serenewarfare
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I think most have been stock, except for the guys who were signed going in. Gargano's isn't for instance. Swann already had a stock theme before the CWC, so it makes no sense to give him a new one unless it was permanent.
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I think most have been stock, except for the guys who were signed going in. Gargano's isn't for instance. Swann already had a stock theme before the CWC, so it makes no sense to give him a new one unless it was permanent.
That would have been a MOTY contender, but I did enjoy the story of
TJP winning and he's a good face to put the belt on
Dr Duncan Steel
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Tozawa's theme is an underrated killer. God damn they better not fuck up the cruiserweights. So excited.
Kendrick did great in the tournament and they told a fantastic story with him.
Bluekaveli
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Bret leaving was best for business. He was slowing down the new era. I wish hunter would've left when he got depressed in 98.
Bret leaving literally was best for business as the lawyers for Vince's IPO bid told him to get rid of any big long term commitments he could to make the company look better. So Bret eventually gets pushed out in a masterful way and he gets lucky that the second biggest contract gets injured a few months later and is out for four years with little to no pay.
Hell Foley and Austin are on pre Nash leaving deals when McMahon was forced to give out the guarantees. Rock is basically a rookie. The most expensive people early on in the post Bret era are Taker, who always commanded a high but not unreasonable contract, Shamrock, who must have been paid pretty well, and Mark Henry.
Hell Foley and Austin are on pre Nash leaving deals when McMahon was forced to give out the guarantees. Rock is basically a rookie. The most expensive people early on in the post Bret era are Taker, who always commanded a high but not unreasonable contract, Shamrock, who must have been paid pretty well, and Mark Henry.
Professor Beef
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Too bad Austin had to make Bret look strong.
Bluekaveli
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Well technically lol you wouldn't have gotten that!
The Strokes
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Pretty sure they'll be their own thing like the women.
Holy shit
Sombra vs Cedrid?
What's happening with Kenny? I really like the dude but I've been reading for a while that he's not cutting it as the 'face' of NJPW.
sf2fanatic
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Yo Blue what was the backstory about that?
Bluekaveli
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Dave Meltzer called him a B+ player.
That's one of the pieces I read that tied into it but Hunter was considering going to be with Nash & Hall in 98 but they talked him out of it as they knew it was a sinking ship
The Strokes
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Just got tickets for a show at my city that has as the main event a triple threat match between Pentagon Jr, Pagano and Psycho Clown, hope it's good.
Bluekaveli
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I hope you enjoy seeing frank the clown
aaand then went to tna
sf2fanatic
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He got depressed for that? He should of took that as a compliment.
Uno Venova
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So NXT is lit again?
Bluekaveli
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Lol it doesn't say it in that article but he was depressed because he felt like he wasn't going anywhere and he missed his boys. Like the big baby he is.
Dark Ninja
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Whats up with Becky Lynch wearing a T-shirt to wrestle. Did she turn into a 50 year old WCW wrestler.
Flair's biography refers to Foley as a glorified stuntman.
Most of Lynch's wrestling wardrobe is awful. At least with a T-shirt she's hawking some merchandise.
sf2fanatic
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Damn. He stays around and now has everything
https://twitter.com/JoeyRyanOnline/status/776497803019161601
Have we talked about this? I swear indie dudes need to just not have merch because they're EMBARRASSING.
Have we talked about this? I swear indie dudes need to just not have merch because they're EMBARRASSING.
PHOENIXZERO
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That's an interesting direction
to take Nikki
I'd hope they hold off on
that until WrestleMania weekend, give Asuka a reign that reaches one night away from being a year long reign only for Ember to take it on the day (given this is a leap year that would put that on March 31st, lining up with the likely Takeover show) that would give her, her 365th day as champion.
I think Ember needs more time to build her up, she's not beating opponents in a dominating fashion yet like Asuka did but I saw they had her apparently squash Mandy but that's not anything of note. I'm hoping first they at least get her in a program with Peyton Royce and Billie Kay for a bit and loosely follow the route they went with Asuka and Emma/Dana last year, give Ember Royce at Takeover: Toronto and continue the story between the three from there.
Also hoping Nikki Cross is on a separate trajectory so Ember has someone ready to work with after the Ember/Asuka concludes as others are also hopefully built up in the mean time
I think Ember needs more time to build her up, she's not beating opponents in a dominating fashion yet like Asuka did but I saw they had her apparently squash Mandy but that's not anything of note. I'm hoping first they at least get her in a program with Peyton Royce and Billie Kay for a bit and loosely follow the route they went with Asuka and Emma/Dana last year, give Ember Royce at Takeover: Toronto and continue the story between the three from there.
Also hoping Nikki Cross is on a separate trajectory so Ember has someone ready to work with after the Ember/Asuka concludes as others are also hopefully built up in the mean time
It's sad that HHH Vs. Taker WM17 isn't canon that match is way better then the other two IMO
It's actually pretty crazy. He was the smartest one business wise
It's actually pretty crazy. He was the smartest one business wise
sf2fanatic
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Trips just needed someone to take a risk on him. So far it's successful
Well he does do MMA and he's the only one who watches Impact.
I swear the entire storyline is building to her destroying multiple women at Takeover or something.
the term attention whore is a dumb term but it absolutely applies to joey ryan
Asuka v. The Entire NXT Women's Division
They'd probably have to find some way to not include Ember Moon and keep them separate. Maybe just put her in a feud with Nikki Storm.
Then everyone else can just get destroyed by Asuka at Takeover Toronto.
The NXT women's division now is just all squash matches. Nothing competitive is happening there. Part of it is because Asuka is so far ahead of everyone else but even then their attempts to build and establish Ember, Liv, Peyton and others have been weak so far. The only way I can see Asuka losing the title now is in a multi-woman match where she either doesn't get pinned or everyone else piles on top of her.
WouldYouKindly
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These two blow my mind the fact austin still became arguably the biggest superstar ever in that short period of time is amazing imagine if he could have went full speed till 08 09.
The biggest plunder about that wcw deal its like so you have enough money to buy wcw but not enough money to buy back the actual fucking talent? Keep in mind this was the hight of wwf popularity so you know they were making bank.
I think bret not leaving has a bigger fallout then say the cliq video like you said i honestly believe wed still have owen bret would wouldnt have been injured and lets be honest he would have had bigger and better matches with vince n co.
Even with the bad neck, he was having knee problems as well. Definitely wouldn't have seen him lasting five or six more years like that. Same for The Rock. Neither had anything to prove, and the talent was dwindling. That's why Jericho leaving and coming back was something beneficial to his career.
If Bret stayed, he probably retires in 2001 or something himself. Same for Owen. And that's fine--guys need to go away sometimes and freshen up the scene. It gets tiresome with the same old act years and years in the same spots doing the same routine, aka Cena and Orton.
If Bret stayed, he probably retires in 2001 or something himself. Same for Owen. And that's fine--guys need to go away sometimes and freshen up the scene. It gets tiresome with the same old act years and years in the same spots doing the same routine, aka Cena and Orton.
FlammableD
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They're doing another Dusty tournament? Cool!
She's real good, one of the reasons I'm getting round to Stardom now is I heard she's killing it.
So I recently found out who Toni Storm is........over/under on when they inevitably sign her?
Like....bruh
BRUH
She's real good, one of the reasons I'm getting round to Stardom now is I heard she's killing it.
FlammableD
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omfg
yas (although I'm only going to night 1)
I'm 100% on the Pete Dunne as Black Tiger VIII train
WouldYouKindly
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Weren't their contracts worth more than what they actually bought WCW for? Like, millions more? Probably wouldn't have had to have paid them a bigger lump sum than their contract too for some of them, as I'm sure they would have been glad to be paid while recovering.
British Monsoon
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Stone Pitbull vs Bruiserweight, can't wait to see that one! And yeah, Pete as Black Tiger would be fucking amazing. Goddamnit, please Gedo!
BewareTheBatsie
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I'm fully expecting her to destroy Liv Morgan in a match. Or maybe I'm just hoping because so far she comes off like a bad Carmella rip-off with the voice of Mila Kunis.
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