The problem with the Vaudevillians is that their gimmick, fun as it is, just doesn't gel with the main roster. Creative clearly doesn't get it and isn't interested, and general audiences don't like it much either.
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The problem with the Vaudevillians is that their gimmick, fun as it is, just doesn't gel with the main roster. Creative clearly doesn't get it and isn't interested, and general audiences don't like it much either.
JesseEwiak
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I look forward to another indie darling being on top as RAW's has it's lowest ratings in history.
Bluekaveli
Member
They would've fit very well with Gallagher, basically a feud over him not being a real gentleman.
The problem with NXT alumni is this:
A lot of people that get called up get no build whatsoever with creative expecting NXT to have done all the build for them expecting them to already be over with the audience. (Tyler Breeze, Vaudevillains, Bo Dallas, etc...)
The people that actually don't need the build and are actually already over with the audience are just made to feel like they've accomplished nothing in NXT even though those are the people who are seemingly more popular to the TV audience than the people on the main roster. (Kevin Owens, Finn Balor, Bayley, etc...)
They pick and choose who they feel they have to introduce/build up from scratch and often times, they choose the wrong people.
Enzo and Cass are like...basically the only people lately that they never felt they had to start introducing from scratch. Everyone already acted like they knew them and they just ran with it.
A lot of people that get called up get no build whatsoever with creative expecting NXT to have done all the build for them expecting them to already be over with the audience. (Tyler Breeze, Vaudevillains, Bo Dallas, etc...)
The people that actually don't need the build and are actually already over with the audience are just made to feel like they've accomplished nothing in NXT even though those are the people who are seemingly more popular to the TV audience than the people on the main roster. (Kevin Owens, Finn Balor, Bayley, etc...)
They pick and choose who they feel they have to introduce/build up from scratch and often times, they choose the wrong people.
Enzo and Cass are like...basically the only people lately that they never felt they had to start introducing from scratch. Everyone already acted like they knew them and they just ran with it.
Ospreay vs Strickland at PROGRESS Chapter 35 not only had an illict amount of crazy flip counters but (spoilers for finish/match story)
Non-spoilery version: If you want to see Ospreay do more than flips and selling (ie the KUSHIDA matches) then watch Ospreay/Strickland here: https://demandprogress.pivotshare.com/media/chapter-35:-writing-nirvana-on-other-people's-bags/52669
proved Will can turn a crowd whenever he wants. Will Ospreay, boo'd in PROGRESS! The fake shoulder injury was absolutely genius and Will's beatdown on Shane was totally vicious. Marty struggles to get heat for fuck sake and he's been out and out heel for a year+ now. Will's a fucking worker.
Non-spoilery version: If you want to see Ospreay do more than flips and selling (ie the KUSHIDA matches) then watch Ospreay/Strickland here: https://demandprogress.pivotshare.com/media/chapter-35:-writing-nirvana-on-other-people's-bags/52669
More of a manga guy myself, actually in the middle of a reread so I can know who these characters are in the mobile game. All I remember from my initial read of the series, which was around the time Steel Ball Run was new:
Diamond is Unbreakable is the best part, Jolyne is the best Jojo
So i finished RAW.
If they want Owens to get some audible heat, he really has to raise the devilish bar.. Why didn't he directly attacked Zayn's leg when he sold his past injury ? Why didn't he injured him for good to sell he's now ready to do everything to stay relevant...
We've seen Owens like that already. That's not the time to be shy with the demonic side of his character...
If they want Owens to get some audible heat, he really has to raise the devilish bar.. Why didn't he directly attacked Zayn's leg when he sold his past injury ? Why didn't he injured him for good to sell he's now ready to do everything to stay relevant...
We've seen Owens like that already. That's not the time to be shy with the demonic side of his character...
You mean SASUKE?
shoot: Makoto Nagano could take out anyone in the entire WWE legit
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Banned
I hate that WWE has managed to make 2 shows half full of people I really like that are sounding just bad enough that I don't have the energy to try and watch them. I kinda hope the cruiserweights get an hour to themselves so I can just watch that, and maybe give SmackDown a shot at some point.
I WAS SO FUCKING WORRIED ABOUT HIM :'(
Smackdown is actually pretty watchable, I've actually been checking in on it for the last two weeks. Even the lesser segments are bareable because of the shows pacing. It reminds me of NXT of yesteryear the way they build feuds and characters. All is not totally lost.
As for Ospreay:
Not seeing it live made me think I would have heard something about it but that motherfucker had me bite on the injury especially since he pretended to do the shoulder pop thing Balor did. Between this and the Vader...incident, Will is really showing he's got this psychology thing down. Praying he really does take this time off as he has announced.
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I'm really hoping he gets a WWE deal in the next year, if nothing else so he can a) succeed and b) get told when to stop.
While we're talking Ospreay, jesus fucking christ that Ospreay vs Fenix preview from BOLA. Dat rana. Dat Spanish Fly. https://youtu.be/7-lBy2o8HQM?t=109
Selfishly I want him to stay away from from WWE (at least till we see what the Cruiserweights on Raw actually looks like) because there's so much stuff he can do in Japan still. I hope this is a turning point for him and while maybe he won't calm down in ring, he'll really start picking his dates. He's a draw for fuck sake! He needs to talk to Kenny Omega about working smart outside of the WWE.
Google image "watching raw backstage" - it's the only way to watch, by all accounts.
On topic - I read the results, fucking Roman lol
Off topic - severe stomach ache and a power cut last night put me in a bad mood, accentuated by kids being up an hour earlier than normal (as I was catching up on not doing anything last night), and now I'm dealing with some of the shittiest clients we have. Fuck today.
Best way to watch TV, really close and at an impossible angle.
What is chubby rood doing in the RAW zone.
Keyser Soze
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Smackdown watches TV better...
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Banned
Willy maaaaybe taking that time off he keeps promising
https://www.instagram.com/p/BJ_iRtoACus/
"Right so time to play the honesty game with you all.
I absolutely love professional wrestling but most of all I love British wrestling. Mainly because it reminds me of how we are not meant to be in the position we are right now but everyone has scratched and clawed to make British Wrestling so popular. Weather your a fan, wrestler, camera guy, promoter, merch girl, or the guy that takes the jackets backstage. You've all helped in making British Wrestling so god damn cool. And you know it's worked because last night out of 24 participants 6 British lads & 1 guy from Amsterdam (pretty much adopted BRIT) performed in PWG's BOLA. For that I'm very proud of all of them and our wonderful little country.
Now to address a matter that's been the rumours of how messed up I am when it concerns my body. I'm not going to make the extent or my injuries public and being honest it's nothing to be scared about or fear for my life. But if I carry on doing the style of matches I do at the rate I do them at my body has no time to recover and that's when I'm gonna get hurt.
Having said this I would like to make it public that the things I wanted to do I need to like the British Triangle Championship I'm gonna need to put a hold on until my body is ready again. So saying this I'm going to honour some of my commitments as a champion in other places, and filling out my duties in touring with NJPW but once I'm in my home country I need to rest.
So here are the dates you'll see me Wrestling in the UK:
Southside - October 1st
WCPW - November 9th
RPW/NJPW - November 10th/11th
ROH - 18th/20th Nov
RCWA - 19th Nov
There are other dates im not announced for yet that will be talked about and there are dates promoters have booked me in for that I need to talk to you about.
Please do not panic or worry about me as I'm walking & healthy. But it comes a point where your body can only take so much and I'm making the adult decision to give my body time to heal.
Hope you can all understand where I'm coming from.
Love you all lots"
https://www.instagram.com/p/BJ_iRtoACus/
"Right so time to play the honesty game with you all.
I absolutely love professional wrestling but most of all I love British wrestling. Mainly because it reminds me of how we are not meant to be in the position we are right now but everyone has scratched and clawed to make British Wrestling so popular. Weather your a fan, wrestler, camera guy, promoter, merch girl, or the guy that takes the jackets backstage. You've all helped in making British Wrestling so god damn cool. And you know it's worked because last night out of 24 participants 6 British lads & 1 guy from Amsterdam (pretty much adopted BRIT) performed in PWG's BOLA. For that I'm very proud of all of them and our wonderful little country.
Now to address a matter that's been the rumours of how messed up I am when it concerns my body. I'm not going to make the extent or my injuries public and being honest it's nothing to be scared about or fear for my life. But if I carry on doing the style of matches I do at the rate I do them at my body has no time to recover and that's when I'm gonna get hurt.
Having said this I would like to make it public that the things I wanted to do I need to like the British Triangle Championship I'm gonna need to put a hold on until my body is ready again. So saying this I'm going to honour some of my commitments as a champion in other places, and filling out my duties in touring with NJPW but once I'm in my home country I need to rest.
So here are the dates you'll see me Wrestling in the UK:
Southside - October 1st
WCPW - November 9th
RPW/NJPW - November 10th/11th
ROH - 18th/20th Nov
RCWA - 19th Nov
There are other dates im not announced for yet that will be talked about and there are dates promoters have booked me in for that I need to talk to you about.
Please do not panic or worry about me as I'm walking & healthy. But it comes a point where your body can only take so much and I'm making the adult decision to give my body time to heal.
Hope you can all understand where I'm coming from.
Love you all lots"
jesus christ
If this isn't the front cover for her book, there is no hope for the world.
I swear I was about to post this exact comment.
spindashing
Banned
ECW champ time?
jesus christ
She is the best
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Yeah, I use to hope that with the new title and how they gave it a new lineage and all that it meant we'd never have to hear about how "Fabulous" Moolah was but nope...
I think the only way WWE will ever really sweep that POS under the rug is if a news site or some place with a large amount of people who follow did a story on what a piece of garbage she was.
The 'real-as-fuck' Attitude Era had tag teams consisting of vampires and dancing vanilla midgets with a fat guy as a third wheel who wore a thong. Anything can work if the writing is behind it.
Dick Justice
Banned
I love the bromance between Jericho and Owens. Jericho coming out to give him backup against that bully Reigns was the feel good moment of the year.
slightconfuse
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Lol Melts said raw was so bad he looks like mister olympia
slightconfuse
Banned
Wait they took bayley's title shot away and gave it to Sasha for no reason.
Lol
Lol
jesus christ
This is my new favorite picture.
Get 'im, Pikma.White mobile gaf?
Did Sasha get a rematch after losing at Summerslam? I don't even know.
Dark mobile GAF looks terrible thoughWhite mobile gaf?
Why? It's easy on the eyes. Especially when I'm in bed at night browsing all of your posts.
LMAO
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Deleted member 47027
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Not everyone understands glamor.
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I don't follow. What's this mean? I know Dave lifts during commercial, but that doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the show.
One would assume if the quality of the show is poor he puts more effort into lifting, as segments like that New Day/Club one do not require ones mental faculties to be entirely focussed on it.
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New Day have that bad of a segment last night?
Keyser Soze
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slightconfuse
Banned
DM nice Jose lothario question on obsever radio
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