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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
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Liferebooted
Banned
I'm going to admit that before 3 months ago I had never heard of this series. I fell in love with a trailer when I was super drunk and alt tabbed during a wow raid.. I kept the preorder because the Amazon limited stuff looked really nice for once without a large mark up. After just 40 minutes of play time I'm so glad I kept this. This game has more detail and quality in the first 40 minutes that most games do anymore.
I want to see more opinions from SMT newcomers.
From what I've played, I don't think there's a better game to get into this franchise than SMTIV: everything is really well explained, the user interface is easy to navigate and the tutorial does a good job explaining the basics of the game systems.
If you don't use gun attacks, I see no reason to be concerned.
iAmMaximus
Member
So what kind of game is this? I've never played SMT but anything RPG elements I'm interested in.
WrenchNinja
Member
Im starting to think SMT is just not for me. Demon negotiation is stupid, it feels like everything is a random whim. Hated it in Persona and Persona 2, hate it here.
The presentation for this game feels really cheap, maybe its the compressed video and audio and the 3DS' s low res screen.
I dont know if Im done, I'll probably give it another couple of hours before I decide to sell it.
At least I got the eshop credit out of it.
The presentation for this game feels really cheap, maybe its the compressed video and audio and the 3DS' s low res screen.
I dont know if Im done, I'll probably give it another couple of hours before I decide to sell it.
At least I got the eshop credit out of it.
Played about 2 hours so far. Not too bad. Not really feeling the full "wow" of SMT yet though. The introduction so far is definitely more "casual" than SMT3 and SJ in terms of both presentation and accessibility. They clearly want to ease people into the game instead of throwing players into a weird experience right off the bat. Oh well.
Not really a fan of any of the characters so far either, but that's par for the course for classic Megaten stories. I usually hate most of cast and latch on to the few characters who exhibit a personality I endorse at all, it any at all. The same went for Devil Survivor 1, which really made it feel like a classic Megaten scenario. So this isn't really a strike against it, but an observation, lol.
The game feels great, sounds great, and the art mostly looks great. I still don't like the character design much at all, but the supporting characters seem to come off better than the main cast so far. The environments are great though, and so are the static backgrounds in Mikado. The soundtrack is definitely the big winner here. Sooooo much better than SJ.
I'll say in terms of structure, this is the first modern SMT which actually reminds me more of SMT1-2. Most fans are probably more familiar with the bleak "loneliness" presented in SMT3 and SJ, but it's kinda nice to have a SMT game which presents the idea of there being a functioning world again.
Not really a fan of any of the characters so far either, but that's par for the course for classic Megaten stories. I usually hate most of cast and latch on to the few characters who exhibit a personality I endorse at all, it any at all. The same went for Devil Survivor 1, which really made it feel like a classic Megaten scenario. So this isn't really a strike against it, but an observation, lol.
The game feels great, sounds great, and the art mostly looks great. I still don't like the character design much at all, but the supporting characters seem to come off better than the main cast so far. The environments are great though, and so are the static backgrounds in Mikado. The soundtrack is definitely the big winner here. Sooooo much better than SJ.
I'll say in terms of structure, this is the first modern SMT which actually reminds me more of SMT1-2. Most fans are probably more familiar with the bleak "loneliness" presented in SMT3 and SJ, but it's kinda nice to have a SMT game which presents the idea of there being a functioning world again.
Basileus777
Member
Amazon hasn't even shipped my copy out. It's been stuck on "shipping now" for 2 days. Ugh.
Here's what I saw about how to get neutral:
Pick the top answer for every question. Side with Jonathan during the first split. Side with chaos during the last split.
I'm not sure if challenge quests affect your alignment though. Apparently the window for neutral is very small.
SuperSonic1305
Member
What is the orange square at the start of the dungeon? I can't interact with it.
Where did you see that post?
perfect free
Member
Attention demons: I am not a charity. Eventually I'm going to need some of you to join me in return for all this macca I'm passing out.
Thanks for the tips guys! I think I might go magical.
I wonder if there is an easy way to get Neutral route on here. Seems to be conflicting information all over the place.
Press down on the d-pad.
Mokoi was the second demon that joined me, and he's a total bro!
Anyway I finished a boss battle and
-Yay Isabeau!
-Boo Jonathan
Reasoning:
I was about to easily beat a horde boss when fucking Jonathan casts Bufu and gives them an extra turn, and the boss lunge spams my entire team so I have to restart. When I did, I was pleasantly surprised to see Isabeu as my new partner, and due her to access to Zio skills, she made the boss considerably easier.
Smushroomed
Banned
looks like gamefly decided to send me smt4 before fire emblem.
i ain't even mad
i ain't even mad
It was called "How do I know I'm on the neutral path?"
There's some spoilers involved. Person said they got the info from a Japanese wiki and it worked for them.
I suggest switching to the camera angle with the most visibility for the character while playing the game. Make sure you can see the character's feet. Now, when you approach places which have orange squares, set into the area and press either up and down, depending on whether it looks like the point of interest is above or below you. The game will then show a prompt to press A to either jump down/crawl under/jump up/etc. It's not that intuitive at first, but once you get used to it you'll be fine.
Smushroomed
Banned
What are some tips for a first time SMT player?
I give up pretty easily in games if its frustrating, but I'm looking to not be a little baby
Are save points pretty generous or can you save at any time?
I give up pretty easily in games if its frustrating, but I'm looking to not be a little baby
Are save points pretty generous or can you save at any time?
I had a similar experience. Took so many tries to get this level 2 punk.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
For me, the first true difficulty spike was the first real boss. He's magnitudes harder than anything else you have seen so far.
GeekyDad
Member
Agree, the conversations are random, but it doesn't bother me. Disagree with you, though, regarding the presentation, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion. And yeah, at least you got the store credits.
OK. About the quests what I gather is that you shouldn't do them until you're locked on the neutral path, then start to do them? I asked a question in that thread and I'll see if that's what the one poster meant.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
See? This is why I'm scared. I want Neutral and I don't want to screw up. I know it's GameFAQs and all, but for the past few weeks people there have been saying that doing all sidequests is a huge point in favor of the neutral path.
Save any time. I did a bit of let's say 'suicide negotions' early on, focused on recruiting demons even if it killed me, then if a battle gets hard later you can talk to a demon you already have and they will leave the battle. The more you get the more enemy weaknesses you can cover. Then when you get fusion ability, get whatever looks good and you can recruit the demons you used as fodder for the fusion again (can summon them but it costs money).
Stat wise focus on magic for easier time, can focus on teaching the main character every type of spell (agi, zan, zio, bufu) whenever a demon learns all their skills, typically after 1-3 levels, the main character can inherit their skills.
I want Chaos route, anyone know how easy/hard it is to notice?
Lordwindowlicker
Member
It's not really Persona, since the Persona series is an offshoot of the original Megami Tensei and then Shin Megami Tensei series.
KakesuSora
Member
Well, it didn't take me that long to die twice...
Here is the thread for anyone who wants to read it (spoilers btw):
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/672441-shin-megami-tensei-iv/66699941
One user called penguin knight says that you shouldn't do sidequests to keep the alignment scale as simple as possible, then start to do them once you're locked into neutral (as it becomes necessary for that path).
Here's what you should do before you're locked in:
The method I posted seems simpler though. I wonder if there're multiple ways to get it.
I can't wait to see how this does in the July NPD next month.
Yeah it's supposed to be a joke
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
From that thread haha:
We actually had someone a month ago say that you had to do a lot of sidequests to get Neutral, so this kinda conflicting info.
This is why I'm literally scared of doing anything. Still I am pushing forward and winging it. So far, pretty sure I'm Law aligned, and it's the path I want the least.
Yeah, that penguin knight dude responded to that with his "don't do sidequests till you're locked in" post. Though I hope that no quests are missable by doing that.
That is wonderful.
hm..
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
First time my 3DS battery has been nearly drained since Fire Emblem: Awakening. SMT IV moistens the thighs, plain and simple.
InsaneElite
Member
Got my first challenge quest from a demon, had to chase Wu Kong around Naraku three times and put him down. Wasn't too rough of a fight, just had to keep healing and Rakukaja up constantly to endure.
And just discovered now he's fusable, neat.
And just discovered now he's fusable, neat.
cj_iwakura
Member
Good god. Second tutorial fight. Negotiate.
Denied. Dead.
Denied. Dead.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I know that feel. XD