Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]
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Peterthumpa
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Yup, no prob. About compatibility, I think that graphically speaking we can expect some issues from using a cell-shaded approach, just like the issues with Wind Waker, and problems with the orchestrated music (which in theory should be solved used the LLE audio backend).Crunched said:
It's WW and Okami for me. This gen's lookers have been Donkey Kong Country Returns, El Shaddai, that Miyazaki-looking Level 5 game, and hopefully Skyward Sword.oatmeal said:
Smart art design trumps technical prowess nearly every time for me. Okami is still my favorite looking game.
IceDoesntHelp
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WUT!?Neiteio said:
Sorry...uhh are we looking at different games here...or?
It's OK. I can see how you think SS looks different, but can't you see how one can also tell, at a glance, that they're cut from the same cloth? The proportions, the character models, etc, all look more similar than they do different. That's not a good/bad thing, it just is what it is. To me, SS looks more pastel-colored, with more charming/attractive characters (dat Zelda), but all in all it looks like TP. And actually, I'd say that based on what we've seen, TP is graphically prettier in some respects. For example, I haven't seen any SS dungeons yet that have the same beauty as Goron Mines or Snowpeak Ruins (but then again, I'm smitten with particle effects, which those two were full of). To each his/her own, I guess. Neither holds a candle to TWW.IceDoesntHelp said:
Though if you ask me, the ultimate Zelda game would be cel-shaded to look like the promo art for MM, which was full of dark contrasts. Sort of like MvC3's cutscenes, now that I think of it.
IceDoesntHelp said:
It still looks like it's hampered by low tech.
A lot of shitty textures, mixed in with some really cool ideas (watercolor blurring, etc.)
It's a different art style, but it still looks very limited. Super Mario Galaxy 1&2 (different game, I know) looks much cleaner and better.
Diprosalic
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timetokill said:
well that's check for 2/3 sources i care about.
The problem with TP, outside of the weird character models, was that its art design was not held up by its muddy textures. It could look great at times, but often was a blurry, Earth-toned mess.Neiteio said:It's OK. I can see how you think SS looks different, but can't you see how one can also tell, at a glance, that they're cut from the same cloth? The proportions, the character models, etc, all look more similar than they do different. That's not a good/bad thing, it just is what it is. To me, SS looks more pastel-colored, with more charming/attractive characters (dat Zelda), but all in all it looks like TP. And actually, I'd say that based on what we've seen, TP is graphically prettier in some respects. For example, I haven't seen any SS dungeons yet that have the same beauty as Goron Mines or Snowpeak Ruins (but then again, I'm smitten with particle effects, which those two were full of). To each his/her own, I guess.
brotkasten
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This game is still too far away. 
I will say I'm sad this game doesn't support 720p. Sad because component cables don't make much difference in my experience, and I want good games to look good on modern tech. Thankfully, I have an SDTV handy, but it would be nice to play it on an HDTV so I can have the wide screen.
I don't know how this Dolphin business works (is it even legal?), but would certainly be interested to try it if it meant SS playing at modern resolutions.
Thankfully, I have an SDTV handy, but it would be nice to play it on an HDTV so I can have the wide screen.I don't know how this Dolphin business works (is it even legal?), but would certainly be interested to try it if it meant SS playing at modern resolutions.
Diprosalic
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Neiteio said:
nah, i just took this picture from wiki
http://i.imgur.com/1eLud.jpg
and painted a bit over it in photoshop. i have no skills whatsoever and i'm colorblind. i thought it looked horrible
Rehynn said:
one of the two main guys from penny-arcade.com
(the one who draws the comics)
walking fiend
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I don't know if it depends on TV, but with component most of the games look 'crisp' on my Sony LCD, though I just need to change default settings a bit, like totally turning off noise reduction, but then it looks really clear, no need for an SDTV at allNeiteio said:I will say I'm sad this game doesn't support 720p. Sad because component cables don't make much difference in my experience, and I want good games to look good on modern tech.
I don't know how this Dolphin business works (is it even legal?), but would certainly be interested to try it if it meant SS playing at modern resolutions.
I'm being honest here, I don't think that SS's design is very creative. From what I've Seen so far I also don't think that the watercolor design works very well. It's pretty subtle and not outstanding.
However, I think that skzwards design is brilliant. It's the way zelda is supposed to look. It's the perfect combination of the realistic style of OoT and the colorful 2D style seen in ALttP. It's perfect and I wish that skyward won't be the only Zelda that uses this gorgeous style which fits in a IMO natural way to the franchise.
However, I think that skzwards design is brilliant. It's the way zelda is supposed to look. It's the perfect combination of the realistic style of OoT and the colorful 2D style seen in ALttP. It's perfect and I wish that skyward won't be the only Zelda that uses this gorgeous style which fits in a IMO natural way to the franchise.
It's legal provided you rip your own games, but that's very easy to do following instructions in the Dolphin/homebrew threads.Neiteio said:I will say I'm sad this game doesn't support 720p. Sad because component cables don't make much difference in my experience, and I want good games to look good on modern tech.
I don't know how this Dolphin business works (is it even legal?), but would certainly be interested to try it if it meant SS playing at modern resolutions.
It helps a lot. TP runs full speed for me, and looks like this:
Peterthumpa
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Yes, nothing wrong with emulators as long as you own the game. And yes, The differences are pretty much mind-blowing.Neiteio said:
EDIT - bah, beaten.
BY2K said:
That it eventually has to end is a low point. The fact that you have to stop playing to go to work, eat, and sleep could be a low point.
Really though there's no way to know right now. Since no one else is saying anything about low points it's hard to say whether these low points are actual problems or just things he doesn't like. Maybe he doesn't like some of the backtracking.
IceDoesntHelp
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I can't even comprehend this nonsense about SS looking worse or as good as TP. Absolute balderdash.
Anyways the reviews seem to be rolling in a lot quicker. So I'm gonna get out before the spoilers start rolling in as well.
Anyways the reviews seem to be rolling in a lot quicker. So I'm gonna get out before the spoilers start rolling in as well.
DeathbyVolcano
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wrowa said:
what in the what
Peterthumpa
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Good stealth edit =pCrunched said:
Though I would say that the realistic look that Nintendo tried with TP doesn't really shows how much of an improvement we can get. Imagine WW with a more mature tone and tailor made for the Wii, running on Dolphin... Jesus.
I thought the first shot looked alright, but the HUD is bothersome and the ground texture is just terrible in the starting area.felipepl said:
Here's one from combat, and a Wind Waker shot with a hi res HUD pack:
That'll be it from me. But hopefully it pushes those who can take advantage of Dolphin to really see what it has to offer.
Holy Order Sol
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Makes me hungry.
Peterthumpa
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Fuck, bailing out.elrohir said:
walking fiend
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lol... nice oneDascu said:
ThatObviousUser
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Dascu said:
Zant was revealed like two weeks before TP came out. Not entirely uncertain they're still holding some of the bad guys back.
It's a mistake to assume that something has to be creative in order to be brilliant. Skyward looks great despite being more or less just a combination of the two most popular styles of the series - and while combining something might mIght not be very creative, the result is striking despite that. Because to my mine the combination makes it look like the quintessence of Zelda graphics.DeathbyVolcano said:
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Jocchan said:What's the ETA for the OT? The game is out in 12 days here in Europe
The new rule is 7 days maximum before the game's release. So I would guess probably in five days, although you'd have to ask Ami.
That reminds me, I need to do those headers. >.>
-Stranger-
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IGN review is coming up soon isn't it?
Diprosalic
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-Stranger- said:
11/11/11
Curious which embargos go up when in general for the holiday.
I imagine we won't see diddly on Revelations due to the franchise's past reviews until the day it's out or the day before. Sounds like Skyrim is early this week along with Skyward Sword and maybe Saint's Row. Some clarification would be great though.
I imagine we won't see diddly on Revelations due to the franchise's past reviews until the day it's out or the day before. Sounds like Skyrim is early this week along with Skyward Sword and maybe Saint's Row. Some clarification would be great though.