Was that the one where you ride a short bus shooting at the gallery then grab a Humvee .50 cal which then triggers a hundred haunted spawns? If so...
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Shinji Mikami's THE EVIL WITHIN |OT| Where's everyone going? Tango?
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Not even.
-MD-
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2 and 3 are some of the best imo.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Not centered exactly, but you have to do too much camera adjusting to get things to pop up sometimes.
They do pull the camera back a few times, but the issues remain issues throughout. You'll learn to manage most of them though, and the game itself gets much better beyond where you are. Keep going.
Technoweirdo
Member
Just checking: Are you sure you hit them in the face with the bottle? Unlike Joel, Seb's not a star pitcher and doesn't get bullseye's like magic.
But yes, animation-wise (and control, unfortunately), it just isn't like TLOU.
-MD-
Member
Do you mean the popup bubbles? I turned those off completely.
Shouldn't need those to popup to pick up objects anyways I would think.
NoirVisage
Banned
Congrats! if you have atheories or questions hit the spoiler thread!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=134823550#post134823550
Just checking: Are you sure you hit them in the face with the bottle? Unlike Joel, Seb's not a star pitcher and doesn't get bullseye's like magic.
The fat ones don't seem to be affected enough to be stealth killed after a bottle throw to the FACE , make sure you're not wasting your time doing that with them.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Just checking: Are you sure you hit them in the face with the bottle? Unlike Joel, Seb's not a star pitcher and doesn't get bullseye's like magic.
Always face shots. It's a desperation move so I always make sure I have enough space and the right angle to do it. It works often enough that I keep attempting it, but every now and then it'll leave me hanging like an idiot crouched in front of an enemy who's clearly in the stun animation.
I didn't even realize you could turn off those pop ups. But yes, without deliberately positioning the camera to make them pop up, Sebastian doesn't consistently pick things up or burn bodies even though they might be right outside of the letterbox frame (which is ALL THE TIME in this game)
The funny thing about this camera system is that 90% of the time it's best to keep it as close to the RE4 angle as possible, and keep everything in front of you. As soon as you try to get fancy in ways the game looks like it will allow, systems fall apart.
RealityPales
Member
Chapter 8 sure was a quickie.
UltraGunner
Banned
Man the second time you fight the chainsaw dude is a cakewalk. He goes down with 4-5 shots of the harpoon arrows.
TargetDummy81
Neo Member
Supposed to be the splashes of their footsteps in puddles or physical objects being pushed aside.
I was stumped on the best method so I experimented with them. You can either place a explosive bolt since it is triggered by proximity in their path although this won't be an instant kill.
What worked for me was using a flash bang arrow and then charging him while he was blinded for a stealth knife kill. I liked that idea better than trying to hit them and end up wasting ammo.
I can't imagine there's a better way than 1 Harpoon Bolt and then run up and light them on fire with a match. Works every time.
You can tell when they're in your line of sight, because the trajectory line on the crossbow gets cut off.
Based off some people in this thread it seems like the last few chapters until the very last one are some of the worst in the game.
NoirVisage
Banned
Give it up dude if you're not engaged with the gameplay let alone the story and the characters, you weren't the audience for this game, go play something else, you could probably get a good trade in amount if you gamestop it .
Duxxy3
Member
I have a very hard time getting back into these games. I've been at the end of Resident Evil 4 for over a year.
-MD-
Member
You must be in heaven.
The Xtortionist
Member
I'm vehemently against that stuff (along with unskippable cutscenes) and I'm pretty ok with how TEW handes it. Obviously I'd prefer it it wasn't a thing at all, but it's kept to a manageable level and never breaks the pace for me. Nothing like Yemen in Uncharted 3 or anything lol
Chapters 5 and 6 took me about two hours each. Was not expecting them to he so meaty.
demosthenes
Member
Anyone using Flawless Widescreen and have this issue crop up:
It's not working
It's not working
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Just finished it. 16:12:28 was my time, 151 deaths
I think it's a great survival horror game. I'd give it a solid 9. It's a perfect game to start the genre out right this gen.
kunonabi
Member
I have the same trouble with the invisible guys. Now I just run past everything since it doesn't really make sense to be cautious and stealthy with them around.
Ugggh, that sucks. At least I know that it's not just me. Guess I'll perservere, I wanna see the end at least.
I never said I wasn't engaged with the any of that. Quite the opposite, I loved the story and didn't think the characters or gameplay were bad. I have no idea what's wrond tonight, chapter 11 just isn't pulling me back into the game.
demosthenes
Member
This is why I'm trying to get this damn Flawless Widescreen to work for my game ._.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I just got my pin in the mail today. It's a pretty large pin.
TheBlueBomber
Member
I just got my pin in the mail today. It's a pretty large pin.
Where'd you get that? I NEED one of those haha
ViewtifulJC
Banned
What I did was
use a freeze arrow when he's looking, snipe him in the eye, did wait for him to go around the corner as you hide behind the column, and then his eye comes back out. Freeze, snipe, usually goes into Rage mode after that. If not, hide in the storage rooms for ammo/weapon destruction.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I found it on eBay.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...evil+within+pin&_nkw=evil+within+pin&_sacat=0
They have a few other Bethesda related games too. I take it they were handed out at E3.
TheBlueBomber
Member
Huh, I'll have to pick one up! I really like the way they look
NoirVisage
Banned
oh, well you may be experiencing the doldrums, cwatch super troopers if you have netflx or chapter 12 might smack you out of it , one way or the other, its less dark than the other chapters..you'll see.
Lucent
Member
No it wasn't random. You tripped a wire. I never got hit by those because you learn early on to look at the ground for traps when in places like that. Turn your lantern on if you need to.
Getting near the end. Might be able to beat it tomorrow.
the game.
The first chapter might as well be called
hobbling
I didn't think about the black bars much at all until I saw all the complaining in this thread. Now I notice them constantly. In other words, Neogaf ruined it fer me!
TheSadRanger
Banned
I got a chapter 6 nightmare question.
Having problems with the section where Joseph is with you and you gotta snipe those bolt spewing boxes. Do the haunted have infinite spawns in that part or will they stop spawning if I shoot out all the boxes?
The Xtortionist
Member
So I finished the game after a marathon session (chapter 7-end) yesterday. Time was around 14:15. Pretty satisfied with the length, especially with NG+ and additional difficulties to play.
Just some quick thoughts. I think the gameplay is generally amazing, with stellar mechanics and encounter design. The feedback from killing, or hell, even merely wounding enemies in some cases is some of the best I've ever seen. Many encounters are crafty in their construction, and even the more rudimentary fights are elevated by the pure joy of the mechanics.
Aesthetically, I'm very pleased with the game for the most part. Sound design is pretty much perfect given the scenarios in the game, and the art design rises above the technical shortcomings of the engine.
A few knocks against the game: The graphics become pretty bland during outdoor areas late in the game. There's occasional jank in the gameplay with certain prompts requiring a bit of effort to trigger, or Seb just not moving quite as accurately as I want, or crouch walking feeling just a tad too slow. I'm pretty alright with the black bars by this point, though the FOV still feels a bit too narrow in most cases. While I found the story to be very interesting in concept, the characters amount to nothing and there seem to be way too many holes for anything to really tie together logically.
I have to mention that dat Mikami pacing is in full effect here. As noted, I played from chapter 7 to the end of the game in one sitting (minus bathroom breaks) without ever getting bored. It's kind of difficult for me to describe why, but Mikami just fucking gets pacing. The game moves from stealth encounters, to balls-out action, to psychological moments, to exploratory situations, back to other stuff over and over without skipping a beat. Just masterful.
Overall, this is nearly a 15 hour ride that I'll definitely take again. Mikami nails the - and I don't use this word often - "visceral" nature of combat like no one else. Fucking dudes up in this game is a sadistic joy. Pacing is pitch-perfect and the scenarios are constantly inventive. The game is also quite a looker most of the time.
Rating this game is difficult. I'd like to say 8/10 but my heart says 9/10. I feel this is definitely a game that's more than the sum of its parts. I suppose its a bit like that Dan Hsu Gears of War review where he trashes several elements of the game before giving it top marks. For all the occasional jank in the gameplay, irrelevant characters, and technical issues (framerate/FOV/letterboxing), the game just hit me in the feels like no other in recent memory. I may be a bit biased because RE4 is my favorite game of all time, but goddamn if TEW not only scratched an itch I've had for nearly 10 years, but scratched it well. Welcome back, Mikami. We've missed you.
Just some quick thoughts. I think the gameplay is generally amazing, with stellar mechanics and encounter design. The feedback from killing, or hell, even merely wounding enemies in some cases is some of the best I've ever seen. Many encounters are crafty in their construction, and even the more rudimentary fights are elevated by the pure joy of the mechanics.
Aesthetically, I'm very pleased with the game for the most part. Sound design is pretty much perfect given the scenarios in the game, and the art design rises above the technical shortcomings of the engine.
A few knocks against the game: The graphics become pretty bland during outdoor areas late in the game. There's occasional jank in the gameplay with certain prompts requiring a bit of effort to trigger, or Seb just not moving quite as accurately as I want, or crouch walking feeling just a tad too slow. I'm pretty alright with the black bars by this point, though the FOV still feels a bit too narrow in most cases. While I found the story to be very interesting in concept, the characters amount to nothing and there seem to be way too many holes for anything to really tie together logically.
I have to mention that dat Mikami pacing is in full effect here. As noted, I played from chapter 7 to the end of the game in one sitting (minus bathroom breaks) without ever getting bored. It's kind of difficult for me to describe why, but Mikami just fucking gets pacing. The game moves from stealth encounters, to balls-out action, to psychological moments, to exploratory situations, back to other stuff over and over without skipping a beat. Just masterful.
Overall, this is nearly a 15 hour ride that I'll definitely take again. Mikami nails the - and I don't use this word often - "visceral" nature of combat like no one else. Fucking dudes up in this game is a sadistic joy. Pacing is pitch-perfect and the scenarios are constantly inventive. The game is also quite a looker most of the time.
Rating this game is difficult. I'd like to say 8/10 but my heart says 9/10. I feel this is definitely a game that's more than the sum of its parts. I suppose its a bit like that Dan Hsu Gears of War review where he trashes several elements of the game before giving it top marks. For all the occasional jank in the gameplay, irrelevant characters, and technical issues (framerate/FOV/letterboxing), the game just hit me in the feels like no other in recent memory. I may be a bit biased because RE4 is my favorite game of all time, but goddamn if TEW not only scratched an itch I've had for nearly 10 years, but scratched it well. Welcome back, Mikami. We've missed you.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I believe they do because they come from that door. Plus I think it's also because of ammo purposes. As long as those boxes are up they spawn. You can speed up that area by knowing what each spot triggers what bolt spewing box. They have specific locations, but save the box in the center for last. It should trigger once you go down to the door where they're hanging from.
Few things speak to me more than a game with great pacing. Pacing is something I value very highly in a game, much more than the average.
It's why I generally can't stand open-world games that aren't made by Rockstar.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Even them...fuck it
hate the damn open world trend thats hot right now, with mission design that aint evolved since GTA3. Hope Zelda and MGS got their own thing going on next year.
Rockstar's recent games haven't been perfect. GTA V's campaign kinda starts wandering aimlessly about halfway through and RDR has Mexico, of course. (I like Mexico, but it was still the low-point of the game)
Net_Wrecker
Member
Guys pls, don't get me started on open world games that all make me angry but I keep buying anyway....aside from the wonderful Sleeping Dogs.
antitrop baiting me with that "except Rockstar" comment. I won't bite, I won't bite *struggles internally*
antitrop baiting me with that "except Rockstar" comment. I won't bite, I won't bite *struggles internally*
The Xtortionist
Member
I'd really like to start new game + but can't find a collectables guide that includes key locations >_<
Also I just want to throw this out there: Game isn't scary at all. It's quite thrilling at times and the atmosphere can be very tense/oppressive, but anyone holding out because of a dislike for horror games has nothing to worry about. I like to think I'm jumpy as fuck and the game only got me like 3-4 times in nearly 15 hours.
Also I just want to throw this out there: Game isn't scary at all. It's quite thrilling at times and the atmosphere can be very tense/oppressive, but anyone holding out because of a dislike for horror games has nothing to worry about. I like to think I'm jumpy as fuck and the game only got me like 3-4 times in nearly 15 hours.
They popularized the genre and they're still the masters of it. Bring on November 18, baby!
TheBlueBomber
Member
This pretty much sums up how I feel (I haven't finished the game, but I've played enough to know how I feel about it so far) and I feel this is one I'll look back on years down the road with fond memories like I do RE4 and replay it from time to time
Net_Wrecker
Member
I'm probably gonna double dip even with all the issues I have with the game :X
Just to see the improvements :X
Just to see the improvements :X
The Xtortionist
Member
im going to buy GTAV on PS4
then im going to start it up
then im going to run my character in a circle
then im going to be sad
again