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[LectureMaster]

The pro performance mode now has hardly better fps compared to base PS5 perfomance mode.

 

[mansoor1980]

bloober in a nutshell

 

[TGO]

Seems like a fix for most games at the moment with the exception of a few(Stellar Blade)
What a mess

 

[Gonzito]

But somebody here told me that PSSR was better than DLSS

 

[kittoo]

So seems PSSR has issues with ray-tracing?

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Fantastic game. Glad I played it on PC.

 

[Nankatsu]

So the way to fix the game was to remove PS5 Pro's Key feature?

 

[Skifi28]

Seems like they introduced pro support without a single person in the team actually playing the first 5 minutes to see it was broken and now they just backpedaled by completely removing PSSR. What a well thought-out update process they have over there at Bloober. Performance also seems about the same as the base PS5 with no major visual enhancements for the pro so I have no idea what the hell they are doing, but it's not like they know either.

 

[Lysandros]

So seems PSSR has issues with ray-tracing?

Newer versions with up to date SDK's should hopefully improve the situation. Not to be overblown but there seem to be some issues with specific implementations currently, no need to deny it. It can be argued that Sony were not quite ready for launch for their algorithm. I miss the days where consoles were consoles not freaking lite PCs in dire need of of continual updates for things to work as intended.

 

[GrayChild]

The DLSS killer right there. Brought to you by the "secret SSD sauce that beats even the most high-end PCs in terms of performance" gang.

 

[lh032]

But somebody here told me that PSSR was better than DLSS

Give it sometime , it just released two weeks ago ffs

 

[LordOcidax]

But somebody here told me that PSSR was better than DLSS

 

[Fafalada]

I miss the days where consoles were consoles not freaking lite PCs in dire need of of continual updates for things to work as intended.

I miss the days when console devs actually still did QA of their updates.

 

[Gonzito]

Give it sometime , it just released two weeks ago ffs

Finish the sentence

It released just two weeks ago and it costs 900$

 

[Clear]

Am I wrong for feeling like there's more than a whiff of gate-keeping/protectionism about the way that PSSR not being perfect is being highlighted?

As if other forms of upscaling don't have their issues also, and that somehow PSSR is making previously "flawless" IQ worse.

Also...

Sorry, but I don't buy the idea that all these devs are doing the work to implement the new system and ignoring the fact that its making things worse. I mean, its not like they are being mandated to use the tech. So if the problems are so severe or striking, why would they bother when they don't have to?

It makes no logical sense.

 

[lh032]

Finish the sentence

It released just two weeks ago and it costs 900$

5090 cost 2000

Huzah!!!!!

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Brought to you by the "secret SSD sauce that beats even the most high-end PCs in terms of performance" gang.

Wasn't the argument that the SSD + I/O system in PS5 was designed to minimize the required RAM for loading assets?

 

[Skifi28]

Finish the sentence

It released just two weeks ago and it costs 900$

PSSR costs 900$? Wow, you guys in the US got the shaft. I paid 800 euros and my PSSR even came with a console and stuff.

 

[blastprocessor]

At the end of the day they are likely not graphic developers so probably turning on/off the switches and turning dials. I wouldn't expect much to change quickly.

 

[chromatic9]

Need a PS5 Pro De-enhanced sticker

 

[Saiyan-Rox]

What a pisser.gif

 

[Lokaum D+]

but i thought PSSR was flawless, the best tool for consoles after MS power of the cloud thing.

 

[Stu_Hart]

$700 game-changer some here have said. Ouch...

 

[MaKTaiL]

GamingTech is straight up lying here. They did not remove PSSR. They just increased the base resolution to mitigate the issues. You can see there is a performance hit on PS5 Pro that runs even worse than the original PS5 version.

 

[skyfinch]

Can Sony patch $700 back into my account?

 

[consoul]

There was a bad Pro patch here. It's gone now.

Good. Bloober's first shot at Pro Support was a return to form: a bit shit. They've done the right thing and walked it back. Let's see how they go with v1.07.

We've seen with Stellar Blade and Callisto that the Pro is very capable. Bloober just gotta git gud.

 

[Justin9mm]

Seems like they introduced pro support without a single person in the team actually playing the first 5 minutes to see it was broken and now they just backpedaled by completely removing PSSR. What a well thought-out update process they have over there at Bloober. Performance also seems about the same as the base PS5 with no major visual enhancements for the pro so I have no idea what the hell they are doing, but it's not like they know either.

They should change their name to Blooper, am I right!?

 

[ArtHands]

change log: removed PSSR to fix performance issue

 

[Thief1987]

Am I wrong for feeling like there's more than a whiff of gate-keeping/protectionism about the way that PSSR not being perfect is being highlighted?

As if other forms of upscaling don't have their issues also, and that somehow PSSR is making previously "flawless" IQ worse.

Also...

Sorry, but I don't buy the idea that all these devs are doing the work to implement the new system and ignoring the fact that its making things worse. I mean, its not like they are being mandated to use the tech. So if the problems are so severe or striking, why would they bother when they don't have to?

It makes no logical sense.

Well, there is no any logic, just pcmr clowns being petty.

 

[Big Baller]

It is time to jump in Vick

 

[Zathalus]

GamingTech is straight up lying here. They did not remove PSSR. They just increased the base resolution to mitigate the issues. You can see there is a performance hit on PS5 Pro that runs even worse than the original PS5 version.

Digital Foundry confirmed that PSSR was removed in the performance mode. It is around 1008p upscaled via TSR.

Quality mode still has PSSR but looks the exact same as patch 1.05.

 

[Hookshot]

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[Physiognomonics]

So seems PSSR has issues with ray-tracing?

It has issues with the whole software based Lumen suite.

 

[saintjules]

PSSR costs 900$? Wow, you guys in the US got the shaft. I paid 800 euros and my PSSR even came with a console and stuff.

? Not sure if /s It's $699 in the US.

 

[adamsapple]

But somebody here told me that PSSR was better than DLSS

It is time to jump in Vick

Careful, he's gonna post that cropped TLoU water tower comparison picture again.

(nothing but love, Vick)

 

[kaizenkko]

I'm not a fan of mid-gen consoles, but I think it's good that Sony could test PSSR in the PS5 Pro. PSSR2 hopefully will be better in the PS6.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Back to FSR 1.0

 

[adamsapple]

Back to FSR 1.0

Thankfully, no.

TSR is probably the best software based image reconstruction option right now. Very good quality and a lot less fuzz compared to FSR2 in motion.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Seems like this feature wasn't ready for prime time across all games.

All those users that were waiting to play this game on PS5 pro. It's a major shame.

Also, another example of the digital future. Can't even play the disk version..... :/

 

[Vick]

I'm shocked PSSR isn't perfect..

On a game that was filled with all kinds of IQ issues and ghosting with DLSS and displayed the same AO flickering using hardware lumen..

PSSR isn't perfect, but Thread is unnecessarily the shitshow.

Am I wrong for feeling like there's more than a whiff of gate-keeping/protectionism about the way that PSSR not being perfect is being highlighted?

As if other forms of upscaling don't have their issues also, and that somehow PSSR is making previously "flawless" IQ worse.

Also...

Sorry, but I don't buy the idea that all these devs are doing the work to implement the new system and ignoring the fact that its making things worse. I mean, its not like they are being mandated to use the tech. So if the problems are so severe or striking, why would they bother when they don't have to?

It makes no logical sense.

You are spot on, unsurprisingly..

 

[Topher]

Good. The Pro patch wasn't ready. How did Blooper not see that?

 

[Rippa]

They should remove PSSR from quality mode too.

What the fook Bloober?!

 

[Euler007]

Looks like Bloober organized this year's retard parade.

 

[Markio128]

I’ve seen some excellent upgrades using PSSR (Stellar Blade being one), so I’m not going to jump on the PSSR hate wagon.

And I won’t be buying SH2 until Bloober sort their shit out.

 

[AngelMuffin]

 

[Fake]

Wait a sec...

The patch removed PS5pro from PS5pro?

 

[adamsapple]

Good. The Pro patch wasn't ready. How did Blooper not see that?

In their restless dreams, they saw that town.

Shimmering Hill

 

[marquimvfs]

I'm shocked PSSR isn't perfect..

On a game that was filled with all kinds of IQ issues and ghosting with DLSS and displayed the same AO flickering using hardware lumen..

PSSR isn't perfect, but Thread is unnecessarily the shitshow.


You are spot on, unsurprisingly..

Bbbut DLSS is better than native! How dare you!

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

The tweet sounded awfully like "yup, game fixed, yay!" so I wouldn't be shocked if this was it. I hope not but good lord. The game is entirely too good, and good-looking, to get such lousy treatment.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

The tweet sounded awfully like "yup, game fixed, yay!" so I wouldn't be shocked if this was it. I hope not but good lord. The game is entirely too good, and good-looking, to get such lousy treatment.

That's Bloober team for you mate - and this is the reason why I was always contrary to them remaking this game.

After the original whoo-haaaas of the initial release after it receiving good reviews, we're back to "Bloober are hacks" and for a good reason.

One of the most technically incompetent developers out there and that's being polite...