That was actually the scariest part of the game for me. It didn't really get old because it was random and didn't happen constantly.
Good to hear. It's not that chapter 11 is horrible. Just doesn't really fit my tastes.
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That was actually the scariest part of the game for me. It didn't really get old because it was random and didn't happen constantly.
Good to hear. It's not that chapter 11 is horrible. Just doesn't really fit my tastes.
The end of chapter 6 is so bonkers.
Why does the boss fight abruptly end in the middle of dealing damage, to you suddenly helping your partner (who had disappeared during the fight?!?!?) through the gate, and then that pointless mad dash back into the arena to retrieve his glasses. It makes no fucking sense, and had me rocking back-and-forth, laughing... raging... laughing. I looked like a crazy person during that section!
darkwing-buck
Member
Who Else tried the
? So satisfying to use but damn the bullets are still limited lol
machine gun
No I don't have the game... I was asking other people what they think of the game cause I was thinking about buying it, and my post was summarizing the answers that I got. The answers are on the last few pages of this thread.
NoirVisage
Banned
chapter 9 I didn't die once from
Ruvik either,, (let aloneSEE him) I guess I took into account an invincible man with insta kill hands was prowling the area, and made sure to always be ready for his entrance..any important stuff did, i saved right after and continued after Ruvik appeared.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Yeah it's amazing!
NoirVisage
Banned
Play that level again when you g
et a certain game game completion weapon.
Glad that mission is there especially for maximum carnage.
NecromorphTX
Member
In resume, the game is a rollercoaster. The chapters 1 to 10, perfect, 11 to 13, shit, and 14 to 15, ok/good.
In overall, the game is good, but the chapters 11 to 13 makes you wanna drop the game.
In overall, the game is good, but the chapters 11 to 13 makes you wanna drop the game.
SlasherJPC
Banned
There is nothing technically bad persay with those chapters. It's a tonal shift and somewhat different from the rest of the game, with a dash here and there of tones from the earlier portion of the game. I never wanted to drop or stop playing the game, nor did I feel that they were bad. Just different and unexpected. Knowing that going back into those section, makes it even less so of a issue. People just don't like the change. I didn't hate it, I noticed it, but in reality, it makes sense in context of the story at that point and onward. That's when the game actually gives you a goal to reach.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
I definitely felt some of that in Ch 3. Like, I can tell it's a really awesome environment, and a well designed map with lots of verticality and interconnections, but it's hard to absorb it when you see so little of it at a time.
As for being weak against enemies, I experienced that at first, but my arsenal grew and I started to rely (perhaps unfortunately) more heavily on the shoot leg -> burn combo. I also upgraded stock for ammo and matches, and suddenly I'm not feeling deprived anymore. In the end, clearing out the little village area wasn't that tough. I was worried I'd have to do a lot more waiting around to observe enemy patrol routes and then stealth everyone. Which I hate.
The aspect ratio makes playing the game more uncomfortable than it should be, and I don't mean in some bullshit "consistent with the theme of the game" kind of way, but in a "this entertainment product is putting completely unnecessary barriers to my enjoyment in my way" kind of way. I want to feel unease because of the content of the game, not because I'm constantly struggling to frame the scene optimally while I peer through a tiny window.
Still, only at the boss of Ch 3, so plenty of time to change my impression.
Sanctuary
Member
Even after finishing the game and replaying it, chapter 3 is still the creepiest. There are other levels that might be more "inventive" (using that term lightly), but none really have a similar atmosphere as chapter 3.
After a while it just becomes "Oh look, more blood dripping from the walls and more barbed wire arranged in a different way, zzz".
Exploring is really rewarding though, between ammo, melee weapons and upgrade juice, you'd definitely feel safer after exploring.
SlasherJPC
Banned
I get the feeling chapter 3 and 4 might have been created earlier on in development. They are just so well done and open. I could be wrong, just a thought.
NecromorphTX
Member
But the change between chapters is too abrupt. Okay, the game gives you a real goal, but the aesthetics who gives the ''soul'', is gone.
SlasherJPC
Banned
I would still say the abrupt change is in the tone or soul as you say. The game itself and chapters are all over the place and change at the drop of a hat sometimes. The change from one location to another is expected. The change to the that location and tone is not.
darkwing-buck
Member
Love how everyone is still in the dark on
reminds of the good ol'RE days where it was up to the community to find out
knowing how to get the other weapons/unlockables
Bl@de
Member
I had one bug in 17 hours of playtime (steam timer)... A boss
(Chapter 10 Parking Lot)
And that's it ... no clipping, no weird lightning, no crashes. Everything runs smooth.
I said it once, and I say it again: I always keep my system clean and up to date with new drivers. I rarely encounter bugs in games. Sometimes the problem may be at the other end of the screen. Not always of course. Performance drops in this game are weird and shouldn't be. But that is not really a bug.
Got to the Chapter 6 mid-boss with 5 handgun bullets, 1 freeze bolt, and 2 grenades.
Luckily I hadn't disabled any of the bombs yet, so I could make 2 explosive bolts.
That plus a barrel got me through the fight, but now I'm going into the rest of the stage with only 4 handgun bullets.
Super intense.
Luckily I hadn't disabled any of the bombs yet, so I could make 2 explosive bolts.
That plus a barrel got me through the fight, but now I'm going into the rest of the stage with only 4 handgun bullets.
Super intense.
Black Bars + the zoomed aim was a terrible, terrible idea if it was a design decision, feels claustrophobic as hell only by watching it that can't even imagine playing it, tension can be had without that "P.T." is a proof of that, this form of design decision for this game is just well not for me.
Now Mikami IMO has done 2 misfires, Vanquish and this, game on the surface seems quite incredible with all in its place yet somehow something ruins it everything, in Vanquish was the robot enemies, not organic and boring to fight, now we have the organic and fun to fight enemies but with black bars and a terrible zoomed aiming.
Now Mikami IMO has done 2 misfires, Vanquish and this, game on the surface seems quite incredible with all in its place yet somehow something ruins it everything, in Vanquish was the robot enemies, not organic and boring to fight, now we have the organic and fun to fight enemies but with black bars and a terrible zoomed aiming.
NoirVisage
Banned
Ha ha, we already figured it all out
I'm sorry, in my opinion, your opinion is laughable,for you to mention PT( a game you probably only watched as well) in the same breath as this game as far as creating tension without having even played this game is hysterical .. AND call vanquish a misfire shows you know eff all about what makes a game good or bad, you're speaking from a place of personal taste and nothing more.
Just finished chapters 1 and 2. Game is not good so far.
The atmosphere is pretty well done with the way it looks and the absence of music most of the time but I haven't actually enjoyed pretty much anything that I've been doing.
The story is terrible so far and I only imagine that it's going to get even more incomprehensible the further I go.
The atmosphere is pretty well done with the way it looks and the absence of music most of the time but I haven't actually enjoyed pretty much anything that I've been doing.
The story is terrible so far and I only imagine that it's going to get even more incomprehensible the further I go.
Seriously 9 and 10 were so well done. 10 was incredible
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I didn't even notice the trap room over on the right. I hit her with the first trap, both flame barrels and both torches and she still didn't die. Her 1 hit kills were just irritating, especially when trying to hit her with the torches
Quick question for those that have finished it, do the environments and atmosphere get anymore varied? Just finshed ch. 5, don't get me wrong I love the environments but the constant mental hospital corridors/basements are getting a little repetitive. Also I take it I am supposed to have no idea wtf is going on, the constant random environment changes are making it hard to keep track.
VeryGooster
Banned
I have a Chapter 9 question.
Thanks.
Is there any merit (or a correct way) to probing this brain at the table? Hit a spot and then took damage, interestingly.
Thanks.
NoirVisage
Banned
Yeah,
Ruviks recordings mention where to pierce, just have to use the diagrams to pierce that spot, make sure you're at full health before you attempt it..just in case.
Ha ha, we already figured it all out
I'm sorry, in my opinion, your opinion is laughable,for you to mention PT( a game you probably only watched as well) in the same breath as this game as far as creating tension without having even played this game is hysterical .. AND call vanquish a misfire shows you know eff all about game design.
I don't think calling my opinion laughable is a very nice thing to say to be honest sinc eIm only saying what I think about this game and nothing more, and that this kind of design of Mikami just is not good IMO, he has lost what made him great, if you feel offended or something because I said this that you need to post some kind of deminishing comment about my opinion well that says more about your attitude towards forum opinions that you disagree than the issue at hand.
Somehow you thinking a game is good overrides everyones opinion but if you want to continue with that line of thiking well be my guess, I haev only stated my opinion here.
And to be clear I said "Watching it that can't imagine playing it" while I did played PT and was more tense and scary that everything that have seen of this.
Mikami just dont' want me to enjoy his games anymore it seems.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
I do agree about Mikami's genius with pacing and keeping you engrossed from beginning to end. It was the same with RE4.
Which is what more than makes up for bugs, bad dialogue, bad story, etc. Not saying TEW suffers from those things but RE4 did have a bad story and dialogue yet it's a masterpiece. TEW suffers from bugs and technical things, but it's still, in many ways, a masterpiece in survival horror game design.
Which is what more than makes up for bugs, bad dialogue, bad story, etc. Not saying TEW suffers from those things but RE4 did have a bad story and dialogue yet it's a masterpiece. TEW suffers from bugs and technical things, but it's still, in many ways, a masterpiece in survival horror game design.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Honestly, RE4 and this have such amazing pacing, Shinji is a masterclass with the use of quiet and exciting moments for me TBH.
VeryGooster
Banned
Ah, okay.
I didn't notice the colored diagram on the table at first. Got it.
Thank you!
Seen a few solutions:
One is to find the house closest to the gate you need to open, lure him near the stairs and flip a switch to set off a bunch of spears from the ceiling. What I did was find the house the doctor went into in the beginning of the area. Inside is a hallway with spikes on the floor. The switch is on the other side of the wall. I just lured him in there and spammed the crap out of the switch when it resets. Just got to be careful since he'll inch closer but I eventually got him.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Yeah, these games are never boring.
Spieler Eins
Member
I disarmed all traps in the map and built a bunch of explosive arrows, of which he can't take too many. And set him on fire once iirc.
TheKingOfPain
Member
Just hit the second checkpoint on chapter 5, this game is so good. The aspect ratio + darkness + good design makes me anxious. Plus I'm using a headset, sound is very creepy some times.
YOU RUN UP AND PUNCH THAT WEASEL IN THE FACE!
Oh sorry I was in the TMF thread and it seemed to have rubbed off on me a little. Run and gun my friend, run and gun. Also look for the agony crossbow if you missed it, a life saver.
TheKingOfPain
Member
Spike trap in the little house. Just activate it 3x (or 4 times, can't remember), he'll basically stagger in the "getting up" animation and die. Very satisfying beating him without pulling the trigger even once.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I think if you had phrased your criticism to be a little less definitive then there would not have been an issue, you outright stated that a beloved game and a game that you have not played are misfires. The problems you talked about fall very much into the 'you get used to them' category. I'd like the black bars gone, but the aiming system is integral to the way the game plays and I wouldn't change it for anything. It reminds about how some people (myself included) don't like Dark Soul's so-called unresponsive controls, a fan of the series would tell you the delay is important to the game. Killzone 2 is another possible example, as the heaviness of the controls is off-pitting to some but vital for others.
Just finished chapter 10 and HOLY crap. The game just took it up a notch. This was the first chapter that I really dreaded playing. With the
Such a crazy game. I'm loving it. 9ish hours in.
carnival like spinning blade sections, enemy gauntlet with having to fight the two big guys at once and finally take ten tries to kill the big boss in the parking garage.
Such a crazy game. I'm loving it. 9ish hours in.
I just finished chapter ten, is the rest of the game not as good? Was that the peak?
I killed him by setting explosive and flame bolts on the ground and just making him walk through them. It was fun as hell.
I didn't cheese him with traps. I had an incendiary bolt in my arsenal, and hit him with that first. Then shotgun shells in the face as I backed up some stairs in the barn area. He went down pretty quick... think the fire bolt did a lot of damage.
Edit: And you've done it, yeah.
Kill him?
NoirVisage
Banned
I loved Vanquish and I adore this game, I hope Mikami makes more games you loathe, your taste is broken.
Never re.ally like Vanquish but I thinks this stands next to re4 as his best game made. This game is brilliant.