FlammableD
Banned
oh here's the redebut...
fire her, hire shayna
fire her, hire shayna
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Shootmember 2 Wrasslin |OT| :Shoot from the Hip When in Heated Verbal Exchanges
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oh here's the redebut...
fire her, hire shayna
Ive just noticed the guy in the bottom rights reaction to it going on. That's gold.
daemissary
Member
This kayfabe 2.0 narrative is bunk. Raw ratings are in an epic plummet and WWE is having to cancel good programming like Talking Smack because they have to make budget cuts.
All because executives have convinced themselves that X-PAC heat is real heat.
UrbanDandy
Member
One of the great Botchamania endings.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
bad boys of wrestlingLuger also contributed to one of the worst things in Sting's career
FlammableD
Banned
hero vs ally black yes please
BewareTheBatsie
Member
so is her entire gimmick that she fights mma?oh here's the redebut...
fire her, hire shayna
like even in promos she's all I'M GONNA GET THE ARMBAR
She should come back as an MMA zombie. There's a gap since Taker retired.
serenewarfare
Banned
There's actually really good story to be told with Sonya if they have Shayna show up and squash her with a better version of her own gimmick. Her doubting herself, reinventing herself, etc.
FlammableD
Banned
actually, sure, that sounds interesting.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Not following what you mean - kayfabe 2.0 is real but it has nothing to do with ratings drops, canceling shows that aren't adding a lot of value for the cost. Unrelated.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
My favorite Zach picture is the Arquette subtitles.
daemissary
Member
People don't want to see Steph get destroyed by Rousey. They don't want to see Steph at all. Therefore they turn off the channel.
It's really not that hard to follow.
You think TS was cancelled for budgetary reasons?
That, too.
SilentMike03
Neo Member
I think this post nails it. Yes people got mad at Steph for the perceived burying of people on the roster. You can make the argument that Steph has heat with smarks (which I would disagree with), but tell me this - who benefits if Ronda beats Steph? Fucking nobody, that's who.
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Deleted member 47027
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But she hasn't been around, so...?
Sorry, TS was canceled for not serving the company's best interests. And it wasn't. Not even close was it good for WWE to have. As a fan who likes to peek behind the curtain, it was great. As a fan who wants more development from their characters, it was wonderful. But it ran counter to what the company wants.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
MMA Gimmick in 1998:
IM GONNA SNAAAAAAAAAP!
Brother, this was happening back in 96
Hi imbask. I'm not Sunny. Call me...Nighty.
UrbanDandy
Member
Luger also contributed to one of the worst things in Sting's career
He convinced Sting to go into nWo Wolfpack?
FlammableD
Banned
I'm glad they let Ohno wear the shirts untucked now. It's a better look that the body tight singlet they made him wear before. Should still just be in tights IMO, but whatever.
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Deleted member 47027
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Baszler and Rousey benefit. One's a new rising star and the other is brought in for star power to help the former.
Thanks Menome, you're a true friend
The great thing about wrestling is that with the right talent and right presentation, any mode of storytelling can work, be it comedic, sports like, Memphis style, Russo-esque or even this "kayfabe 2.0" stuff Sunny is talking about.
But uh, it's the WWE trying it so LOL.
EDIT: and that Cena/Reigns segment was kayfabe 2.0 as fuck and it was lame lame lame lame lame lame awful shit
But uh, it's the WWE trying it so LOL.
EDIT: and that Cena/Reigns segment was kayfabe 2.0 as fuck and it was lame lame lame lame lame lame awful shit
half a moon
Banned
He still looks bad either way
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
It still works. People like to pretend they're not a part of the giant WWE machine, but they usually are. Even if you're viewing it from the outside, it's a contribution.
And yeah, agree completely. Works is works.
serenewarfare
Banned
If it's Shayna that beats Steph and goes on to be a full-time monster heel, that's fine. Although beating Steph would make her a babyface.
If it's Rousey that beats Steph and then retreats to the Brock schedule and only ever squashes people, that's bad.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
thinking tomorrow's smackdown looks to be fucking awesome but then remembering ziggler will have another time wasting ten minute segment
Mick Foley had knee replacement surgery today:
https://twitter.com/RealMickFoley?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
Basically replacing all his body parts he damaged from his wrestling style.
https://twitter.com/RealMickFoley?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
Basically replacing all his body parts he damaged from his wrestling style.
I know, daemissary said it was down to budget though, which it wasn't.
serenewarfare
Banned
Foley is more prosthetic than man at this point.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Anything that Shayna can piggyback off of is good. People can use as much help as they can get.
serenewarfare
Banned
I just don't think Shayna gains much from being "the friend/partner of the person who beat Steph". In that way she'll come off as more of a lackey than her own person.
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Deleted member 47027
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Maybe not, but I really don't think she has the charisma that she'd need on her own. So it can't hurt, in my eyes. And hey, WWE wants to sell tickets, so that benefits all WWE from using Ronda.
FlammableD
Banned
This is the ideal male body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like
daemissary
Member
A) She hasn't been around since Mania. It hasn't been all that long since she was on TV weekly.
B) I'm talking about your kayfabe 2.0 in more general terms. Same thing applies to all of the other Vince pet projects that are obviously terrible and have been on tv during that time.
C) How did Talking Smack run counter to what the company wants? It doesn't want character development to get their guys more over? Do I need to list all of the people who immensely benefitted from Talking Smack?
This is the ideal male body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like
I'm pooping and vomiting at the same time.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
God bless Walter that magnificent wrestler
Makes sense for how he worked. Hip from all those elbows off the mat and onto the concrete. Knees from doing that stupid bump on his knees hitting the metal stairs.
The only part left his brain from all those chair shots to the head and you can't replace that.
Nocturnowl
Member
thinking tomorrow's smackdown looks to be fucking awesome but then remembering ziggler will have another time wasting ten minute segment
If they want someone to get a major face pop, they should have someone come out as soon as Ziggles starts whining and just knock him out.
And then we never see Ziggler again.
FlammableD
Banned
walter is fucking dope, and so is ohno
That may be true. But that ain't peak bod, FlammableDude.
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Deleted member 47027
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Strowman is a Vince project, easily - I ain't complainin!
Regarding TS, it let certain wrasslers poke holes in other wrasslers that needed help concealing these weaknesses. Now, I'm the kind of guy who feels that if you're weak, or your promo game is shit, or if you've been booked illogically - capitalize on it if you're someone else, blow it up. And they did, on TS, quite often. Especially Bryan. In doing so, TS turned into a smark's favorite show, where you could see people "shoot" on the company and their peers, and see Daniel Bryan "clearly not want to be there" - it didn't serve the best interests of WWE as a whole, and I totally see that.