The save button contacts the server, it does not make a local save file. Rewriting that could be significantly difficult for modders but it's not entirely impossible. All the simulation and work is done locally, which is the kicker here. All that is needed now is to just tell the game to read progress locally and not from a server.
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SimCity |OT| It's not the simulation or city that matter, it's <parameter: string>
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BigJonsson
Member
Ugh, I think my city is lost forever 
Just as everything was looking good
Oh and I had built a recycling plant, but it said there were no recyclables? How do I get my sims to recycle?
Just as everything was looking good
Oh and I had built a recycling plant, but it said there were no recyclables? How do I get my sims to recycle?
Ugh, I think my city is lost forever
Just as everything was looking good
Oh and I had built a recycling plant, but it said there were no recyclables? How do I get my sims to recycle?
The High School is what teaches recycling to educated sims, as far as I understand. At least it is the only school building that says so in it's description. In my cities, recycling has only started to appear after I've plopped both a High School and Recycling Center.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Built a park-n-ride for my city last night. Had a few neighborinos from my GAF buddies come pay a visit:
Traffic was stuck like this for 15 minutes before I finally deleted the bus stop.
lmao
I didn't build that many buses, really. I only have about 6 or so. Those are the generic municipal tourist buses.
HAMSTER INVASION!
Of course, I suppose the busses weren't as irksome as the army of arsonists that came from your city.
BigJonsson
Member
Hmm, I should expand my high school if my game comes back =/
rangersfan414
Member
Ugh, I think my city is lost forever
Just as everything was looking good
Oh and I had built a recycling plant, but it said there were no recyclables? How do I get my sims to recycle?
Recycling trucks only work from like 4am to noon. Then you have to wait til the next day to get more recyclables.
My area has been infested with ghost criminals. I built a city, got 280k population, and then the city just fell apart so I bulldozed it all and moved onto a different region near it. Even though there was absolutely nothing left, as i bulldozed every inch. I still got 200criminals come across to my new region, and it's fucked stuff up. >.<
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Of course, I suppose the busses weren't as irksome as the army of arsonists that came from your city.
Really? When I founded it, I had a bunch of criminals come in from your city, too, which led me to build Maxisman and a bunch of police.
However, I then build the Vu Tower to see what it would do, and I maaaay have "unleashed henchmen" a few too many times to test
I'm doing my best to arrest everyone in my city lol. I did have maxisman capture Vu, though. I wonder what that will do.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
The server still thinks your former city isn't bulldozed yet. Go back to it, and progress some time for a bit after you bulldozed it. It might be best to just try to build a small town in its place.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Having some oil in the ground is the best for any kind of trade city, since it lets you build oil wells.
I used the oil well's service roads to make bypasses for the delivery trucks, and it seems that it works on all forms of delivery trucks. Nice.
Not sure if this applies to the wind power service roads or the garbage truck roads.
I used the oil well's service roads to make bypasses for the delivery trucks, and it seems that it works on all forms of delivery trucks. Nice.
Not sure if this applies to the wind power service roads or the garbage truck roads.
Wait whaaaaaaaat. So you build that free dirt-road, and all delivery trucks just stroll down that road automatically? Oh, hells yeah.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It seems more like a park to me. I didn't really see much benefit to my education when using it. I remember with Simcity 4, I could notice an impact on education with the library, especially combined with the youth reading ordinance.
Yep. Just make sure that the service road path is the shortest route, otherwise they won't use it.
I made a post earlier about using pedestrian paths from the university in a similar fashion as well.
Mr. Luchador
Member
And now I'm aware that all the ordinance stuff is gone too.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Hahaha, yeah. Ordinances were fucking cool. I wish they had expanded on the concept in this game, including possibilities like custom tweaked ordinances, as well as local and region wide ordinances.
gutterboy44
Member
Oh fun, my city is rolling back. Let's see how this dice roll goes. Probability of me uninstalling this game and never coming back to it...65%.
Herpes Reasons
Banned
there was one trick where i bypassed the rollback BS.
i had two cities in the same region.
tried to go to one of the cities and got the message about the rollback/ abandon option.
so i chose the other city.
once you're in the other city, click on the region button on the bottom left.
it will bring you to the region map.
from there, click on the original city and click on "load"
boom. you're in the original city without the rollback.
it worked for me a couple of times already.
i had two cities in the same region.
tried to go to one of the cities and got the message about the rollback/ abandon option.
so i chose the other city.
once you're in the other city, click on the region button on the bottom left.
it will bring you to the region map.
from there, click on the original city and click on "load"
boom. you're in the original city without the rollback.
it worked for me a couple of times already.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Dead Prince
Banned
forever trying to load my map. so i bailed
Xane
Member
Well, if you think about.. all previous SimCities had a more statistical approach than proper simulation, it was easier to add in external factors and / or variables like ordinances.
With Glassbox, I guess they need to implement proper logic for these to work again.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It couldn't be that hard, can it? There are already statistical approaches in this game too.
The hospital addons already do things like reduce the time sims take to recover, or improve emergency response times. I don't see why ordinances couldn't have a similar effect.
The clean air ordinance could also be applied fairly easily, I'd imagine. The way the game works now is that industrial zones make freight and deliver it. Every time they do, they gain money and happiness. A pollution tax would take out a cut of the money in exchange for lower levels of emitted pollution. Or even more simply, just pay a monthly cost for a city wide reduction in the default pollution output rate of the factories.
Educational awareness ordinances could increase the amount of education units each sim receives from a day of school over the default value.
Power and water ordinances could reduce the demand for power and water from each building.
Recycling ordinances could further increase the ratio of recyclables/garbage that each sim outputs per day.
Carpooling ordinances could assign random car agents to carry two workers instead of one.
Public transportation ordinances could expand the range of pedestrian foot traffic.
etc.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
New blog.
http://www.simcity.com/en_US/blog/article/simcity-update-8
Working on pathing, but it seems like they could have used a more intensive beta to nip these things in the bud earlier.
Isn't it the buildings that are persistent, and not the sims? The sims are only as persistent for the time they exist as a worker agent, shopper agent, student agent, or tourist agent, is what I thought.
http://www.simcity.com/en_US/blog/article/simcity-update-8
Working on pathing, but it seems like they could have used a more intensive beta to nip these things in the bud earlier.
Isn't it the buildings that are persistent, and not the sims? The sims are only as persistent for the time they exist as a worker agent, shopper agent, student agent, or tourist agent, is what I thought.
Dreamwriter
Member
It's probably a mix of both. Most likely when a "sim" enters a building, that building gets a Sim personality packet added to it that tells the building that a sim is in the building that has 32% happiness, 500 moneys, 24 educations, etc. Then when the building needs to output a sim it goes through all the sims packets contained inside and creates a new sim for each packet.
They would have to do things like this to correctly simulate the happiness/education/etc. of sims within a particular part of town.
Yep, its definitely working this way. Building are storing general information of sims that are coming in and when they are creating new sims when they need to be send out, they fit them with one of stored properties.
Ah, how far we've come in just a couple of short months from:
Source.
He says that almost as though he doesn't realize that every Sim moves into someone's empty house, every day. That's just how it works. And "stay out all night at a night club, only to rush off to work the next morning"? The game doesn't model any of that. I remember reading tons of this sort of stuff over the past year. How about:
Source.
Yeah, no smoke and mirrors in the new Simcity, no top-down abstractions driving the behavior of your populace. They simulate the Sims, and everything flows from that.
Is there a text equivalent of a bullshot? A: YES.
I'm glad to see they're able to address some of the traffic issues, but sad to see no mention of cheetah speed. A game like this is all about experimenting, and unfortunately it simply takes too long at the moment to see how changes you've made play out. I have no doubt this game will be incredible in time though.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I'm just wondering, what's this winding road strategy that I've been reading about in news posts?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
It's a crude strategy used to take advantage of the sims' specific pathfinding. Basically, it all forces them in one single direction, so that the herd mentality of the pathfinding AI runs into as little interruptions as possible.
I actually did this in the beta, but no one seemed to think much of it at the time.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Is it possible to afford avenues when you just start off though? And does it outweigh the fact you end up losing quite a bit of real estate?
Eh...sort of. You essentially have to start small with low density, and then gradually expand and upgrade.
Retail is the new beta, that's great!
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
zomg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVkw9mWonNA
Faster, please. Enable this on the test server, and I am so there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVkw9mWonNA
Faster, please. Enable this on the test server, and I am so there.
Yeah me and some friends went to build an arcology and that process is bugged. For us it wouldn't update us fast enough on what amounts of things we were sending it. We still had a long way to go when I checked the great works screen.
Suddenly one of my friends got an update in game that it was finished. On my screen I had only delivered ~600 tons of metal out of 2800 and 800 tons of alloy out of 1000. It also said we had about 25,000 tvs to go. But shortly after my friend said it was done it updated for me and said it was finished as well.
Everyone was just, 'um, yay it's done... somehow.'
Then the power/water we needed to send it updated and a few minutes after that it jumped to level 8 density. I'm completely clueless on how any of this happened. It's like all this got done by magic.
What a world we live in
This is the kind of stuff that always amazes me, even if I'm also in the same industry... They spent a couple years doing some stuff, have a bunch of people doing QA and even when they release the game, something as important as the traffic system is messed up when released, but it just took them a few days to get quite done with it (even if they said it's still being developed and there's no date announcement for it).
Oh well, hopefully they fix this and many other things within the next few weeks
flashburn2012
Member
Same exact thing happened to me. Talk about anti-climatic. I just logged in and saw it was done, asked my buddy if he contributed ANYTHING to it, and he said no. I was about halfway done when I logged off earlier in the day.
Like 20 minutes later, it was fully working, and now I have something insane like 30,000 people commuting to my city.
Because it's fun and addictive, despite it's shortcomings.
I've built two cities with high density street cars right off the bat and I've had no problems. Just make sure you leave enough money to build a power plant and water tower. I usually start off with wind as it's cheap and is more than enough power for a small city at first.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Anyone know the cheapest price on this? I had a friend who got a deal from this Indian site or something like that. Not a key site but he really didn't explain. Trying to buy a gift copy for a friend. Any ideas PM please.
storybook77
Member
This along with the fire trucks issue would fix my major issues with the game right now, along with any bugs that have been found.
I really can't even fathom how it got finished. I was the only one contributing metal and alloy to it. But I set up my recycling centers/trade depots to focus mostly on the alloy to get that finished first. I had 2 metal processing centers total and like 3 metal storage lots for the trade depots
As far as I know nothing in my city would have needed to use the alloy and my alloy storage never filled up to full. You would think that f the arcology was finished with alloy it would start backing up in my city and give me a message saying the lots were full. But on my screen everything was progressing as normal. Slow but normal. Then suddenly finished.
Maybe the game pads the figures of shipped products to the great works site like it pads the population numbers?