Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]

Imp the Dimp said:
Not intending to derail the thread, just askin': Did EDGE apologize for GTA's 10/10? I just want to know if the 10 still means something.
I imagine that they apologized in the same way that GAF apologized for every GOTY
 
TheDrowningMan said:
They're really not worse than Eurogamer, which I like, but has myriad questionable reviews of its own.

The major difference being that Edge gets treated special, when they are not. Especially bad when it comes to fighting games, when whoever is writing(I'd like to know) likes to pretend they are rather savvy, when they don't understand the basics.

Mael said:
I imagine that they apologized in the same way that GAF apologized for every GOTY

There is no reason for "GAF" apologize for their stupid GotY polls. 95% of the board's opinion is useless.
 
Riposte said:
The major difference being that Edge gets treated special, when they are not. Especially bad when it comes to fighting games, when whoever is writing(I'd like to know) likes to pretend they are rather savvy, when they don't understand the basics.

How can any publification "understand" the basics, when they have mere days to play and deliver the review? Fighting game reviews aren't meant for fanatics.
 
Riposte said:
The major difference being that Edge gets treated special, when they are not. Especially bad when it comes to fighting games, when whoever is writing(I'd like to know) likes to pretend they are rather savvy, when they don't understand the basics.
The quality of EDGE's written review is a country mile ahead of the pack. That's why. Even when I don't agree with them (which is quite often), they articulate their position quite well.
 
Riposte said:
The major difference being that Edge gets treated special, when they are not. Especially bad when it comes to fighting games, when whoever is writing(I'd like to know) likes to pretend they are rather savvy, when they don't understand the basics.



There is no reason for "GAF" apologize for their stupid GotY polls. 95% of the board's opinion is useless.

unless you mean 5% of GAF users are friends you trust and thus can have useful opinons FOR YOU particularly, I'd say 100% of GAF is useless as any review anywhere is as useless.

the opinion of a Jeff Gamer or a Cliff Dudebro aren't more valid than that of anyone else.
 
zoukka said:
How can any publification "understand" the basics, when they have mere days to play and deliver the review? Fighting game reviews aren't meant for fanatics.

Poor excuse for shitty criticism. Moreover, they could be doing a better job despite limitations(these reviews are almost never as interesting or in-depth as early impressions from even casual fighting game NeoGAF posters. There is a failure in also how writers approach the genre altogether).

The real problem comes when Edge writers like to pretend they know anything. Usually writers for other magazines are humble about their lack of understanding and are featured-obsessed because they have nothing else to talk about(in other words "not for fanatics"). Edge on the other hand dives head first into concrete making observations and criticisms of mechanics that are laughably shallow if not incorrect.

Their reviews, when not pompously stupid, are nothing special and can be held side by side with other publications(makes them think they are using a lot of freelance work). It is like they built themselves an image and it stuck. (They have pretty magazine covers which makes me want to respect them, so maybe that is it. lol)

Mael said:
So you do get my point then.

Not really. Edge is a publication with reviews made by individuals. I'd really like to know who these individuals are so I can make an appraisal of their taste. Right now I am forced to just rag on the whole magazine.
 
Riposte said:
Poor excuse for shitty criticism. Moreover, they could be doing a better job despite limitations(these reviews are almost never as interesting or in-depth as early impressions from even casual fighting game NeoGAF posters).

That's like your opinion man (and a crazy one to boot concerning fan written previews lol). It's clear as a day you feel bitter about these guys getting paid and not playing 10 hours a day to somehow validate their existence to hardcore gamers, which really don't form that big of a user group.

But feel free to bash your head into stone. Maybe it will turn into a journalist who doesn't care about deadlines and can write the technical document for a fighting game that you so desire.
 
zoukka said:
That's like your opinion man (and a crazy one to boot concerning fan written previews lol). It's clear as a day you feel bitter about these guys getting paid and not playing 10 hours a day to somehow validate their existence to hardcore gamers, which really don't form that big of a user group.

But feel free to bash your head into stone. Maybe it will turn into a journalist who doesn't care about deadlines and can write the technical document for a fighting game that you so desire.

Yeah, I am soooo bitter. lol. What is with this defense force garbage you are making me read? Have a friend in the press or something? Who cares.

Fighting game criticism tends to suck. The reasons and excuses doesn't make it suck any less, it only explains why things are the way they are. What am I actually talking about though is that Edge likes to pretend that it isn't in this group with all the other publications and makes boldly stupid commentary on things way over their heads. While most fighting game reviews know they are only good for comments on feature lists and what the online is like(before it is inevitably patched), Edge makes offensively bad criticisms.
 
Riposte said:
Yeah, I am soooo bitter. lol. What is with this defense force garbage you are making me read? Have a friend in the press or something? Who cares.

Fighting game criticism tends to suck. The reasons and excuses doesn't make it suck any less, it only explains why things are the way they are. What am I actually talking about though is that Edge likes to pretend that it isn't in this group with all the other publications and makes boldly stupid commentary on things way over their heads. While most fighting game reviews know they are only good for comments on feature lists and what the online is like(before it is inevitably patched), Edge makes offensively bad criticisms.

I'm the first person to tell you that games journalism has not yet matured. But competetive games that are played, patched and argued on for years, aren't games you can reasonably tackle in a short amount of time. Just plain logic my friend.
 
Dude what is your problem. If you enjoy the games you enjoy why do you even care what Edge thinks.

This thread keeps going off-topic and it's making it shitty. 10/10 is a great score for Zelda and I look forward to playing it.
 
zoukka said:
I'm the first person to tell you that games journalism has not yet matured. But competetive games that are played, patched and argued on for years, aren't games you can reasonably tackle in a short amount of time. Just plain logic my friend.

Are you selectively reading sentences of my posts? Whether that is true or not or whether it is more true for fighting games than other types of games doesn't matter. Look at what I am saying about Edge.
 
Red UFO said:
Man, review scores are serious business, huh?
It's really the only way to "objectify" opinions. people say it doesn't matter, they know it doesn't, hell they even know that line of thinking is flawed. But that simple fact alone makes them care regardless.
 
Riposte said:
Are you selectively reading sentences of my posts? Whether that is true or not or whether it is more true for fighting games than other types of games doesn't matter. Look at what I am saying about Edge.

I am until you somehow prove that edge is the only mag that does that. How can I even begin to comment on that hyperbole?
 
Riposte said:
Are you selectively reading sentences of my posts? Whether that is true or not or whether it is more true for fighting games than other types of games doesn't matter. Look at what I am saying about Edge.
The heart of your criticism of EDGE has next to nothing to do with this thread. Zelda and fighting games have almost nothing in common. Make a thread since you feel so passionate about it.
 
Riposte said:
Yeah, I am soooo bitter. lol. What is with this defense force garbage you are making me read? Have a friend in the press or something? Who cares.

Fighting game criticism tends to suck. The reasons and excuses doesn't make it suck any less, it only explains why things are the way they are. What am I actually talking about though is that Edge likes to pretend that it isn't in this group with all the other publications and makes boldly stupid commentary on things way over their heads. While most fighting game reviews know they are only good for comments on feature lists and what the online is like(before it is inevitably patched), Edge makes offensively bad criticisms.

Do you have any evidence for the bolded?
 
can someone explain to me why Arkham City is the better Zelda game? I must have missed the joke...

edit:anyway, can't wait for the limited edition to be in stock again
 
By the end, this thread is going to have a lot of posts.

I cant wait for the inevitable low score that stirs the hive.
 
let's see who can get closest to the lowest score SS gets on metacritic. cut-off date can be... december 1st? maybe later?

gonna go with 6.5
 
Murkas said:
Is attacking the same like TP? I never liked swinging the Wiimote to attack and always relied on the A button attack. :(
Yep. You don't have to use the wiimote at all. I like that you kept up with the game.
 
I was thinking about it and I wonder if it would be better for the game if it got lower reviews. High reviews tend to inflate expectations and lead to dissappointment (especially in Zelda games), while lower reviews would keep expectations in check and would probably lead some to be pleasantly suprised. Because if it does get good reviews, y'know that there has to be a backlash coming, most especially with a Zelda game.
 
Murkas said:
Is attacking the same like TP? I never liked swinging the Wiimote to attack and always relied on the A button attack. :(

It uses MotionPlus for 1:1 motion controlled sword swings, differentiating it from the gesture based waggle of Twilight Princess.
 
Imp the Dimp said:
Not intending to derail the thread, just askin': Did EDGE apologize for GTA's 10/10? I just want to know if the 10 still means something.
Apologize? What in the what? It's a great game.
 
I'm going to make a new site, review the game, and give it a 7 just to freak you guys out.
does sdf still exist? They would have done that and it would have been good for a few giggles.
 
methodman said:
Yep. You don't have to use the wiimote at all. I like that you kept up with the game.

I don't like reading previews and info about games I'm interested in so I avoid overhyping myself.

EatChildren said:
It uses MotionPlus for 1:1 motion controlled sword swings, differentiating it from the gesture based waggle of Twilight Princess.

I see, problem with Twilight Princess was that it hurt my wrist after a while.
 
Oh man, this is going to be the first time I witness the reaction from fans on a low score towards Zelda.
If there is one.
I'm kind of excited...sadly.
 
I put the over under of total bans brought from this thread to 2 if a decently low review comes out.

Though I'd be willing to move that number up depending on the circumstances. 5 if it is from someone major and 7 if 8.8 comes up.
 
Murkas said:
I see, problem with Twilight Princess was that it hurt my wrist after a while.
FWIW, it's going to take more than wrist flicking this time. Also, you have to use the motion controls for every sword move, including the jump attack, so you can't rely on A this time, since that'll only get you as far as the jump.
 
BertramCooper said:
Something new, or the one from a few weeks ago?
One from a few weeks ago. Is there a thread I can read for GAF's comments on it?
 
Zornica said:
can someone explain to me why Arkham City is the better Zelda game? I must have missed the joke...

edit:anyway, can't wait for the limited edition to be in stock again
Because of the nerd boner for everything Batman.
 
BurntPork said:
FWIW, it's going to take more than wrist flicking this time. Also, you have to use the motion controls for every sword move, including the jump attack, so you can't rely on A this time, since that'll only get you as far as the jump.
/Insert joke about having one wrist much stronger than the other one
 
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