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[Caderfix]

I wouldn't say he embarrassed himself, but he was embarrassed all the same. Because he got to show basically nothing (a tiny bit of jits defense). Two years of training isn't enough to be a top level MMA fighter, definitely, but he didn't really get to show anything he learned in those two years and I think it's pretty fair to call that embarrassing.

He wasn't able to show what he learned in those two year because he was shut down by someone who's been doing it for a long time and facing opponents of higher level in actual competition. If you trained for 2 years, without actually competing with anyone serious, would you be able to show what you learned playing a 1 on 1 basketball game with a NBA star? Would you be able to show what you learned after playing Street Fighter in training mode for two years vs an EVO veteran?

That's why I disagree. There's no way anyone could've expected more, including Punk himself. He was saying that lasting 30 seconds would be a victory for him already.

To make things clear, I'm not trying to find excuses. He lost and that's that. He shouldn't be where he was past Sunday in the first place, but, still, people are overthinking this too much.

 

[esmith08734]

Lmao. I love that the service rep acknowledges that it's a mistake, even if it's automated haha.

 

[Sephzilla]

My feels on Punk was that he felt Pro Wrestling was beneath him. Threw it under the bus. He was now doing something real, unlike stupid pro wrestling. He was above his dumb ex career.

I hope this experience his humbling.

I never got the impression he felt it was beneath him. I generally had more the impression he was generally sick and tired of the shit Vince/HHH were pulling on him.

 

[Bluekaveli]

My fucking back is hurting! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😔😔

 

[cordy]

I sort of wish Dean retained just so we could have an All-Face Title Win celebration like that one time after TLC with Punk, Bryan and Zack.

Oh well, there's always the chance Heath Slater mistakes Becky Lynch as his long-list sister because of her dyed hair.

Ambrose will get the title again next year but he's more of a chaser than champion. Besides that, he's only 30 years old and he's already been a US, IC, MITB and WWE Champion. Styles is 39 already and his time's running out. They've gotta strike while the iron is hot. He's also the lead heel so he can win it here and be fine.

Given Ambrose's age, I'd be surprised if he's not at least a 6x world champion before he hangs it up.

 

[klonere]

No lies detected. It's like Nash said. We are in the era of marks becoming wrestlers. Wich is fine, but the old school needed/had some kind of athletic background. Hell old school wrestlers basically get the piss beat out of them before learning how to "work." They knew they had to fight for real if they were ever called out a bar.

In this day and age WWE doesn't need tough guys like they used to.

Oh they hire the tough guys, the college athletes, the ex-football guys. There's a swarm of them down in the PC right now, working away. Guys like Tino Sabatelli who has been there for more than 2 years and still has barely made it to NXT TV and by all accounts, is still pretty bad. Like Bronson Matthews who we haven't heard a peep out of for a year. Like Hugo Knox who has been there over a year and all he has to show for it is a nice course of steroids and a kind of cool dropkick and split legged moonsault. No Way Jose is the PC guy I can pick out who looks to have upside and is vaguely competent and he's an ex indie worker, as were the Revival!

Meanwhile Matt Riddle has spent less than a year on the indies, wrestling in bingo halls and is almost guaranteed to be a huge success if they don't massively fuck him up. Or this new NJPW Young Lion, Henare who looks vastly more comfortable than most of the NXT rookies I've seen.

What I'm saying is - they hire the big huge athlete dudes they used to lust over but there's something wrong with the Performance Center process it seems.

 

[Bluekaveli]

The funny thing is, next year marks 20 years of the demon! You all are going to be crying when he wins the title again! BWAHHAAAAAA!

 

[newdayrocks]

Alexa Bliss' Harley Quinn look is great. Has she been doing that on Smackdown?

 

[jmdajr]

I never got the impression he felt it was beneath him. I generally had more the impression he was generally sick and tired of the shit Vince/HHH were pulling on him.

Oh I'm sure he was sick of that. But he's given enough interviews where he pretty much no longer respected almost anything about pro wrestling.

Being bitter probbaly didn't help. He was annoyed of fuck answering any wrestling related questions.

No one has to agree with me.

 

[Toki767]

I wonder if Orton could basically sue WWE for them making Brock give him a legitimate concussion as part of the job.

 

[Tom Nook]

Alexa Bliss' Harley Quinn look is great. Has she been doing that on Smackdown?

She using that look for the first time.

 

[klonere]

Alexa Bliss' Harley Quinn look is great. Has she been doing that on Smackdown?

First time, would be cool if it was a PPV only thing.

 

[Bluekaveli]

I wonder if Orton could basically sue WWE for them making Brock give him a legitimate concussion as part of the job.

Well his dumbass agreed to it.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Ambrose will get the title again next year but he's more of a chaser than champion. Besides that, he's only 30 years old and he's already been a US, IC, MITB and WWE Champion. Styles is 39 already and his time's running out. They've gotta strike while the iron is hot. He's also the lead heel so he can win it here and be fine.

Given Ambrose's age, I'd be surprised if he's not at least a 6x world champion before he hangs it up.

I wasn't upset Ambrose lost it and I certainly expect him to capture it back in the next year. I'm glad AJ won I just thought it seems to have been a while since a brand had all Face champs. Becky, Dean, Heath and Rhyno celebrating would have been a fun opening segment.

 

[Sephzilla]

Oh I'm sure he was sick of that. But he's given enough interviews where he pretty much no longer respected almost anything about pro wrestling.

Being bitter probbaly didn't help. He was annoyed of fuck answering any wrestling related questions.

No one has to agree with me.

Yeah, I think it was a combination of being bitter about Vince/HHH and being constantly asked wrestling related questions when he was trying to move on

 

[jmdajr]

Oh they hire the tough guys, the college athletes, the ex-football guys. There's a swarm of them down in the PC right now, working away. Guys like Tino Sabatelli who has been there for more than 2 years and still has barely made it to NXT TV and by all accounts, is still pretty bad. Like Bronson Matthews who we haven't heard a peep out of for a year. Like Hugo Knox who has been there over a year and all he has to show for it is a nice course of steroids and a kind of cool dropkick and split legged moonsault. No Way Jose is the PC guy I can pick out who looks to have upside and is vaguely competent and he's an ex indie worker, as were the Revival!

Meanwhile Matt Riddle has spent less than a year on the indies, wrestling in bingo halls and is almost guaranteed to be a huge success if they don't massively fuck him up. Or this new NJPW Young Lion, Henare who looks vastly more comfortable than most of the NXT rookies I've seen.

What I'm saying is - they hire the big huge athlete dudes they used to lust over but there's something wrong with the Performance Center process it seems.

Hmm. True. But we still have the unconventional guys sneak out of that process. Much more than ever before. At least you have a chance.

 

[Mahonay]

I wonder if Orton could basically sue WWE for them making Brock give him a legitimate concussion as part of the job.

Well his dumbass agreed to it.

Yeah for god knows what reason he decided it was a fine idea and went along with it.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Alexa Bliss' Harley Quinn look is great. Has she been doing that on Smackdown?

Alexa vs Becky Hardcore Match. She brings both the bat and the mallet!

 

[klonere]

I wonder if Orton could basically sue WWE for them making Brock give him a legitimate concussion as part of the job.

That lawsuit would inevitably require concussion testing which would rule out Orton from competing ever again a la DBry.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

So the word online is that UFC 203 may have done north of 700K buys?

Maaaaaaan, Punk may not do another UFC show, but we'll definitely see other wrestlers give it a go in the next couple years.

 

[jmdajr]

So is Brock/Randy 2 still happening?

It's a house show no?

 

[klonere]

Hmm. True. But we still have the unconventional guys sneak out of that process. Much more than ever before. At least you have a chance.

Oh no doubt, 2016 is breaking barriers down. My point was more to people who complain about WWE not having some more of these legit big tough athlete types that casuals are supposedly more attracted to.

 

[blackaroni]

Orton has a concussion????

 

[Barrage]

There's a big overlap between people who hate/judge Roman for his "i'm just out here gettin' rich" comment, and whose response to Punk criticizers is "well at least he got paid".

 

[Bluekaveli]

Yeah for god knows what reason he decided it was a fine idea and went along with it.

I guess he figured he could trust Brock and/or he didn't want to seem like a diva as everyone knows him to be. Probably didn't want to upset the beast either.

So is Brock/Randy 2 still happening?

It's a house show no?

According to the report from last night, that match could possibly be canceled.

 

[jmdajr]

Oh no doubt, 2016 is breaking barriers down. My point was more to people who complain about WWE not having some more of these legit big tough athlete types that casuals are supposedly more attracted to.

That's fair.

 

[Brian_FETO]

Alexa vs Becky Hardcore Match. She brings both the bat and the mallet!

On PPVs she brings out The Harlequin Bliss

Do ya know what that means, Seth?

 

[Bronx-Man]

Maybe it makes me an asshole too, but if I was Punk I'd be fucking furious with Vince/Hunter/WWE itself. I'd be making shoot interviews every week that you can purchase now for the low price of $15.95 only on YouShoot.com

 

[Mahonay]

Orton has a concussion????

Yep, news got out just before Backlash. It's from the Lesnar match at SummerSlam. They were hoping he'd pass impact tests before his match but he failed them.

 

[SparkleMotion]

Ambrose will get the title again next year but he's more of a chaser than champion.

He's also more of a bad wrestler than a good wrestler. With how limited SmackDown's roster is, it's best to put the title on the guy who can have a good match with pretty much anyone. Give Ambrose the belt back when they redraft and he can face better wrestlers that can hide his deficiencies.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Lolpunk

Lolteampunk

Lolteamhomophobes

That is the summary of the week

 

[Mahonay]

Lolpunk

Lolteampunk

Lolteamhomophobes

That is the summary of the week

What the fuck? What is this related to?

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

According to the report from last night, that match could possibly be canceled.

Hopefully not cancelled. I need my Kane/Lesnar 14 years in the making dream match.

 

[Mahonay]

Hopefully not cancelled. I need my Kane/Lesnar 14 years in the making dream match.

WILL KANE BE LESNAR'S NIGHTMARE COME TO LIFE??

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Kane better get one more world title run. The man deserves it. Retire with the Kanearoonie, lights go out, when they come back his old mask is left in the ring.

 

[Lemmy Caution]

For Survivor Series they should do a couple 5 on 5 Smackdown vs Raw elimination matches and to give it some stakes the brand with the most total survivors overall gets a NXT draft pick.

 

[Mahonay]

Kane better get one more world title run. The man deserves it. Retire with the Kanearoonie, lights go out, when they come back his old mask is left in the ring.

Since it's WWE, Corporate Kane would show up on RAW the following week.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Since it's WWE, Corporate Kane would show up on RAW the following week.

 

[Sephzilla]

Alexa vs Becky Hardcore Match. She brings both the bat and the mallet!

My god she's attractive

 

[Fox318]

Hopefully not cancelled. I need my Kane/Lesnar 14 years in the making dream match.

It should be an Arm wrestling match.

So the word online is that UFC 203 may have done north of 700K buys?

Maaaaaaan, Punk may not do another UFC show, but we'll definitely see other wrestlers give it a go in the next couple years.

Honestly unless pay dramatically increases with the WWE you are going to see more guys give MMA a shot before they agree to work a WWE schedule with a name they don't have the rights to.

That work schedule they run with the lack of benefits probably scares more people off then they truly realize.

 

[Tom Nook]

Since it's WWE, Corporate Kane would show up on RAW the following week.

Expecting something carny like Demon Kane wrestles at SD while Corporate Kane does admin things at Raw.

 

[Bluekaveli]

What the fuck? What is this related to?

No ideer

Hopefully not cancelled. I need my Kane/Lesnar 14 years in the making dream match.

They'll probably have Big Show or someone fill in for him. I'd be pissed if it's Kane and I didn't get to see the match!

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Since it's WWE, Corporate Kane would show up on RAW the following week.

And his first title defense will be against the fake Kane.... wait, shit, Gallows is on Raw.

 

[Syder]

What the fuck? What is this related to?

AJ?

 

[Mahonay]

AJ?

Hmm, would make sense.

If we're going to do that, then we are all team racism/sexism/elitism/carnyism for watching WWE at all considering who runs it.

 

[Fantomex]

No lies detected. It's like Nash said. We are in the era of marks becoming wrestlers. Wich is fine, but the old school needed/had some kind of athletic background. Hell old school wrestlers basically get the piss beat out of them before learning how to "work." They knew they had to fight for real if they were ever called out a bar.

In this day and age WWE doesn't need tough guys like they used to.

edit: It's possible that's why guys like HHH didn't respect him. "I trained with Killer Kowalski, who the fuck did you train with?"

Granted HHH is much more open minded now.

edit: Really. Punk probbaly respected wrestling more in an Andy Kaufman manner. Great characters with massive heat.

I agree. And to add, I can't believe in this day and age how much sense Nash ends up making for so many different facets in the business where in the past he was laughed at.

 

[Cagey]

I agree. And to add, I can't believe in this day and age how much sense Nash ends up making for so many different facets in the business where in the past he was laughed at.

He was laughed at by smarks who think quad jokes are the height of insider knowledge hilarity.

Nash was wise then and Nash is wise now. Only after smartening up -- by realizing we're not smart at all and reading newsletters only makes us a different type of dumb-- do we appreciate Big Sexy.

 

[jmdajr]

I agree. And to add, I can't believe in this day and age how much sense Nash ends up making for so many different facets in the business where in the past he was laughed at.

Nash is a realist. It's not like he can never be wrong. But we all want the little guy to succeed. Just doesn't happen often.

 

[slightconfuse]

Punk made 500k

Stipe Miocic ($600,000 + no win bonus = $600,000) def. Alistair Overeem ($800,000)
Fabricio Werdum ($250,000 + $125,000 = $375,000) def. Travis Browne ($120,000)
Mickey Gall ($15,000 + $15,000 = $30,000) def. CM Punk ($500,000)
Jimmie Rivera ($24,000 + $24,000 = $48,000) def. Urijah Faber ($160,000)
Jessica Andrade ($23,000 + $23,000 = $46,000) def. Joanne Calderwood ($25,000)

He isn't getting that at some Midwestern casino

 

[Bluekaveli]

Punk made 500k



He isn't getting that at some Midwestern casino

He made what they offered Ryborg the one year lmao