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[Megasoum]

I got my GMG SimCity key when I bought it on March 1st. It showed up instantly on my Games and/or Keys section of the website. I never got any email warning me about it. (was hoping EA would fix my account issue on Origin so I could buy directly from them, but it's been one month since I opened my ticked and they didn't give a fuck).

Yeah they always do that. Once they get the keys a little while before release they give it right away to people who pre-order from now on but people who bought it before only get it later in a batch email.

 

[Caesar III]

Just bought it. Damn it! The key does not show up @ GMG for me though.

 

[qwerty2k]

Hope they do release Mac news soon.

 

[Got the Shakes]

Every digital order was cancelled, but I don't know how he got it for that price.

Mine didn't get cancelled either.

 

[f0rk]

Do GMG ever take their 20% codes away?

 

[Smiley90]

Do GMG ever take their 20% codes away?

Yeah they do, but then they put up new ones a couple weeks later

 

[Ghost23]

This is one game where I actually enjoy watching people livestream. It's so relaxing.

 

[LegoDad]

I'm ready, I caved because I don't see the price coming down quickly.

 

[Smiley90]

This is one game where I actually enjoy watching people livestream. It's so relaxing.

SimCity is about the epitope of non-confrontational gaming. There's no enemy, no fighting, not much demands from the game. It's great. Plus, it's not like you ruin the fun for yourself by watching it (as opposed to watching playthroughs of more linear or quest-based games).

Is TB playing again today? :x

I'm ready, I caved because I don't see the price coming down quickly.

You should've ordered on GMG, it's cheaper :x

 

[Spookie]

Is TB playing again today? :x

Rather see his wife play she's far more competent and doesn't behave like a cunt.

 

[Smiley90]

Rather see his wife play she's far more competent and doesn't behave like a cunt.

About that... from TB:

I'd heard that there were groups like this but I'd never experienced them for myself. I grew up playing a lot of management/simulation games on a very casual basis. As someone who has severe organizational issues due to dyspraxia, I enjoyed but could never master such games, but that's was ok, because single-player is where you get to express your creativity and just have fun on your own without anyone else judging you.

Until yesterday. You have to laugh really, there's no other way to handle that kind of nonsense. It's very hard to rationalize, as a grown adult, the notion that so many people would actively get upset that someone wasn't playing the videogame the way they ordained it must be played. The notion that someone who had never played that version of the game before and whose last experience with Sim City was years ago with Sim City 4 on a fairly casual basis, could play perfectly immediately without any prior experience or indeed that as someone who critiques for a living, I am not allowed to criticize any element of the game and any criticism I do have is actually my fault not the games.

It's safe to say that the subreddit does not represent the majority of Sim City players. Regardless of how obsessive or elitist those people are, the vast majority of Sim City players have always been casual. Sim City is a game with very little stress involved that is highly rewarding, in which you are never really judged by anyone outside of the game. There are no expectations beyond what your citizens and yourself impose upon you and that is a wonderful thing since there are all too many games that insist on pushing you along at their pace or require you to keep up with your team-mates. Sim City is one of the original casual games, but also happens to have great depth, this version even more so do the adoptation of specializations and supply-chain like mechanics from games such as The Settlers and Anno. Unfortunately, that also means you are going to get people that are anally-retentative who claim "YOU MUST PLAY THIS CREATIVE GAME MY WAY OR YOU ARE HITLER". Combine that with the heady and potent jealousy on display in that subreddit last night that someone less obsessive than them had access to the game that they "DIDN'T DESERVE" and you can see why last night happened.

Overall it's a lesson in what happens when fanboys go berserk and yet more in the mountains of evidence that fandom is a ultimately destructive and negative force within almost any scene.

 

[Ceebs]

About that... from TB:

And it is pretty spot on. It is one thing to get frustrated watching someone fumble around when the game is telling them exactly what to do, but to say they are playing wrong is just crazy. The most hardcore of any community that acts like that will just scare off the more casual fans. Just look at all the fighting game nonsense from last year.

 

[HoTHiTTeR]

You should've ordered on GMG, it's cheaper :x

Even with the $20 credit/gift card offer?

 

[Mengy]

And it is pretty spot on. It is one thing to get frustrated watching someone fumble around when the game is telling them exactly what to do, but to say they are playing wrong is just crazy. The most hardcore of any community that acts like that will just scare off the more casual fans. Just look at all the fighting game nonsense from last year.

Yep. I watched all three hours of TB's video, and yeah he seems extremely noobish to Sim City, while his wife seems much more competent. But it's ridiculous to get upset over that, lol. People play games their own way, and if the video upsets someone then they should just stop watching. Problem solved.

It was a good three hour vid though, the game came across very well in it and I enjoyed watching it.

 

[Smiley90]

And it is pretty spot on. It is one thing to get frustrated watching someone fumble around when the game is telling them exactly what to do, but to say they are playing wrong is just crazy. The most hardcore of any community that acts like that will just scare off the more casual fans. Just look at all the fighting game nonsense from last year.

It's funny, because SimCity is a game where it's pretty much impossible to play it "wrong". You can easily tell when somebody plays CoD/LoL/whatever wrong, but SimCity? The game is literally about making mistakes and playing around, hence the ever-so-popular disasters.

Even with the $20 credit/gift card offer?

Ooh I didn't realize you ordered physical, then never mind

Yep. I watched all three hours of TB's video, and yeah he seems extremely noobish to Sim City, while his wife seems much more competent. But it's ridiculous to get upset over that, lol. People play games their own way, and if the video upsets someone then they should just stop watching. Problem solved.

It was a good three hour vid though, the game came across very well in it and I enjoyed watching it.

I think the thing is that most people who watch live streams of SimCIty are HUGE fans of the series and waiting for release, while he admitted to never really playing it due to dyspraxia (which is, I googled, neurological problems with planning/organization), so I guess people just couldn't BELIEVE people can "struggle" with the game and make "wrong" choices, despite there being no actual wrong choices. Just let him play and enjoy himself, I say. If you don't want to watch, then don't watch.

 

[MThanded]

Where are the exclusive early reviews?

Embargo is Monday morning.

 

[EvilPengy]

What's the price for Sim City on GMG in the UK? Thinking of grabbing this and I can't check what the price is with discount atm

 

[Raticus79]

Unacceptable in this day and age.

They way they've been talking about the technical reasons behind the small areas (for example, there isn't enough memory for larger towns because the game is 32-bit instead of 64-bit), it sounds like it's going to be a much bigger deal than just a little expansion pack. At this point I'd expect that next year we'll get a full-priced "SimCity 2: Megalopolis" or some such that has higher minimum system specs but supports larger cities.

The smaller city size is to make the game more casual-friendly, I think. It could certainly limit the simulation complexity with cities divided into small chunks and abstracted out into simple production/worker/etc numbers, but I don't think that's the real driving factor behind the decision.

 

[Ghost23]

Hopefully TB streams again tonight.

 

[Smiley90]

The smaller city size is to make the game more casual-friendly, I think. It could certainly limit the simulation complexity with cities divided into small chunks and abstracted out into simple production/worker/etc numbers, but I don't think that's the real driving factor behind the decision.

Actually, hardware/engine restrictions were the main reason. See this post for reference:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48754479&postcount=1650

 

[Tattooth]

What's the price for Sim City on GMG in the UK? Thinking of grabbing this and I can't check what the price is with discount atm

It's 36.99, but Amazon has the boxed copy for 34.99. But that means you won't be able to unlock it early, unless they deliver it early.

 

[timetokill]

Discovery Delta 1 Players!

I've sent friend invites to all of you that have IDs listed. We're still missing 8bit's Origin ID though.

If you got an invite from Cannibalchef please accept it, it's me

Omiee, as the new guy you're in an important spot in Sawyer's Crossing. I hope you're ready to pump out resources for the rest of us

 

[Smiley90]

Origin ID: AGKBrooklyn

Just a heads up that I may not be able to accept requests and invite until the evening of the 5th. I'll try to get on for the midnight release, but I don't know if my schedule will permit.

I should be good for some late night running on the 5th and 6th. Schedule clears up a lot after the 7th. Can't wait!

This quote is for Murphy to add to the list

 

[misterhektik]

And it is pretty spot on. It is one thing to get frustrated watching someone fumble around when the game is telling them exactly what to do, but to say they are playing wrong is just crazy. The most hardcore of any community that acts like that will just scare off the more casual fans. Just look at all the fighting game nonsense from last year.

I think what happened was a lot of "backseat driving." We've all had people complain to us about how we drive, and we've all told certain drivers they drive crazy. It's a unique thing that happens when someone drives/plays a game in a manner that we aren't accustomed to. On top of that, you have the veil of anonymity provided by the internet, which results in people scolding/insulting him for "not playing right." Quite unfortunate.

 

[Beautifully Shaped Monsters]

I got caught up in the whole Amazon thing. Due to a glitch in the system (or maybe the glitch is in the Matrix) I ended up getting $10 off with the initial email.

I then emailed customer service, who said they would give me a further $10 off with my next purchase, so basically my total discount amounts to the same, except I wont get everything with my current Simcity order.

I'm not totally happy with this situation, but I'm wondering if it's worth the bother to call them, considering I'm not actually in the US and I preordered from the US site. Of course, that's also technically a breach of some rules somewhere, but from my understanding Amazon never bother with that.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I'm spending most of my time watching youtube videos of the 4 hour beta load test.

I am learning a lot about how this game plays but some of these guys are not really watchable. No planning. One guy I watched kept talking about making his roads organic 4 videos later I learned how stupid that was since he had no room for any of his extensions or major things like stadium.

I guess I am learning from those mistakes as well ... sad about the mac version since I am totally sold on this game now

 

[saunderez]

I got caught up in the whole Amazon thing. Due to a glitch in the system (or maybe the glitch is in the Matrix) I ended up getting $10 off with the initial email.

I then emailed customer service, who said they would give me a further $10 off with my next purchase, so basically my total discount amounts to the same, except I wont get everything with my current Simcity order.

I'm not totally happy with this situation, but I'm wondering if it's worth the bother to call them, considering I'm not actually in the US and I preordered from the US site. Of course, that's also technically a breach of some rules somewhere, but from my understanding Amazon never bother with that.

Weird. I demanded the CAGROCKS discount be applied to my new order and they just gave me $20 worth of promotional credit which I applied when I reordered the game. I just used the email support to they were suprisingly fast and helpful. I'm not in the US either, but meh, money is money to them.

 

[Fixed1979]

Alright, on the off chance that MetalMurphy can't do the region invites tomorrow I've sent out Origin invites to everyone in Viridian Woods (1).

We're still missing DTKT though...he's never actually even posted in this thread so it might be a replacement situation.

 

[swirlyglasses]

Just sent everyone from DDR3 a friend request.

 

[Spookie]

What's the price for Sim City on GMG in the UK? Thinking of grabbing this and I can't check what the price is with discount atm

£30 I think.

Edit: £36.

Edit 2: Speaking of GMG has any euroGAF received their key from them?

 

[EvilPengy]

It's 36.99, but Amazon has the boxed copy for 34.99. But that means you won't be able to unlock it early, unless they deliver it early.

Hmmmm, thanks for that.

I'm not too fussed about getting it on day of release, was thinking of picking it up later in the week. What do you guys think, will the price drop in the next few weeks?

 

[Spl1nter]

Hmmmm, thanks for that.

I'm not too fussed about getting it on day of release, was thinking of picking it up later in the week. What do you guys think, will the price drop in the next few weeks?

No, its a pc only title.

 

[dragonflys545]

Pre-ordered this bad boy. Can't freaking wait!

 

[Tmac]

Not entire but this is the closest I have found:



City borders look pretty awkward with tall buildings ending just like that.

If it's as fun as Sim city 2000 i dont really care.. and with online play it whould be like sim city on steroids!

 

[dragonflys545]

So how do I join gaffers? What are these Delta discovery thingy lol... xD

 

[Metalmurphy]

How many people still want to join GAF regions?

If there's enough of them I'll just open a new region. Titan Gorge (3)

 

[Megasoum]

I wish there was a stream right now... I need my fix lol.

 

[dragonflys545]

How many people still want to join GAF regions?

If there's enough of them I'll just open a new region. Titan Gorge (3)

I'm down. Just need some instructions on who I should add and what to do etc.

 

[Tmac]

Discovery Delta 3
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Spud8ud
plastik2k12
Yogloo
Tekezy
OblastSRT4
CheeseTom (please check if misspeled)
nurve7
PelegrinuX
rmr2020
WoodenLung
Theandrin
AppleMIXX
swirlyglasses1
flashburn2012
Zona221
Munroe4985


Who wants to creat the region?


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It whould be cool if we had a spreadsheet for all region with some basic information (one sheet for each region) like specialization, plans, etc for each player/city.

 

[Vilam]

How many people still want to join GAF regions?

If there's enough of them I'll just open a new region. Titan Gorge (3)

Sent you a PM before, but just figured I'd express my interest for all to see - hyped!

 

[AppleMIX]

My DL speed is not that great, I probably won't be able to create.

 

[Metalmurphy]

Who ever creates just make sure you won't be quiting the game after 2 weeks, and take not on what regional server you're creating. You'll all need to be on the same regional server. I don't think it'll matter much if you're from Europe and playing int the US, it's not like this game will have low latency requirements.

 

[suddenlyissoon]

Worked out better that Amazon cancelled my order. Got it for 40 instead of 45 after their "sorry" $5 coupon.

 

[saunderez]

Worked out better that Amazon cancelled my order. Got it for 40 instead of 45 after their "sorry" $5 coupon.

Yeah I wonder if they expected most people to crack the shits and demand their discount back. I still think the whole thing was bullshit, if they can "inadvertently cancel" an order the could just as easily reinstate it.

 

[iKhayal18]

I preordered the Deluxe Edition at Origin Russia (37€). I want to join to the NeoGAF community too!

 

[Tmac]

Worked out better that Amazon cancelled my order. Got it for 40 instead of 45 after their "sorry" $5 coupon.

I had it cancelled because my local origin had a better deal. Same price as amazon with the cagrocks coupom and a US20 credit on my next purcharse...

But... amazon still gave me the $5,00 credit! Amazon rocks

 

[Ceebs]

Who ever creates just make sure you won't be quiting the game after 2 weeks, and take not on what regional server you're creating. You'll all need to be on the same regional server. I don't think it'll matter much if you're from Europe and playing int the US, it's not like this game will have low latency requirements.

Assuming you will be creating our region? (VW1)

 

[Smiley90]

Assuming you will be creating our region? (VW1)

It'll be either murphy or fixed, they both have origin pre-orders and can login 3h earlier

 

[Metalmurphy]

Assuming you will be creating our region? (VW1)

Yeah, if the proxy works

 

[Definity]

I wish there was a stream right now... I need my fix lol.

Haha, same here. Almost there now though!