Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]
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Not to get in on this argument, but I thought DMC was niche. Perhaps it WAS, but NOW it's the gold standard for action games...Flying_Phoenix said:
I haven't played SS at all, but am sure I won't be bored to tears. Looking at screens and videos prior to TP I was pretty sure I would be bored. I played it, and was bored.-PXG- said:
I've got a really good feeling about SS. I have a strong inkling it'll take the crown from Majora's Mask for my personal favorite Zelda game.
Calavera520
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WHY SO LOW?
Barack Lesnar
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It's just funny how they're putting arbitrary restrictions to their definition of "hardcore niche".
definition: niche
5. pertaining to or intended for a market niche; having specific appeal: niche advertising.
I guess Rolex, Ferrari, and any number of other luxury/high-end brands aren't niche since their products have huge budgets and cost a lot to make?
Sorry, but the budgets have nothing to do with games being niche or not. EA could make a $50 million Lacrosse game and it'll still be a niche game targeting a niche segment of the market. And going by that (correct) definition, the HD twins have a lot more of these types of titles -- but like Kazarei said, they tend to get overshadowed on the HD systems and the opposite for the Wii.
definition: niche
5. pertaining to or intended for a market niche; having specific appeal: niche advertising.
I guess Rolex, Ferrari, and any number of other luxury/high-end brands aren't niche since their products have huge budgets and cost a lot to make?
Sorry, but the budgets have nothing to do with games being niche or not. EA could make a $50 million Lacrosse game and it'll still be a niche game targeting a niche segment of the market. And going by that (correct) definition, the HD twins have a lot more of these types of titles -- but like Kazarei said, they tend to get overshadowed on the HD systems and the opposite for the Wii.
guek said:
Flying_Phoenix said:
I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree. IMO a "niche" game is defined by how it plays, and not its budget. But whatever.
Also, keep in mind Wii games generally have much smaller budgets than PS360 games. Almost all Wii games would fall in the niche category if you compare them to the typical PS360 budget.
MaddenNFL64
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Calavera520 said:
If we get a 8.8 from a major outlet, this will come up. And it will be annoying.
ShockingAlberto
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Is it fucked up because the typo ruined your point or that it just as easily could have been two separate reviewers?Drek said:
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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Wow. So is this the only game so far this year to earn a perfect score from Edge? *hugs Wii*
Fine Ham Abounds
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This and Xenoblade almost make me want to find out which box in my closet my Wii has been in for the last 3 years.
Then I remember it'll be another 6 months before I can afford all of the good games that came out this year anyway.
Then I remember it'll be another 6 months before I can afford all of the good games that came out this year anyway.
BruceLeeRoy
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10/10...From Edge?
Damnit.
Anyone care to loan me a Wii for a month or two?
Damnit.
Anyone care to loan me a Wii for a month or two?
Chet Rippo
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For a second there I thought I was in the wrong thread.EmCeeGramr said:
Heavy said:
You're right, being niche doesn't have anything to do with budget. It's just that games prices are fixed, so budget usually makes a big difference between what's niche and what's not. Rolexes are part of a niche market that is able to charge through the roof to a few select number of people. Game developers don't have that luxury, so niche games are usually budgeted lower.
Games like darksiders were never ever intended for a small, niche market. Even games like bayonetta and vanquish, games that I can understand arguing as being niche, were games that would traditionally be considered niche but crafted with bloated budgets in hopes of breaking into the mainstream. Therefore, not niche because they weren't made for a small niche market.
Hazelhurst
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I may have to borrow my wife's Wii. This game looks freaking great.
Drek said:
Your argument is invalid. You can't take the statistic that "ON AVERAGE," EDGE scores 85% of games 10% less than the Metacritic average, and apply that to the "major Nintendo IPs." Why? Because Nintendo's major titles tend to score higher (85-100), and the distribution (or spread of scores) of scores isn't the same across different ranges (e.g. 60-70, 70-80, 80-90, 90-100).
If a site scores a certain percentage of games ~10% less than the Metacritic average, this statistic comes from a wide range of scores. From what I know about trends in game reviews, it might be that in the 60-70 range, a site might score most games 15% less than the average; in the 70-80 range, they might score 10% less than the average; and in the 80-90 range, the might score 5% less than the average. This sort of argument seems reasonable to me, whether it's due to the fact that as a game's flaws compound, it's easier for a score (opinion) to drop (higher disparity for lower scores), or simply the fact that there's a cutoff at 10, rather than the large tailing-off (0-60) for "bad" games.
Either way, this sort of analysis requires a more rigorous statistical treatment, which I doubt anyone here is really willing to do. But I would hold off before calling "moneyhats." Or you could just, you know, accept the fact that some people like other games more than you.
DefectiveReject
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Take your stupid and complete meaningless sales talk out of the thread. Who gives a damn who's had the most niche titles, in a god damned Zelda review discussion thread.
An Edge 10/10 sets a standard. Anyone now posting anything below 90% is a purely attention seeking whore
An Edge 10/10 sets a standard. Anyone now posting anything below 90% is a purely attention seeking whore
Randomizer
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Wait so let me get this straight?
The newest entry in one of the most highly acclaimed, widely loved games series of all time achieves a perfect score and people are implying Nintendo might have bribed the reviewers. Lol they are not EA and Edge are not IGN/Gamespot, the quality of the game obliviously speaks for itself.
The newest entry in one of the most highly acclaimed, widely loved games series of all time achieves a perfect score and people are implying Nintendo might have bribed the reviewers. Lol they are not EA and Edge are not IGN/Gamespot, the quality of the game obliviously speaks for itself.
No man, Nintendo games are totally for babies. How could any self-respecting adult like that garbage when they could be playing a mature game like Modern Warfare 3? There's no way Nintendo didn't bribe everyone to say their stupid cartoon kiddie games are actually good.[/jokepost]Randomizer said:
People will say some crazy things when they're in denial.
bigdaddygamebot
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That Edge review gives me hope.
TheExplodingHead
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AniHawk said:
That goes for any game really, especially high-profile ones. But I'd think if Nintendo were pondering a publication/source to bribe Edge wouldn't be top of the list. In any case we know we'll be getting a pretty good game.
Magicpaint
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This does nothing to promote productive discussion. Might as well say it any time any high profile game gets a perfect score anywhere. Maybe we should all actually play the full game before instigating stuff like this. *shrug*AniHawk said:
Magicpaint
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When last has a major Zelda game not gotten great reviews though? This is just continuing a trend.nib95 said:
walking fiend
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You mean they could have, right? Is there any time that they couldn't have? Should we live in constant fear because they can bribe?AniHawk said:
When you say they might have and you are afraid of such, it means that you have some indication to suggest that they are using their potential power for doing so.
It's like saying, that duckroll can ban me, but am I afraid of being banned? Not now, because there's no reason for so to happen. Of course I should generally be afraid of being banned, but that's something else.
And what we have seen till now from SS is nothing short of amazing.
TheDrowningMan
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Riposte said:
They're really not worse than Eurogamer, which I like, but has myriad questionable reviews of its own.
Sapphire Dreams
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Alright, time to buy a Wii.
Steve McQueen
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Holy shit. EDGE gives a 10/10 and GAF is on fire 
.DefectiveReject said:
Anyway, an EDGE 10 still means quite a bit to me as it's one of the very few outlets I actually still trust when it comes to reviews.
Say what you will but they can be rather harsh, even on top games, so I'm very glad to see they are this content with SS.
Gonna pick up a copy from Newsstand.
whalleywhat
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Wow, Nintendo puts out a bug-filled game and all the fanboys lap it up.EatChildren said:
Imp the Dimp
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Oblivion said:
Not intending to derail the thread, just askin': Did EDGE apologize for GTA's 10/10? I just want to know if the 10 still means something.