British Monsoon
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I had to google who the Iconic Duo were, so....nothing?
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TarpitCarnivore
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Here's a collection of Prime Time highlights with Bobby and Gorilla. It includes a segment where Bobby makes Gorilla go on the look out for Andre's training gym by walking in the woods with bananas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGRbK0_RHH0
Is Prime Time up on the Network? i'd sub for a month just to watch some of that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGRbK0_RHH0
Is Prime Time up on the Network? i'd sub for a month just to watch some of that.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Man the last puzzle segment in the destiny 2 raid is such a pain the ass. Im tired from trying a lot, failing, sleeping late.
Got two months free.
half a moon
Banned
Lies
Everyone be sure to watch Heenan in a weasel suit: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K4RoU7divHU
I remember that madness. Scary.There is so much late era WCW stuff that I had no idea happened
Like this near death
The WWE is a public company with deep ties to the Trump White House
IMPACT counts Neo-Nazis among their stakeholders
Sinclair is a network dedicated to Trump propaganda
http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20170916/wjar-forced-to-run-pro-trump-programs
State of your TV wrestling America.
IMPACT counts Neo-Nazis among their stakeholders
Sinclair is a network dedicated to Trump propaganda
http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20170916/wjar-forced-to-run-pro-trump-programs
State of your TV wrestling America.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
If it hasn't been posted yet here's a full video of The Brains HOF speech http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ssb8t
FlammableD
Banned
Just finished Chapter 55. A few thoughts.
- The ladder match was pretty good, but given the talent involved I think it could have been better. Felt like they were holding back a bit. It was relatively safe by 2017 ladder match standards. But I'm okay with that because the TK injury is sad enough as it is. The match was still very good and the right team won. CCK is one of the best teams on the planet right now. Anyone not watching them is missing out.
- I'm not the biggest fan of Dahlia Black, but I was kind of surprised to see her lose. She just had her big return and had all this babyface momentum. If Toni is leaving any time soon (which I think she is), this would have been the best moment to take the title off of her. Seems like they might be setting that up for Jinny though, which I'm ultimately fine with because I like Jinny more anyways.
- I am very rarely a fan of deathmatches. I think that most of the time they are lazy and easy heat. This one wasn't. It had a good story going in and that story played out well during the match. The idea of Haskins wanting to beat Havoc at his own game was nice, and it made sense that Havoc was able to win because of that. He's tested his limits, while Haskins hasn't. They did some pretty crazy stuff, but nothing that made me feel like they were being blatantly irresponsible. It's a fine line but they walked it. Overall I liked it a lot.
- I was really surprised to see Scurll. Another "wrestling in 2017" moment: An ROH guy/NJPW junior vs. a NJPW guy in a promotion co-opted by WWE. That of course leads me to the ending and aftermath. It seems like ROH/NJPW is drawing a line in the sand for the most part when it comes to talent they use working for a promotion that is allied with WWE. War Machine did a bit of a farewell last time they were here, and now Scurll. Of course, it could just be a coincidence, but I doubt it. If/when WWE puts Progress on the Network, I doubt NJPW or ROH wants their talent on there.
- The Atlas title match was insanity and I loved every second of it. Thatcher is pretty underrated, but I mostly blame Gabe's subpar and unexciting booking on that. But let's be real, this match was about WALTER and Riddle. And they delivered yet again. I am constantly impressed at how good Riddle is relative to his experience level. WALTER has the best chops in the business. The addition of Wolfgang to this scene was a great surprise. I think he'll fit in excellently.
- The 8-man was a spotfest. It was fine. The story at the end of the match and afterwards was awesome though. The turn of Dennis was a real surprise and the tease of Webster was done perfectly to lead into it.
- The main event was probably my favorite overbooked match in quite a while. It was a mess, but it had to be. The story necessitated it. BSS was not going to go down without exhausting every last trick they could possibly conjure up. They tried so many of the things they've done before to lead them to success, but none of them worked. Not on this night. Travis Banks is just too damn tough. The rope breaking added to the match to me. The whole thing was chaos, and it was all designed to work against Banks, but he overcame it all to once and for all topple the reign of BSS.
- More on Banks. Dude is probably my non-NJPW wrestler of the year right now, and only behind Okada and Omega including NJPW. He's on an absolutely incredible run right now and shows no signs of slowing down. In the past four months alone he's had great to excellent matches with ZSJ, Bate, Dunne, Riddle, Keith Lee, and Jack Gallagher. And that's not even including his BOLA stuff or the stuff he did in WCPW. I can't wait to see him against Andrews. He's the ace here.
- BSS are done here. I was thinking it going into the event. They are too big and important of characters to exist on these shows outside of the title scenes. They cause too much chaos. The story really can't support them coming back unless a major change in character or even a turn is involved, which I don't think would fit right now. And ultimately it's time for them to go. They've reigned for long enough.
- Dunne's tweet after the show essentially confirms the above point. That combined with the way he acted post-match in giving respect is as sure a sign as any that he's probably NXT full-time bound.
- Overall it was an excellent show. It needed to be the best Progress show of the year, and I think it was. It was a culmination of the biggest storyline they've probably ever had. Even if BSS are out, I think the future is bright for Progress. They've got a ton of talent to use and I think Banks as the ace champion will guarantee great matches as long as it lasts. I am very much looking forward to see what they build to try and sellout Wembley next year. They're going to need something special.
Sorry for the rambling guys, but yeah you guys should watch the show.
RE the ladder match, CCK are both working hurt at the moment.
And yeah, Jimmy's PROGRESS hardcore matches have all told really good stories. The one with Pete especially is great.
I get that a lot of people are super down on it at the moment, and I agree with klonere on Banks' win not really being as big as it should have been. I've still been really enjoying PROGRESS, but I think getting BSS out of the picture should hopefully lead to people's complaints being addressed in a roundabout way.
Anyway, I've got my Wembley tickets, so let's see what the next year builds to!
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Yes, they have a lot of Prime Time on the Network.
British Monsoon
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I'd almost worked myself into thinking they'd turn, the facepaint stuff during the 5 unit race seemed a little suspect - I still think Genki, Kanda and maybe 1 or 2 of them will form a new heelish unit.
Also, THAT MAIN EVENT!!
MOCHIZUKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!! Dunno why, I'd completely discounted his chances beforehand, so this was a huge surprise.
newdayrocks
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And Lucha Underground is owned by AAA, which does some shady shit, right?
Brian_FETO
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Brian_FETO
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Don't know if its been discussed but y'all should check out mother! if you get a chance. In a year full of pretty great movies it was maybe the pretty greatest I've seen yet
Granted, Kingsman and Blade Runner coming in hot, get in while you still can
Granted, Kingsman and Blade Runner coming in hot, get in while you still can
giancarlo123x
Banned
My CEO supports trump. What do I do
Nocturnowl
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Empyrean Heaven
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There is so much late era WCW stuff that I had no idea happened
Like this near death
In a later interview with Mike Awesome he said he was super sure that he had just killed Shaggy, so Shaggy played a rib on him by playing up how hurt he was backstage and Awesome started crying. Shaggy then revealed he was completely fine.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Should've finished the job
Empyrean Heaven
Member
And this is why I stick to wrestling from Japan...
...which is a nation that disallows immigration and refugees and is basically a far-right Asian ethnostate.
Fuck wrestling.
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Deleted member 47027
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You really shouldn't watch ANY wrestling then. Thinking Japanese wrestling doesn't have ties to sex trafficking is probably a mistake. It's bad everywhere, all the way down.
SallyIsNow
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Wait, what?
HashtagLapsed
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From what I understand yakuza is still a big part of wrestling promotions. "Helping" wrestlers to sell tickets to shows as a front for money laundering and stuff like that. A lot of stories about wrestlers being at yakuza kid's birthday parties etc.
Wrestling as a whole is shady as fuck and was founded on shady as fuck grounds.
It is actively surprising when people who work in this business turn out to not be complete scum.
ThreePiMatt
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Stardom nearly made it out of the 5 Star GP without having something foolishly heinously dangerous done. Almost.
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I was about 20 feet away from that happening. It didn't seem nearly as dangerous in person (that entrance gate is a lot lighter than it looks).
Here was my view of it, unfortunately I stopped recording because Kris Wolf was slamming someone's head into the chair in front of me.
https://youtu.be/VgxY1-EEJus
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Deleted member 47027
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Do you guys have zero concept of what all the yakuza are involved in? Though I don't think it gets worse than trafficking. Gambling, debt collection, and much more - and most-to-all wrasslin in Japan is yakuza financed or fronted in some form or fashion.
slightconfuse
Banned
So ROH has a ppv Friday
There isn't a major Japanese company or pop culture thing that the Yakuza doesn't have their hand in.
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Deleted member 47027
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Hope to see Suzuki stiff the shit out of Cody. He'll make him earn it, that's for sure...
HashtagLapsed
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And?
Nocturnowl
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You guys think that the NJPW collab in Yakuza 6 was just for shits and giggles huh? nah, Sega are just adding another layer of authenticity.
I have a pretty strong sense of all the things the yakuza is involved in, but just throwing out that Japanese wrestling is tied to sexual trafficking made it sound like there was something more specific that you were referring to. You could expect the same amount of confusion if you had said "Thinking Japanese wrestling doesn't have ties to stock market manipulation is probably a mistake".
The relevant question is always to what degree a Japanese business entity is tied to the yakuza. Almost everyone deals with them in some manner, the more pertinent question is to what degree. But it's wrestling, so the most likely answer is that your favorite promotion is tied to them more than you would feel comfortable with.
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Deleted member 47027
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Trafficking is probably the worst thing (depends on the person's thoughts) that the yakuza are tied to. Not that I'm ranking crimes, but, yknow.
It's all connected. Best to either make peace and realize that yeah, all entertainment for people like us are made by bad people, or supports bad people, doing bad things.
I remember our old member Perspicacity who enlightened me to a niche of porn that wasn't connected to awful people doing awful things, and he said he would only watch what came out of that one outlet, because he knew people were treated right and were in it without coercion or worse. I really do appreciate him informing me to this, because there's so many things out there where the safe alternative (i.e. not connected to crime or exploitation) is simply buried.
I'll just saying that they are involved in alot of stuff.
HashtagLapsed
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I know. I am just not sure how wise it is to kind of deflect from the reality of what seems to go on. It is sad and sick, but I guess it is what it is.
Same with people who take drugs. Few really think about the crimes like slavery behind it all, where the sources for MDMA are being drawn from and the madness that ends up inflicted on those communities etc etc.
Perspicacity was kind of crazy though
slightconfuse
Banned
HOLY CRAP
STARCADE IS BACK IN GREENSBORO!!!!!!
http://www.greensboro.com/blogs/got...cle_718deec5-c055-54e8-9ed1-15459279b2fa.html
STARCADE IS BACK IN GREENSBORO!!!!!!
http://www.greensboro.com/blogs/got...cle_718deec5-c055-54e8-9ed1-15459279b2fa.html
This is a holier than thou thread, so this is important