jakonovski
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At this point I'd say this is the best game launch of all time. And I got the game day 1.
SimCity modded so it can be played offline indefinitely + editing of highways
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At this point I'd say this is the best game launch of all time. And I got the game day 1.
How the hell would your tin cans work if they're not connected to the wall?
This is why you always change your position before everyone else figures out that you're wrong.
He must know that he was wrong about it, and that's okay. What puzzles me is that he hasn't disengaged, or admitted he was wrong.
There is no pleasant endgame for what he is doing now.
He must know that he was wrong about it, and that's okay. What puzzles me is that he hasn't disengaged, or admitted he was wrong.
There is no pleasant endgame for what he is doing now.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
I don't think the D3 drm has anything relative to do with this debacle.
The sim city shit storm is on all fronts lol
I can't think of one being worse, not even Diablo.
And the funny thing is, for the most part, I actually really enjoy playing SimCity.
picklecannon
Member
SimCity 5 is easily the most entertaining game that I have never played.
Ace Harding
Member
Oh boy. I am one of the last people to go out talking S on journalists, and usually give them the benefit of the doubt. I think there are a lot of good writers out there, and I don't think there's any real "corruption" out there worth discussing.
But this is ridiculous.
I generally like Arthur. I still listen to Rebel FM. Sure he's opinionated and I don't always agree with him. Sure he sticks his foot in his mouth sometimes and is very reluctant to admit when he's wrong. But to continue to insist that this game can't work without always being online is absurd. Its been proven false. Maxis could modify this game to be played offline. Who cares if you wouldn't have the multiplayer functionality working. That didn't exist in any prior SimCity, and they were all great single-player games. You don't need it to play the core game.
Arthur, I know you are reading this thread. I implore you, STOP. You are damaging your reputation. I'm sure you're aware of how important that is in your business.
At the very least, stop insisting that it can't be done if you don't know for sure that's the case. If you know why it won't work, report it. Until then, the story should stick to the facts.
But this is ridiculous.
I generally like Arthur. I still listen to Rebel FM. Sure he's opinionated and I don't always agree with him. Sure he sticks his foot in his mouth sometimes and is very reluctant to admit when he's wrong. But to continue to insist that this game can't work without always being online is absurd. Its been proven false. Maxis could modify this game to be played offline. Who cares if you wouldn't have the multiplayer functionality working. That didn't exist in any prior SimCity, and they were all great single-player games. You don't need it to play the core game.
Arthur, I know you are reading this thread. I implore you, STOP. You are damaging your reputation. I'm sure you're aware of how important that is in your business.
At the very least, stop insisting that it can't be done if you don't know for sure that's the case. If you know why it won't work, report it. Until then, the story should stick to the facts.
I decided to take a look at what said competition was up to, hoping that he was taking a reasonable stance on the issue and making me confident to take back that comment.
Nope.
(So, *is* JW 'one of the most hated guys in the industry'? And, well, why? Could it possibly be an unwillingness to toe the line?)
Uhm, we have the full game emulated offline. The only part they can't do is multiplayer, since you know, you cant play with other people offline :lol
BolognaSoup
Member
Haha same. But simultaneously frustrating/heartbreaking because I wanted this game to be amazing. It's not even really a SimCity game at all.
lolygon, keep digging moron.
Congrats to EA and Maxis for their victory against the pirates! Those lucky people who actually paid for the game and couldn't play it should be very happy to hear that. If they aren't they must be "entitled gamers".
D3 problems werent only DRM, it were missing features, bad designed systems, balance, story, end-game, auction house problems, bots and gold, pr problems etc
There was a ton of controversy.
But hey, if You dont remember those, then Maxis dont have to anything to worry about, people will forget in a year.
I was playing Diablo III in multi-hour sessions the day after it came out. (Although I heard it was much worse for EU than NA).
It wasn't that bad, not even close to the same level as this SimCity disaster.
Pureauthor
Member
DIablo III was a disappointing game.
Sim City is a broken game.
That's the difference.
Sim City is a broken game.
That's the difference.
I thought D3 was overblown, honest, but I did understand the vitriol, and it was an undeniably rocky launch. D3 underwhelmed as well, but it still got like 20hrs out of me, so that's decent 'cause I was never a Diablo or a loot fan anyway.
But SimCity seems uber broken in terms of gameplay. At least D3's design choices were conscious, and I understand their motives, but SC5's agent logic is just trash.
Raven77
Member
Nice. Forgot about them.
Nostalgic Nightmare
Member
People NEED to start minding. Set a precedent and don't buy games that have this shit people.
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GlamFM
Banned
I really dont understand why he is still fighting for the game. He was screwed just as we were - maybe even more so.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
The important thing is that blizzard knew how to handle things much better from a pr stand point.
It doesn't help EA that they have been dare I say hated as a company for a good while.
And yeah I do agree that D3 has been disappointing, I expected much more.
Interfectum
Member
Origin (THE REAL ORIGIN).
Get dat PR job.
plutoknight
Member
Said exactly what I was going to say. SimCity is just an all-around mess, from design to execution. Diablo III was significantly less so (even if it was still underwhelming)
Voice of Reason
Banned
Maybe he can ban him off GAF so we don't have to read this filth again.
Risible
Member
That's what these publishers would like to believe, but it's not true. It's just that the consequences come about so gradually that it's like the frog in warm water analogy, it's too slow a process for them to see the consequences before it's too late.
Using the D3 example, after having been burned by pre-ordering D3 and learning the hard way I canceled my Heart of the Swarm pre-order. I'm waiting for it to drop into the $20 range and then picking it up. They squandered a decade of customer loyalty they had built up in me in one fell swoop.
EA generated so many problems for me with its new Origin client and Battlefield 3 that I vowed to never buy an EA product at full retail again. Now I wait for the bargain bins and then grab things. I suspect a lot of other people are following my lead.
EA and other anti-consumer companies are poisoning the well.
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Deleted member 17706
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How in the world could John Walker be one of the most hated guys in the industry? He's one of the very few people out there who calls companies out on their bullshit.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
I think Eve has it beat. It is more entertaining to read about Eve than actually play it from what I hear.
SteveWinwood
Member
They bought them way back because maxis ran out of all their money.
So they wouldn't have even existed and made simcity 4 if ea wasn't around.
Ace Harding
Member
I would venture to say that being a well-respected "gamer-friendly" publisher and being a publicly-traded company are mutually exclusive. I just don't think it can be done. You can't chase growth quarter after quarter without looking for more juice to squeeze. I'm not saying its bad to be corporate, but that is always going to hurt your reputation among your core consumers. Shareholders are not going to be forgiving when you give up a quarter (or year) of earnings growth for the good of the next product, or when you decide not to milk every penny you can out of popular franchises because you feel they have peaked.
"Fuck that loser" ? :>
Or completely ignore whole feedback they've had about itemization and balance? And they said sorry in every dev blog when they were trying to change something in favor to earlier players comments. It seems about the same for me.
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BTW its funny that John Walker is so aggressive about Gies and offline story when he was in GDC 2012 SimCity conference where Maxis devs told everyone how multiplayer works [city is calculated on PC, regions and cities interactions on servers].
I love games journalism ;\
T-minus 5 minutes 'til he whips out the 'e' word.
Amen.
Judging by sales charts I'll say EA is making a mint and SimCity is a huge success.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Ubisoft learned their lesson quickly after dipping their toes into the shitty DRM pool and they're doing fine now. The big Japanese publishers are publicly traded as well and most of their reputations are more or less intact. WB Games is also well regarded. Edios under Square should count. Etc.
Palette Swap
Member
Motherfucking Origin. They even soiled the name.
That's all we're missing. That word embodies everything that is wrong with this industry. Anyone spouting it to defend bad business decisions is nose deep in corporate ass.
Take heed, though, if Walmart is nearer, you'll go there instead.
No, mate. D3 hugely benefited from Blizzard fanbase/D2 fanbase (which are FAR larger than SimCity) and initial sale proves it, but that's about it.
They were awful at handling PR and game no longer has the amount of fan it once commanded. If D4 comes out I don't think people will buy it like they did with D3.