Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]
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Kilgore Trout
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The standard edition does not come with motion plus. For $70 you can get the collection with the gold wii motion plus remote. Both come with the soundtrack.galactus_eat_world said:
The Hermit
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Dr Eggman said:
I´ll waiting for the pics... oh yeah
Dr Eggman said:
ok then!
SMG and Xenoblade (along with SS) will make you love that system, you won't regret.
Alex
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I'm not really interested in any reviews but does any of the content or commentary released thus far mention if there's much significance to the new subsystems like the crafting and gathering and the like? Those really make my ears perk up but I'm worried they'll be pretty much fluff.
Laughing Banana
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Cipherr said:
Hahaha it's Alkaline, he's just messing around
How many more days? How many more days? The painful thing is it seems like I will be unable to get this on day one.... so sad
Host Samurai
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The Wii ironically has the most "hardcore" niche titles out of the 3 home consoles.
Crazyorloco
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kinda low on cash these days and I was going to buy modern warfare 3....but this will have to wait. This is a Zelda year. This is more special to me. The main Zelda's games come out every 4-5 years. I've been a fan since link's awakening. I can't wait. I'm glad this thread has been pretty spoiler free. I'm going on a media black-out after this post.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I would agree.Host Samurai said:
I have big libraries for all modern consoles, but my Wii library is full of particularly hardcore gems like S&P2, Muramasa, NMH2, Tatsunoko, etc.
ShineALight
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Cruzader said:
He's referring to the Wii's line-up of games like Little King's Story, Muramasa, No More Heroes, S&P, etc., which would appeal to long-time gaming enthusiasts almost exclusively. Lower development costs for the Wii made niche titles like that arguably more common than on the HD twins.
Tricky I Shadow
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Host Samurai said:
LOL....no.
I used to be like you, then No More Heroes 2 came out and the Wii blew me away.Cruzader said:
Sure, there's Vanquish, Bayonetta, and all the rest "hardcore games" on the 'HD' systems, but the Wii has a pretty strong niche set as well. It took some time, but I no longer regret my Wii purchase. NMH2 is probably in my top 10 favorite games of all time. Sin & Punishment is just about the last great rail-shooter. House of the Dead: Overkill is great too. That and Madworld on Wii show there's some mature support for the white waggle box. Not to bmention the pretty solid first party support with franchises we hadn't got much love from since arguably SNES time period. Its depressing that its taken so long for developers to finally get their balls out and actually try and do things creatively with motion controls.
Barack Lesnar
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This isn't even close to being true. Go look at a 360/PS3 released games list and I'm not talking about "space marines" (sigh, can't stand that term). It's not just a true statement and it's not close if we're going by numbers.Host Samurai said:
Flying_Phoenix
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Host Samurai said:
As someone who was so disappointed in the Wii that he sold it this is...true. What significant budget niche games do the other consoles have. PS3 has the usual Gust games and the Xbox 360 has...Deadly Promotion?
Its sad. The Wii really could have been a great console, but Nintendo dropped the ball. Now I can merely say "its better than the Gamecube".
From what I gather, everyone's definition of "hardcore niche" is a cool game that's not mainstream. In which case, the HD twins have plenty of games like that. Dark Souls, Catherine, Disgaea 3/4, Heavy Rain, Vanquish, Bayonetta, Darksiders, Shadows of the Damned, etc. Perhaps the Wii seems to have more niche titles simply because there are fewer blockbuster titles obscuring them.
Flying_Phoenix
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Kazerei said:
Bayonetta, Darksiders, Vanquish, Heavy Rain? The hell?
I'll give you the rest though.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Fixed for accuracy.Host Samurai said:
Barack Lesnar
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Yup, and there's a ton more: http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/xbox360?view=condensed&sort=desc&page=5 And don't forget PSN/XBLAKazerei said:
TheExplodingHead
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All in all I'd say the Wii library is great as long as you're not looking for blockbuster-type games. Because it excels in the obscure/niche titles and for the most part handles them quite well. It is a shame we didn't see more emphasis on expanding the idea of technical motion control and even new design frameworks for it. The Wii is/was great but it hardware/software-wise (and developer centric) squandered lots of potential it could have had.
The Wii was the best homebrew enabled system we'll likely ever see, and it was also sort of a shame more dev's (niche dev's) didn't try to develop things for that crowd and even use it as a means to expand options/gameplay.
The Wii was the best homebrew enabled system we'll likely ever see, and it was also sort of a shame more dev's (niche dev's) didn't try to develop things for that crowd and even use it as a means to expand options/gameplay.
Stumpokapow said:
Why would EDGE waste their time choking on dick for Nintendo's fringe titles? They aren't hardcore Nintendo fanboys, just always there with a 9-10 for every major Nintendo release.
EDGE is below industry average for 85% of all games with a standard deviation of almost 10%, according to Metacritic. You think they're 10% below industry average for 85% of all major Nintendo IPs? That removes 7 of the titles from your list, FYI. They happen to be all the major Nintendo IPs on it.
Did you notice the "II" in my post? In what world does that mean "3"?Stumpokapow said:
Also, thanks for the LBP score illumination, for everyone. You don't think its fucked up that LBP PS3 is a 10 but as soon as it hits PS3 they drop it to a 6? Or was it some halfwit reviewer didn't have his personal happy button tickled and so he threw a mediocre number on it? LBP on PS3 = revolutionary game. Very similar experience on a handheld where there is even fewer experiences anything like it and suddenly its a middle of the road title.
Jet Set Radio was just one I happened to notice when I was referencing a few EDGE scores, sure. So how in your crazy "defend the gaming bible!" zealotry does that make the scores for Witcher 1 & 2, the declining score for a vastly superior GoW game, the outright BAD score for ZoE, etc. make any sense?
Me making one research mistake is somehow > years of shitty reviewing by EDGE?
Welcome to the "man steals $100 gets 15 years, man embezzles $100 millon dollars, get 40 months" world of nonsense.
Barack Lesnar
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I'd like a definition of "hardcore niche titles" please.
Flying_Phoenix
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Heavy said:
I don't see one on that list. And PSN/XBLA don't count because I said significant budget.
This is all irrelevant though. PC gaming steamrolls all three consoles alone.
Barack Lesnar
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Please define "hardcore niche titles" for me. And that list wasn't just that one page...that was just the copy/paste linkFlying_Phoenix said:
Allan Holdsworth
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Host Samurai said:
Outside of Japan, this is correct. Of course DS/PSP have way more.
Flying_Phoenix
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Heavy said:
Games that are geared toward a very small specific group of people.
Some notable examples:
NIS games
Gust games
Nearly anything Suda 51 makes
Ark System Work and SNK fighting games
etc.
Flying_Phoenix said:
So what puts No More Heroes, Sin and Punishment, etc. in that category and not these games? Sales? Seriously though, I don't get it.
Flying_Phoenix said:
So budget is a factor too? That seems like an arbitrary rule.
Flying_Phoenix said:
AFAIK, there are no NIS or Gust games on Wii, and there's only lazy ports of Arc and SNK games on Wii ...
Barack Lesnar
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So basically, Japanese?Flying_Phoenix said:
Are you serious?
mind bogglesKazerei said:
Kazerei said:
Mainly I'd say target market. No one expected S&P2 or NMH to be a blockbuster, whereas games like Bayonetta and Darksiders were extremely high budget, highly marketed games aiming to be multi-million sellers. That's in direct contradiction with the whole idea of "niche" games.
I would say though that Heavy Rain hit it big even though it was in a niche genre
Flying_Phoenix
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Heavy said:
How did you get that from my post?
Kazerei said:
Darksiders is an eight digit budgeted action-adventure game. There is no way in hell that is niche.
Bayonetta actively tried to be SEGA's "Devil May Cry" a game that is not niche at all.
Heavy Rain isn't a videogame so it doesn't count.
No More Heroes is on there for the same reason why I left Shadow of the Damned alone. Sin & Punishment is on there for the same reason Disgaea 3/4 are.
guek said:
Good reason.
OldJadedGamer
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Heavy said:
Basically.
Barack Lesnar
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Yeah, I don't get it. Why does the budget matter? That's an arbitrary restriction.Kazerei said:
I just checked their Wikis and you're right, lol.
Barack Lesnar
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EmCeeGramr
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This is a great discussion of Skyward Sword reviews.