We do. You just have to give the 3DS a little time to connect to the Internet so that it can see that there is an update.
Smash Wii U & 3DS Downloadable Characters Discussion and Information on Smash Ballot
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We do. You just have to give the 3DS a little time to connect to the Internet so that it can see that there is an update.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I meant as this way, I would rather to have any stage coming back even it cost us the unique songs that were lacking in the games. I really hope that it meant good thing for some stages that we really want to see in the game.
balladofwindfishes
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A Wii U only DLC stage
But can we get a Wii U only DLC character?
But can we get a Wii U only DLC character?
Dr. Buni
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I agree. It's just a shame to see music being neglected this way. To some people (like me), music is one of the most important aspects of a game.
Hopefully not.
Though unlike the Melee and Brawl stages' situations, it's highly likely that the non-model-rip 3DS stages already have higher quality source textures readily available. And even if they're ported over unchanged, they won't really be all that out of place, seeing as mostly unchanged N64 stage ports are being sold as paid DLC. Transferring stages between the 3DS and Wii U versions of the game also aren't comparable to bringing in stages from previous games - Brawl (and Melee stages which appeared in Brawl) need a modified Omega model (and various compromises to function on the 3DS); while Melee-only and 64 stages have to be imported in from scratch, with only the original graphical assets transferrable.
GiantBreadbug
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balladofwindfishes
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I think we might see one or two of the Brawl Melee stages pop up at this point.
Stuff like Pokemon Stadium or Big Blue.
Stuff like Pokemon Stadium or Big Blue.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I would love to have Big Blue and Pokemon Stadium <3
balladofwindfishes
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Mario Maker has 10 thousand reused songs, and Mario Paint Medley isn't one of them lol
Jawmuncher
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Was really expecting a new character. Don't know why they're pushing mii fighter costumes so hard when they still can't be used online.
Because they are easy to make. They just need to build a model. No need for new movesets, animation, balancing, palettes, etc.
Jawmuncher
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Simple
Plus not everything is about online
Just a shame they don't put the work into character alt costumes. Even if they were a tad more. Wish there was some info on how much mii costumes really sold. Since they must not do all that bad with how many there are.
Gonzo The Great
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More Mii costumes that have nothing to do with the ballot. Hell, they even used Fox's classic design for his Mii costume. This bodes well for K. Rool.
TheDinoman
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Technically, they can. Tourney Mode allows for usage of Miis. You can even turn custom moves off while keeping Miis on.
balladofwindfishes
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I wasn't awake at the time, did they end up needing the entire hour and a half?
MrSaturn99
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Dr. Buni
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Good thing Sakurai isn't going to release system exclusive characters. Ice Climbers can come back in the next game.
Good points. I am not bothered by the idea of 3DS stages being ported to the Wii U, it's just a shame it would give naysayers more reason to shit on the 3DS version. It's like people can't enjoy the Wii U version without shitting on the 3DS version.
Jawmuncher
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Well at least one small stepping stone has been made.
balladofwindfishes
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Oh ok
Anyway, since Pirate Ship isn't 8 player compatible, there must have been no way it was working on the 3DS.
Pirate Ship really feels like a nice bonus DLC. Making a Wii U only DLC stage is risky, and possibly not cost effective, and yet they went ahead and brought back a popular Brawl stage to make fans happy. The lack of new music on it kind of shows me that this might have been thrown together without wanting any sort of big investment. It's not been advertised at all either.
When Sakurai said that future DLC was going to be completely fan service focused, I think it was stuff like Pirate Ship he was talking about.
Certainly, with the weight of requiring entirely new music and one remix gone from retro stages, it feels like the sky is the limit for more Brawl ports. Also they seem totally open and willing to port stages between games, and I doubt Duck Hunt will be the only one. The 3DS has a lot of retro Smash stages that have no real reason to be stuck on just one console.
Sakurai might just be throwing a bone to 3DS players since the Wii U version got a free Miiverse stage. Duck Hunt didn't have a stage on the 3DS version, so it made sense to port that one above all the others (I'm assuming Wii Fit Studio can't be ported for technical reasons).
Starphoenix
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It's literally one step forward and two steps back with Sakurai... This is almost as bad as not putting the Hyrule Castle theme on HYRULE CASTLE!
The Miiverse stage is technically a base stage that came at a later date. This was more likely due to the exclusive AoC Pirate Ship stage, but obviously charging for Duck Hunt was a bit of a tall order so they just gave it for free.
I don't expect too many free stage ports between versions though.
GiantBreadbug
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See, that's actually a bad thing
Sorry, the 3DS can't handle ICs, never will, shouldn't mean Wii U players can't have a character that's already fucking done and ready to go
See...the unfortunate thing about that mindset is that if they did that, they would be ignoring the 3DS version which sold fucking better because "lol Wii U."
They'll be back in Smash 5, simple as that.
Source of that. For all we know they are still a placeholder model designed for the purpose of testing them on the 3DS and Wii U and nothing more. I doubt they completed them and then thought to test them.
GiantBreadbug
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See, that mindset doesn't really make sense because the 3DS cannot have Ice Climbers.
It's not like I'm suggesting we get ICs on Wii U and sneer at 3DS fanbase. I'm suggesting that a finished, fan favorite veteran be put on at least one system and not kept out for a reason that's pretty goddamn arbitrary
I guess since Pirate Ship appears not to have run well on 3DS they should have just scrapped it instead of bringing it to at least one system?
I get the logic behind parity but the mentality of keeping Ice Climbers on the bench because "if 3DS can't have it then nobody can" is insanity.
Ice Climbers should be in at least one version of the game when their exclusion from the other is for a really unfortunate reason. Simple as that.
Edit: Don't have source atm (on mobile), but Sakurai has stated that ICs were up and running on Wii U. I'd be grateful with help on finding that quote
It was in one of his Famitsu columns where he said they were running on the Wii U. But that doesn't mean they were complete, they could have still been using their Brawl models for example. The moment they were not running well on the 3DS it seems work on them was dropped and givien low priority for being continued on. I highly doubt they would have made all the assets first and then considered whether or not they ran on 3DS.
balladofwindfishes
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if Orpheon comes back it won't have the Prime title screen music lol.
balladofwindfishes
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And it will be replaced with the ripped song from Hunters 
And it will be replaced with the ripped song from Hunters
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Frigate Orpheon's music selection is just Brinstar and all three Other M rips.
...Don't even joke like that man D:
I'm actually find with that, because like my "non-sensical" logic states ignoring one platform's version of the game that sold more software would be stupid from a business standpoint. Having an exclusive character on just Wii U would make all the 3DS only players (which still exist, I know some personally) feel like crap. I don't mean to have this talk this early but it is what it is.
Also I know what article you're talking about, he said this a bit after the Wii U version came out. They were probably playable in the Wii U version but not balanced along with the rest of the cast.
balladofwindfishes
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It will almost certainly be the same songs as it originally had, plus Pyscho Bits and maybe Brinstar Depths. Maybe Lava Fish too, as it kind of fits.
Which tbh wouldn't be a bad song list at all. Yea, we'd loose one great song, but a few Brawl stages lost some good music anyway, and Brinstar Depths is a nice song.
I believe, other than Ballad of the Goddess, the song list on Pirate Ship is exactly the same as it would have been if it was a stock stage. It basically has a bunch of songs that didn't fit Temple, but Temple has anyway, and some remixes that it would have had on it. The Zelda medley from Hyrule Castle fits so much better on this stage.
Not sure why Full Speed Ahead isn't on the stage, though.
The question that should be on everyone's mind though, is if Distant Planet gets ported to the Wii U, will it have Big Brain Academy as music.
TDLink
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Nah that'd be stupid. Rather have the characters in one burst and get to enjoy them all for longer than have to delay them arbitrarily to please people on the Internet who "need" a character in every update.
Nocturnowl
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And it will be replaced with the ripped song from Hunters
Starphoenix
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First thing I'm doing when DLC production stops is modding my Wii U to get custom music.
balladofwindfishes
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In my opinion, they went a bit overboard with Mario Maker's songs. Some of them have no real reason to even be on the stage, they just seemed to have chucked every song from every 2D Mario that was in Smash 4.
While it's nice to have variety, it ends up feeling a little unfocused. Stuff like Mario Bros, Mario Land Underground, SMB2 Theme and all the NSMB songs don't really fit the stage all that well, as those games aren't even represented at all in Mario Maker.
While it's nice to have variety, it ends up feeling a little unfocused. Stuff like Mario Bros, Mario Land Underground, SMB2 Theme and all the NSMB songs don't really fit the stage all that well, as those games aren't even represented at all in Mario Maker.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I second this. I'm glad that it got those 3 characters right away.
balladofwindfishes
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We'll probably hear about the next DLC mid October, with release early November.
This DLC feels like a stop gap before something much larger.
Triforce141
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I expect a veteran like Wolf to come out in November with some basic model of Sakurai's ballot choice around the same time to say that fighter and a few more unannounced characters are in development at the time, and will come out next year.
Star Fox Zero may be delayed, but that shouldn't stop Wolf coming out early to promote and or offer a deal with Zero.
Star Fox Zero may be delayed, but that shouldn't stop Wolf coming out early to promote and or offer a deal with Zero.
That's what people said about the previous DLC. :-(
balladofwindfishes
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Wolf should come bundled with Corneria on the Wii U.
It wouldn't change his price or anything, but it would be a cool incentive.
It wouldn't change his price or anything, but it would be a cool incentive.
This one feels even more rushed than the last one did lol
The same was said about the previous DLC pack.
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