finally got it. Also, since when do Gamestops make you show your ID for trade-ins? The kid in front of me got stopped and had to go get his Mom, but they didn't say anything to me even though I'm 16.

 

[Deified Data]

Any other Lawbros out there making Law their first route? I've been giving it serious thought.

 

[Paper Sparrow]

Okay this game provides the feeling I have been chasing after since I first started Persona 4. The futility of attempting to hit blobs with a sword.

I know that feel all too well... I have terrible hand eye coordination.

 

[MikeE21286]

Finally got it. Also, since when do Gamestops make you show your ID for trade-ins? The kid in front of me got stopped and had to go get his Mom, but they didn't say anything to me even though I'm 16.

To my knowledge they always ask for your information (name, address, phone, etc.)

At least every trade-in I've always done has had that information attached to the bottom of the trade-in receipt.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

What stats would you guys say are the most important?

 

[Soulhouf]

Okay, let's do this.