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[boiled goose]

I disagree with the assertion that Warren would have been more successful.

Hillary's success is her dominance with African American and Latino voters. While Warren would have gotten a bulk of that because "Not Trump" I think assuming that all of Hillary's support with those voting blocks is the result of her simply not being Trump is wrong. It ignores her unique strengths as a candidate.

Now, Warren would have done better than Bernie, I think, but that's neither here nor there.

Warren would have absorbed all of Bernies votes before people even knew who he was and stolen from Clinton as well. She has the pros of Bernie without many cons and is also a female. She would have easily won the nomination.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

If the democrats were to control the White House, Senate, and House by some chance, what would their legislative agenda look like in that first two years?

 

[Knoxcore]

If these PA polls continue to show a safe D contest she might as well divert resources from there to other swing states.

 

[Andrew Korenchkin]

Fuck North Scottsdale for being pro-Trump. The city I love so much....you give me shame, such deep seated shame and disappointment.

 

[mnannola]

What are the chances Trump is performing a political 'Rope-a-Dope'?

Act a fool, say horrendous things, and go way down in the polls. Hillary starts smelling blood in the water and starts opening up offices in red states she normally wouldn't even look twice at.

Then, when she is firmly established in these states, Trump does the unthinkable. He starts speaking above a third grade bully level. Comes out with comprehensive plans and not just sound bites to fix major issues. Uncovers some things about Hillary that make her look horrible. Since she is spread too thin, not only does she lose the Red states, but she loses some Blue states as well that she all but forgot about.

Could Trump shock the world?

 

[Movement]

What are the chances Trump is performing a political 'Rope-a-Dope'?

Act a fool, say horrendous things, and go way down in the polls. Hillary starts smelling blood in the water and starts opening up offices in red states she normally wouldn't even look twice at.

Then, when she is firmly established in these states, Trump does the unthinkable. He starts speaking above a third grade bully level. Comes out with comprehensive plans and not just sound bites to fix major issues. Uncovers some things about Hillary that make her look horrible. Since she is spread too thin, not only does she lose the Red states, but she loses some Blue states as well that she all but forgot about.

Could Trump shock the world?

Nope. That would require some amount of campaign strategy.

 

[Mollymauk]

We snatching reds, y'all.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

It was really only DC since all Mondale did in Minnesota was win his home state... something considered a given until the gift to the far right Al Gore came on the scene :x

This seems kind of unfair to Gore, no one was blaming Romney for losing MA even though that's the only place he's ever been elected.

 

[Phrozenflame500]

Could Trump shock the world?

People have been pushing the pivot meme for a while now, first when he had the nomination in the bag, then at the RNC, and now at the debates. It *really* doesn't look like Trump has the capacity to actually pull through with it.

 

[WedgeX]

If the democrats were to control the White House, Senate, and House by some chance, what would their legislative agenda look like in that first two years?

I'm sure some faction would want their agenda passed in full to the detriment of the rest. As happens in politics of big tents.

 

[Basileus777]

Trump is only up 5 points in Kansas.

Crazy shit happens when you're bleeding women and college educated voters. If these numbers don't tighten we're going to get a really weird electoral college map.

 

[Imperfected]

May as well take a stab at it given the campaign funding gap. At a certain point there's diminishing returns on just pouring more money into battleground states.

 

[Herne]

That Trump has the support he has, dwindling or not, that he has come this far, is pretty damning of America. Not that I'm saying it couldn't happen elsewhere.

 

[Blader]

If the democrats were to control the White House, Senate, and House by some chance, what would their legislative agenda look like in that first two years?

Probably similar to Obama's first two years: plenty of progressive change, but not some immediate night-and-day change of the country. Dems will still have to play a hard defense in 2018 (and will likely still get slaughtered anyway) for moderate/conservative-leaning seats.

 

[FLEABttn]

What are the chances Trump is performing a political 'Rope-a-Dope'?

Literally less than 0.

Could Trump shock the world?

Oh he has.

 

[Iksenpets]

Probably similar to Obama's first two years: plenty of progressive change, but not some immediate night-and-day change of the country. Dems will still have to play a hard defense in 2018 (and will likely still get slaughtered anyway) for moderate/conservative-leaning seats.

The difference between Obama's first two years and the first two years of a potential Clinton presidency with a Dem Congress is that there's no longer a major bloc of conservative, red state Dems. They all got wiped out in the Tea Party wave, and any replacements who got elected this year would be considerably more left leaning. Obama had to do a lot of negotiation with his own coalition. Obamacare lost its public option to opposition from red state Democrats, not Republicans. Hillary wouldn't be facing that, and would probably have more leeway to pass what she wants. And given the experience of the Obama years, I think there will be a pretty strong appetite to go as hard as possible during those first two years, knowing that defeat in 2018 is likely.

 

[shintoki]

The difference between Obama's first two years and the first two years of a potential Clinton presidency with a Dem Congress is that there's no longer a major bloc of conservative, red state Dems. They all got wiped out in the Tea Party wave, and any replacements who got elected this year would be considerably more left leaning. Obama had to do a lot of negotiation with his own coalition. Obamacare lost its public option to opposition from red state Democrats, not Republicans. Hillary wouldn't be facing that, and would probably have more leeway to pass what she wants. And given the experience of the Obama years, I think there will be a pretty strong appetite to go as hard as possible during those first two years, knowing that defeat in 2018 is likely.

It will definitely be more left leaning, but they will also have to play ball still if they want that reelection since many will flip back to being conservative once this election period is over. Trump has just poison the well is all.

 

[Tinfoilhatsron]

What are the chances Trump is performing a political 'Rope-a-Dope'?

Act a fool, say horrendous things, and go way down in the polls. Hillary starts smelling blood in the water and starts opening up offices in red states she normally wouldn't even look twice at.

Then, when she is firmly established in these states, Trump does the unthinkable. He starts speaking above a third grade bully level. Comes out with comprehensive plans and not just sound bites to fix major issues. Uncovers some things about Hillary that make her look horrible. Since she is spread too thin, not only does she lose the Red states, but she loses some Blue states as well that she all but forgot about.

Could Trump shock the world?

Only in SpeedyBlueDude's wet dreams.