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Silicon Valley - Season 2 of the hilarious Mike Judge comedy series - HBO Sundays

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Blackhead

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LeleSocho said:
The problem with this show is that they found the magical and breakthrough product that is the key of their success in the finale of the first season.
Once you go that route the viewers feel the need to see them succeed and making the wait longer only angers them. I would've had no problems if all the stuff that they are going through happened when they were still non competitive with the big guys.
I'm still enjoying the show but if this goes on for much longer i might stop watching it.

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I liked the delete key thing, it's totally unrealistic but who cares, the show isn't an accademic paper on computer science.
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Well viewers are stupid. The best thing about this thread is the schadenfreude from all the whining recently. Fact is even with a amazing technical breakthrough, there is never any guarantee that a company will succeed. 90% of startups fail (90% of the ones that succeed had to pivot)
90% of statistics are made up
. I would love it if Silicon Valley had the gall to write off Richard and co at the end of this season. Jin Yang turns to shine. But they'll probably have Richard return to save Gavin and Nuclei as has already been suggested here
 
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Megasoum

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The whole time I was expecting them to have forgotten to close the garage door and the dude was simply standing in the driveway destroying servers lol.
 
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ViperVisor

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The lolz were delivered well.

But the how to F the deal up was less smart than this show should do.

I'm no tech wiz but this seems good enough to fool me and 90% of the audience vs what they did.

Have the files need to be given an encryption along the way because if it was 9000 hours that was lost *seems too big* and that wasn't all of it, You don't want millions and millions of dollars of stuff to be able to fit on a thumb drive.

Something like a Russ is goofy enough to make the bottle of his , , , tequila out of a super expensive and fragile crystal.

So it breaks and spills onto the computer that is handling the encryption. And the Porn files don't nonsensically get deleted but the error it caused will have it be months before the encryption can be broke and all the files can be sorted out.
 
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Grikker

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Kyuur said:
I was thinking the same thing when I watched it, but thinking about it some more... Storage is expensive, uncompressed 4k video is huge and the company was trying to save costs wherever possible due to lost revenue streams. I can definitely see the lack of backups being a dumb management decision.
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Tape is cheap and so is SATA based object storage. Nonetheless, this is a tv show and thinking about realism shouldn't be a consideration.
 
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PHOENIXZERO

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Jin Yang becoming a huge success as the Pied Piper crew keeps tripping themselves up would just make sense to me with the way this show goes.
 
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El Daniel

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Syph Medwes said:
Are you guys nuts? Last episode was amazing. Best joke had to be when they're pitching the app and they bring up how paedophiles could use it and Erlich says "yea they don't tend to be early adopters" holy shit lol
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Yeah, lot of negativity here. I thought the whole episode was hilarious.
 
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kiguel182

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mmazurkiewicz said:
Typical Neogaf. I come in here and people are hating the episode because of the delete key scene.
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Is people complaining about a scene that makes no sense that weird?

You can't make a show that likes to be present itself as realistic when it comes to computer s and then use something that is as worst as "zoom in and enhance".

Also, my biggest problem was Richard and how dumb he is anyway.
 
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Arkeband

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Grikker said:
Tape is cheap and so is SATA based object storage. Nonetheless, this is a tv show and thinking about realism shouldn't be a consideration.
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Except the reason Silicon Valley is considered "genius" by critics is because it's funny and it's realistic.

I'm a software dev and my best friend works at a startup making an app that opposes Uber (so it's currently going through its own death throes) and every episode has rang so true to us, from the seemingly counter-intuitive negging to the stereotypical developers they've interviewed. Mike Judge has people on-set to make sure that things don't sound stupid and he worked in SV himself.

Last episode felt like they told all the consultants to go home, they've got this. Let's play some Playstation with Xbox controllers while its making Atari sounds, everyone!
 
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Ikuu

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I think we should boycott the show unless we receive an apology and a guarantee that no future episode will prioritise humour over reality.
 
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Cornballer

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Also:

- Mike Judge on the Nerdist podcast this week (minor spoiler for later this season in the podcast)
Mike Judge (Beavis and Butthead, Silicon Valley, Office Space) chats with Chris about going from the real Silicon Valley to making TV shows, what inspired him to get into animation, and his cartoons in the Spike and Mike Festivals! He also talks about where Cornholio came from, coming up with the story for Office Space, and casting everyone in Silicon Valley!
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GorillaJu

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Think people are being too harsh. It was an above average episode in a very above average series. Still funny, still good, just not as great as the last two eps.
 
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Ramma2

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Grikker said:
Tape is cheap and so is SATA based object storage. Nonetheless, this is a tv show and thinking about realism shouldn't be a consideration.
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While usually I agree, it was just a few days ago that a short was posted about the show and how much work they put on keeping the tech real. Researchers at Stanford, actual bitcoin mining rigs, all the math on the white board, etc etc. Then for them to pull the delete key crap just goes against everything they seem to be working for.
 
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turtle553

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Ramma2 said:
While usually I agree, it was just a few days ago that a short was posted about the show and how much work they put on keeping the tech real. Researchers at Stanford, actual bitcoin mining rigs, all the math on the white board, etc etc. Then for them to pull the delete key crap just goes against everything they seem to be working for.
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All it would have taken was one line of dialog saying they had full server access and it was why they were so paranoid. Not technically accurate, but enough to cover the delete key thing.
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
The problem isn't that they keep failing (although it is getting tiring), it's that a bottle on the delete key is the stupidest thing ever in a show that is supposed to be about the tech sector.

It's like watching people reroute the IP to hack a firewall on CSI or whatever.
 
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chris121580

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firehawk12 said:
The problem isn't that they keep failing (although it is getting tiring), it's that a bottle on the delete key is the stupidest thing ever in a show that is supposed to be about the tech sector.

It's like watching people reroute the IP to hack a firewall on CSI or whatever.
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Give me a break. They've clearly made Russ out to be an idiot so it's hilarious that he was the cause of the issue. The fact people expect this show to be so true to the "tech sector" is laughable.
 
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firehawk12

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chris121580 said:
Give me a break. They've clearly made Russ out to be an idiot so it's hilarious that he was the cause of the issue. The fact people expect this show to be so true to the "tech sector" is laughable.
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Would have been better if he just left his car in neutral and it crashed into the server farm in the garage and took everything down during the transfer. At least that would have been a plausable reason for it all to fail other than holding down a delete key.
 
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kiguel182

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chris121580 said:
Give me a break. They've clearly made Russ out to be an idiot so it's hilarious that he was the cause of the issue. The fact people expect this show to be so true to the "tech sector" is laughable.
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It's not about Ross being an idiot. Is the fact that you have a terminal window doing a transfer running and pressing delete somehow deletes files everywhere and "locks people out of it".

Even if the delete did that you would just have to press ctrl c to stop the process.

Makes no sense.
 
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chris121580

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I guess I can look past the fact this show is strictly for entertainment purposes and throw any sense of reality out the window when I watch it.
 
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Shanlei91

Sonic handles my blue balls
While the scene was ridiculously unbelievable, I laughed because the number one reason for someone being locked out of their computer in my office is that they have something sitting on their Enter key.
 
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soleil

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Veritigo_X said:
I knew people on gaf would be complaining about that scene as soon as I saw it, haha. It's a TV show guys. Laugh.
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The problem isn't that the delete key scene isn't "TV appropriate."

The problem is that that scene is inconsistent with the rest of the show.
 
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aku:jiki

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Veritigo_X said:
I knew people on gaf would be complaining about that scene as soon as I saw it, haha. It's a TV show guys. Laugh.
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I'm incapable of not noticing things like this. Doesn't mean that I'm some grump who can't have fun, I can have tons of fun with this show, but I am unable to not notice when things are glaringly stupid and this scene was exactly that.

It doesn't help that it was another bummer in a long string of bummers for Pied Piper and many of us feel like they need to catch a break soon.

Kanik said:
While the scene was ridiculously unbelievable, I laughed because the number one reason for someone being locked out of their computer in my office is that they have something sitting on their Enter key.
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I'm not sure I've ever seen a computer locked down by a keystroke... How would a computer like that handle keyboard shortcuts?
 
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Veritigo_X

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soleil said:
The problem isn't that the delete key scene isn't "TV appropriate."

The problem is that that scene is inconsistent with the rest of the show.
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aku:jiki said:
I'm incapable of not noticing things like this. Doesn't mean that I'm some grump who can't have fun, I can have tons of fun with this show, but I am unable to not notice when things are glaringly stupid and this scene was exactly that.

It doesn't help that it was another bummer in a long string of bummers for Pied Piper and many of us feel like they need to catch a break soon.
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Since the main character overhauls his whole platform based on a discussion about dudes jacking eachother off, I give other things in the show a pass. It bothered me for a second but I got over it because it's a TV show.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a computer locked down by a keystroke... How would a computer like that handle keyboard shortcuts?
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It wasn't the computer that was locked down, it was the server.
 
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soleil

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Veritigo_X said:
Since the main character overhauls his whole platform based on a discussion about dudes jacking eachother off, I give other things in the show a pass. It bothered me for a second but I got over it because it's a TV show.



It wasn't the computer that was locked down, it was the server.
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Main character is supposed to be a genius who came up with a new way of approaching the problem. That's consistent with the rest of the show.
 
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eznark

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Given the power draw from their garage based server farm it's completely ludicrous to think the municipal government would not have shut them down by now for zoning violations.

Show is unrealistic. Will not watch.
 
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soleil

Banned
eznark said:
Given the power draw from their garage based server farm it's completely ludicrous to think the municipal government would not have shut them down by now for zoning violations.

Show is unrealistic. Will not watch.
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Gilfoyle bypassed the meter.
 
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soleil

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Demon Ice said:
A way which involves a compression algorithm that is literally magical
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New tech always seems magical when it's first introduced. Not surprising not out of line with the rest of the show. The very pilot of the show had people amazed with his work. It's the premise of the show, so it's not out of line.

The delete key scene is not consistent with the rest of the show.
 
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TheOctodad

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BocoDragon said:
This is a show about a scrappy startup and the many ups and downs at that level. Why exactly do you think it's supposed to be getting somewhere?

As Vyer says above, there's room to have the "successful" pied piper company later on, but that will be a different thing entirely and they will have left "startup" jokes on the table if they rush there.
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Both can happen, but the problems and comedy need to occasionally come from successes (or at least what they perceive as a success that actually become a burden). Right now, how have they made any forward momentum whatsoever? You could have cut most of this season because there is ZERO progress being made in the story.

I still love this show, but they've got to be more creative at their development of plotlessness or it's going to get old fast.
 
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markhimself46

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Very torn on that scene. I quite enjoyed the episode and love the show so much, but that seemed overtly inconsistent with the level of realism that the show has established. But at the same time, I realize it's just a show. I guess I just didn't want to admit that "it's just a show" because I hold it in such high regards.

Silicon Valley is about nerds, by nerds, for nerds. That scene seemed very "mass audience." If that even makes sense...Sorry, just rambling here haha.
 
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Megasoum

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I don't mind the Delete joke... I mean it's not the best writing for sure but I really don't mind.

I still think this was a meh episode compared to the last 2-3 weeks.
 
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dragonelite

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soleil said:
New tech always seems magical when it's first introduced. Not surprising not out of line with the rest of the show. The very pilot of the show had people amazed with his work. It's the premise of the show, so it's not out of line.

The delete key scene is not consistent with the rest of the show.
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The delete key scene was a bit meh and stupid imo.

But the rest is pretty cool, i can even relate to things as a real life software engineer.
Like that episode where they introduced scrum :p
 
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deltatheta

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You kind of have to give the writers a little latitude. The plot required the company to fail in a spectacularly stupid way. There's definitely technical reasons that could have happened in real life, but it's hard to come up with one that doesn't require explaining a ton of technical details to the audience.

Can anyone think of any? I'd say you'd need to come up with a scenario with these qualifications.

1. Takes place over a short period of time
2. Visually interesting and dramatic
3. Doesn't require explaining a huge volume of technical information to understand
4. Causes a huge amount of damage that undeniably results in Pied Piper failing the bake-off.
(The plot already dictates that this has to happen in the process of compressing a large volume of high resolution video files.)

The delete key thing was pretty dumb, but I'm not sure how much better you could do.
 
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Shanlei91

Sonic handles my blue balls
deltatheta said:
The delete key thing was pretty dumb, but I'm not sure how much better you could do.
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I was expecting the hacker guy to sneak into the house and do something while they outside with Russ. Something practical to counter the non-technical nature of lifting the sticky note off the desk with the password.

Russ' reaction was worth it though. The way he didn't react immediately was completely authentic to how a guy like that would react.
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
Kanik said:
I was expecting the hacker guy to sneak into the house and do something while they outside with Russ. Something practical to counter the non-technical nature of lifting the sticky note off the desk with the password.
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Honestly, having someone trip on the power cord and interrupt the transfer process would have been more acceptable.
 
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