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Sephzilla

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You gotta shake hands in ROH. Respect the Code of Honour, dammit.

Also, Delirious is probably the worst booker in ROH history, right? I mean, Pearce tried to push Brent Albright and Cornette brought in the headbangers, but at least there wasn't such apathy surrounding everything other than NJPW guys coming in.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
pearce brought in shane hagadorn

roh's issues are so far beyond booking. they've been completely pillaged for years and i don't think their booking being like 'evolve level' would fix any of their issues


i do think it's funny that czw and tna are both better booked than roh. that wwe would rather buy tna than roh.
 

Mahonay

Banned
LOL
pearce brought in shane hagadorn

roh's issues are so far beyond booking. they've been completely pillaged for years and i don't think their booking being like 'evolve level' would fix any of their issues


i do think it's funny that czw and tna are both better booked than roh. that wwe would rather buy tna than roh.
It's actually impressive how much of a laughing stock ROH have managed to become. Like it takes some serious effort to get to where they are now.
 

Cosmozone

Member
I remember seeing a bunch of swastikas when I visited Japan. It's a symbol to mark Buddhist temples. I was quite surprised they still use that symbol.
Why would you abandon a several thousand year old symbol. Some shitty recent ideology has no right to take it away from you.
 
You gotta shake hands in ROH. Respect the Code of Honour, dammit.

Also, Delirious is probably the worst booker in ROH history, right? I mean, Pearce tried to push Brent Albright and Cornette brought in the headbangers, but at least there wasn't such apathy surrounding everything other than NJPW guys coming in.

It feels like he is burned out and can't see that guys like Dalton Castle should be pushed.it also doest help they ignore every indie wrestler that doesn't pay 200 bucks for a seminar.

Plus Sinclair doesn't give a shit about them
 
One of the biggest problems with ROH is that every single one of their big shows has now become "Wow, look how amazing these New Japan guys are. They are so much better than the lowly guys we have. Aren't they awesome for gracing us with their presence?"
 

Mahonay

Banned
It's stupid to me that they haven't given Big E the WHC belt.
I wonder if he'd be in the title picture right now if New Day didn't take off like it did. Since Vince was allegedly really high on the idea of Big E being one of their future top champions.

Maybe his stock took a hit after that absolutely forgettable run with the IC belt. But that belt was cancer to anyone it touched at the time.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
dalton castle is the only positive thing i can think i've heard of of out of roh in the last decade. and i guarantee he's next on the crop for wwe to steal. and he's had more fun matches in other promotions.

matt tremont winning the czw title felt like a bigger deal than jay lethal winning the roh title. ar fox is a better heel in czw than adam cole is in roh.

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One of the biggest problems with ROH is that every single one of their big shows has now become "Wow, look how amazing these New Japan guys are. They are so much better than the lowly guys we have. Aren't they awesome for gracing us with their presence?"

when you compare their rosters, i think that would happen regardless of booking
 
Rumors have it that not only is Paige backstage for tonight's Raw but so is Luke Harper. Meltzer did say that he should be coming sooner than later.

While I'm kind of bummed he wont be on Smackdown, as long as he is far away from Bray Wyatt is fine by me. He can be a solid mid-carder and probably be more ominous than Bray is right now.

#PushLukeHarper
 
It feels like he is burned out and can't see that guys like Dalton Castle should be pushed.it also doest help they ignore every indie wrestler that doesn't pay 200 bucks for a seminar.

Surely the successes of Cedric Alexander & Tomasso Ciampa since leaving ROH should be a huge wake up call? Seemingly the only major benefit of working with ROH for top or soon-to-be top indie guys is the NJPW partnership.
 
One of the biggest problems with ROH is that every single one of their big shows has now become "Wow, look how amazing these New Japan guys are. They are so much better than the lowly guys we have. Aren't they awesome for gracing us with their presence?"

I'm not sure why they don't do what the NWA did back in the day where the champ would drop the title in the beginning of a tour and win it back at the end and no one would know.

If Adam Cole or Jay lethal pinned okada or Tanahashi would the world end? Just let the njpw get his win back on a b ppv
 
dalton castle is the only positive thing i can think i've heard of of out of roh in the last decade. and i guarantee he's next on the crop for wwe to steal. and he's had more fun matches in other promotions.

Lio Rush, as well. Would not be at all surprised to see him in Japan next year, plus more chances for ACH - he went down well with the Japanese fans in his NOAH tour.
 

Kaladin

Member
Rumors have it that not only is Paige backstage for tonight's Raw but so is Luke Harper. Meltzer did say that he should be coming sooner than later.

While I'm kind of bummed he wont be on Smackdown, as long as he is far away from Bray Wyatt is fine by me. He can be a solid mid-carder and probably be more ominous than Bray is right now.

#PushLukeHarper

#HarperStrowmanMonsterTagTeam

#GallowsAndersonWhoWhoWhoWhoWhoWhoWho?
 

Mahonay

Banned
dalton castle is the only positive thing i can think i've heard of of out of roh in the last decade. and i guarantee he's next on the crop for wwe to steal. and he's had more fun matches in other promotions.

matt tremont winning the czw title felt like a bigger deal than jay lethal winning the roh title. ar fox is a better heel in czw than adam cole is in roh.

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Dalton Castle is a treasure.

AR Fox's short stint in porn will prevent him from ever getting signed to a WWE roster.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Lio Rush, as well. Would not be at all surprised to see him in Japan next year, plus more chances for ACH - he went down well with the Japanese fans in his NOAH tour.

he did well in the lucha elite world cup. got really over during his match.

but again, lio got over in czw. not in roh. roh didn't even want him until he got over in czw. because roh has such high standards
 
he did well in the lucha elite world cup. got really over during his match.

but again, lio got over in czw. not in roh. roh didn't even want him until he got over in czw. because roh has such high standards

Gotta get over elsewhere or pay for a seminar with Brutal Bob to get an ROH shot these days, it seems. Remember when they had an eye for promising young talent? Guess that was all Gabe.
 
I'm not sure why they don't do what the NWA did back in the day where the champ would drop the title in the beginning of a tour and win it back at the end and no one would know.

If Adam Cole or Jay lethal pinned okada or Tanahashi would the world end? Just let the njpw get his win back on a b ppv

The reason is that NJPW doesn't need ROH, or at least they obviously don't think they do. They don't feel the need to ever give an ROH guy a big win because they know they have the leverage in the deal. Meltzer mentioned a while back that ROH shows without NJPW guys have drawn less recently, and he attributes that in part to the way the NJPW guys are treated like bigger stars.

At least WWE's part timers still belong to WWE and make them money all the time. ROH has "part-timers" that they can't even control.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
I remember seeing a bunch of swastikas when I visited Japan. It's a symbol to mark Buddhist temples. I was quite surprised they still use that symbol.

Although on modern maps and such, those should be reversed. Japan is also changing them up for the olympics.

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Straight-up nazi shit is there, though- I remember seeing an SS uniform hanging with a bunch of other costumes in the photo booth section of a large arcade in Aki.
 
Aoki taking overseas dates?

He's being brought over by Source specifically for a few training seminars, guess they thought they'd put a show on as well. Coffey should be an amazing opponent for him, really looking forward to that.

Also, if all goes to plan AJPW will be touring the UK early next year as well. Hopefully I can go, would love to see Akiyama in person. And young Kento.
 

Zach

Member
You know who's pretty good? Kurt Angle. Even with this love triangle thing with Triple H and Stephanie (in 2000). He's still very entertaining.
 

klonere

Banned
He's being brought over by Source specifically for a few training seminars, guess they thought they'd put a show on as well. Coffey should be an amazing opponent for him, really looking forward to that.

Also, if all goes to plan AJPW will be touring the UK early next year as well. Hopefully I can go, would love to see Akiyama in person. And young Kento.

Holy shit I wanna go to this AJPW tour so bad. Hope it comes together. Cool enough that Aoki is coming over in any case.
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
TNA has gotten more people to pay attention to them with the Matt Hardy/Final Deletion stuff than ROH has done with anything this year.
 
Holy shit I wanna go to this AJPW tour so bad. Hope it comes together. Cool enough that Aoki is coming over in any case.

Yeah, fingers crossed - the promoter's not exactly the best (he was the guy who messed up his end of the NJPW tour a couple of years back, so RevPro had to hastily add a second date to cover for it) but it will be awesome if it all comes together.
 
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