Yeah you can get them for almost half that price.
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SNES Game Collecting (Tips, discussion, and info for like minded collectors)
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Yeah you can get them for almost half that price.
RadarScope1
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Well, I'll check the price again and talk to the guy. I wouldn't mind having it for a fair price.
theSlacker
Member
SNES games are just too far gone at this point.
Huggers
Member
The fun of collecting is being taken away by greedy resellers and huge nostalgia driven 30 somethings
A Black Falcon
Member
As with most older consoles, N64 games now cost MUCH more than they did back in the mid '00s; for a while there were pretty much no US N64 releases that were worth more than, like, $20 or so...
yeah sorry n64, I'm getting on the gamecube collecting hype train before it's too late >_<
Picked up NTSC copies of Super Mario World, Super Mario All-Stars, and Street Fighter II Turbo at what is to my knowledge the only shop in the country that sells retro games. Passed on a PAL Super Turrican and kinda regretting it, but oh well. It was neat going into an actual shop like that, they didn't have much but the experience is so foreign to me so it was neat. Spent like 3 hours talking to the guy in there too lol.
After seeing a youtube video that reminded me that Jetson game existed made me rush on Ebay to get a copy! I played this game for years back then and I don't understand how I forgot about it!
Theme from the main level is stuck in my head since two days, haha! Feels good because it's also been something like more than 1 year since I bought a SNES games, I scratched that itch.
Theme from the main level is stuck in my head since two days, haha! Feels good because it's also been something like more than 1 year since I bought a SNES games, I scratched that itch.
I could of course be horribly wrong but I don't think the average N64 games will ever reach the same prices as your average Snes game safe for a few exceptions. N64 games aged badly compared to the snes evergreen look. Nostalgia is strong but that lo-res 3D and low poly look just isn't as appealing.
sixteen-bit
Member
I hope u got ur component cables and copy of Gotcha Force already :/
D.Lo
Member
N64 is just blowing up now. In PAL countries certain N64 games (one of the Snowboard Kids ones I think? And Conker?) are already higher priced than any SNES games are.
It's just another generation of kids having grown up, got money and wish to relive the games of their childhoods.
And speaking for myself, I just had a blast playing Banjo last weekend! Good quality N64 games still hold up fantastically.
superNESjoe
Member
I offloaded a decent SNES collection just over a year ago during a move. Some of my favorite games I repurchased on Virtual Console, but I only hung on to 6 games.
DKC 2
Mario All Stars + Mario World
Link to the Past
Mario RPG
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy III
Definitely feeling some regrets, especially selling off Mega Man X and X3, as well as Yoshi's Island. I got good prices for everything, but seeing the madness now makes it impossible for me to jump back into my favorite system.
Some of the less text-heavy games I'm getting for the Super Famicom, as in many cases they are much cheaper (like the Mega Man games). As prices come down I'll pick up the english versions as well.
DKC 2
Mario All Stars + Mario World
Link to the Past
Mario RPG
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy III
Definitely feeling some regrets, especially selling off Mega Man X and X3, as well as Yoshi's Island. I got good prices for everything, but seeing the madness now makes it impossible for me to jump back into my favorite system.
Some of the less text-heavy games I'm getting for the Super Famicom, as in many cases they are much cheaper (like the Mega Man games). As prices come down I'll pick up the english versions as well.
Not that's you're horribly wrong, but I'd say you're on the path of wrongness, haha!
It's going up just like the rest, especially if you're looking for complete stuff.
GameCube collecting is well underway, because they didn't make a lot of them. PS2 games are also becoming collectors items, especially RPGs.
If you want to get ahead of the wave, check the bargain bins for great Wii, PS3 and Xbox360 games.
Brock_Landers
Member
Aren't we nostalgia-driven 30 somethings?
That's crazy, considering I bought a cart only copy of it from GameCrazy back in 2005-06 for fifteen bucks.
Brock_Landers
Member
I wouldn't expect most of the higher priced titles to ever come down. Most SNES titles didn't have a billion copies made like all the common NES games, and will only become harder and harder to come by. Recently I got Pocky and Rocky and R-Type III since they'll both be $100+ titles in another year.
A Black Falcon
Member
It'll be interesting to see if the original Xbox actually goes up in price; right now it's still one of the cheapest consoles to collect for. Wii, PS3, and X360 is also a great suggestion, I'm sure there are many cheap games for those consoles which will go up in price.
As for Nintendo systems, though, unfortunately, none are cheap now. The Gamecube never WAS cheap, unlike the N64 or before, for instance... GC prices just never went down as much as prices did for other systems. It'll be interesting to see how much GC prices go up despite this.
Returning to the N64, N64 prices are still going up, I think, so buying into the N64 now isn't a terrible idea... but it's not nearly as good of an idea as it was ten years ago.
I don't see Xbox games going up much, other than coveted imports like Metal Wolf Chaos. Too many multi-platform releases with the PS2, the failure rate of original Xboxes is pretty bad at this point, and most of the worth-while exclusives like Shenmue 2, Jet Set Radio Future and Ninja Gaiden / Black are all backwards compatible on Xbox 360.
People need to get on top of getting more uncommon N64 titles like Bomberman The Second Attack, Castlevania Legacy of Darkness and Snowboard Kids 2 while they're still relatively inexpensive. They're more expensive than most common N64 titles, but they're not at SNES / Earthbound prices yet. I see that changing in the next year or so.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
My Collection if you can even call it that.
I got Yoshi's Island on the way, and I think unless I see a cheap deals on eBay or in a local thrift store I'm calling it quits.
I will try to get Star Fox though since there's no way it's going to come on the VC for whatever reason.
sixteen-bit
Member
Nintendo doesn't want to pay to license FX chip tech.
That's also why the only version of Yoshi's Island on VC is unfortunately the GBA one, which was reprogrammed and does not use FX chip hardware.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
I heard that was a rumor (though it's pretty likely since none of the FX chip games have been released yet).
Has that ever been confirmed directly by anyone behind the scenes though?
Whatever the reason it spurred me to whip out my 21-year-old SNES just to get them.
My Collection if you can even call it that.
I got Yoshi's Island on the way, and I think unless I see a cheap deals on eBay or in a local thrift store I'm calling it quits.
I will try to get Star Fox though since there's no way it's going to come on the VC for whatever reason.
Imo you should give cheap games that are still over looked for one reason or another a shot. I think Illusion of Gaia is still relatively cheap. Also buy Brainlord. Everyone should buy Brainlord.
Huggers
Member
I certainly am. Not saying it's a bad thing. Just the reason why everything has gotten so expensive
Is it going crazy or something now?
I dunno, apart from a few cult classics like Conker, Majora, Paper Mario or Clayfighter, the N64 just doesn't have the same wide scope of memorable RPGs, or decent stuff from developers like Konami, Square , Enix and the like.
I'm sure it will go up but I don't expect the same craziness as the Snes.. Almost every cib Snes game these days seems to be worth its weight in gold.
But I'm happy to eat crow in 5 - 10 years from now. Wait and see..
But if anyone wants the Japanese version of Chrono Trigger, I'm happy to send it to you for the price of shipping.
It's dirt cheap in Japan. A seller included it as the "gift" in something I bought ages ago.
Even Japanese games that weren't terribly expensive are going through the roof now. I grabbed Megaman X2, X3, and 7 recently after watching their value start to skyrocket. I don't even think they're rare, but the association with the expensive SNES USA carts seems to be driving them.
It's dirt cheap in Japan. A seller included it as the "gift" in something I bought ages ago.
Even Japanese games that weren't terribly expensive are going through the roof now. I grabbed Megaman X2, X3, and 7 recently after watching their value start to skyrocket. I don't even think they're rare, but the association with the expensive SNES USA carts seems to be driving them.
Technically you could convert it to the NTSC version. not too hard to do.
Not sure on the legalities of it though, as you'd be using a flashed USA rom chip.
Well, anyone who'd like to take a crack at that is welcome to do so; I've got a USA copy with a fresh battery that I'm currently going through.
Heh, I have no need - I have the DS version, and I have to say that's the only version I will ever need.
Can't go wrong with that. I don't particularly like the DS hardware, which is the only reason I'd pick the SNES version.
Price is probably going up due to us naming it the top essential RPG of 2015.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=951760
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=951760
Damn. That's rough for cart only. I'm about to sell mine but I doubt I'll get much interest locally and once I add shipping it won't be worth it to post overseas.
Oh man, im totally the 33 year old chasing nostalgia with my newfound love for old games.(last 3 years)I do play them though and enjoy them. I wouldnt put people like me in the "ruining the fun" category. I am of the age that actually grew up with this stuff! I look at it as Im rebuying all the stuff my Mom gave away so many years ago.
Now the reseller hate I get. I dont have any hate for them, but I get it.
I'm really glad I picked it up for $65 a few months ago. There was a dip before Christmas.
Gonna disagree on Brain Lord... while it has some cool puzzles and its a challenging game with large dungeons... the actual game suffers from some extremely crippling slowdown that makes it such a chore to play. I really wanted to like it... but compared to the other great ARPGs on the system, it's not that great. But at least it's cheap.
Huggers
Member
You're the same age as me. Like it or not, we're part of the problem!
D.Lo
Member
Weird semi-political rant incoming 
Reseller hate makes no sense either.
Resellers don't create demand, and they're not forcing prices up. If anything they trend prices down by bringing more stock to the correct market. Unless the claim is they're manipulating entire worldwide markets by sitting on huge stacks of stock.
A reseller provides a service. They find items, and bring them to the buyers who want them most - those who will pay the most.
Just because someone finds a bargain at a flea market and they want to play it themselves doesn't mean they have more 'right' to it than someone who finds the bargain but doesn't want it themselves, so picks it up and brings it to buyers who do want it.
It's just capitalism.
Now it sort of feels 'unfair' that for old items people with the most money get things over those with less money. At least at one time these things had a relatively more 'socialist' pricing structure - e.g. as many copies of mint, brand new Chrono Trigger were available as people who wanted to buy them, and everyone paid exactly the same price.
That's one of the things that made America great and successful in the 20th century - a 'socialist' consumer culture. As Andy Warhol said:
But due to the passage of time, these are no longer consumer goods, they're more like fixed commodities. like gold (or even bitcoin). There is only X amount on earth, forever.
Reseller hate makes no sense either.
Resellers don't create demand, and they're not forcing prices up. If anything they trend prices down by bringing more stock to the correct market. Unless the claim is they're manipulating entire worldwide markets by sitting on huge stacks of stock.
A reseller provides a service. They find items, and bring them to the buyers who want them most - those who will pay the most.
Just because someone finds a bargain at a flea market and they want to play it themselves doesn't mean they have more 'right' to it than someone who finds the bargain but doesn't want it themselves, so picks it up and brings it to buyers who do want it.
It's just capitalism.
Now it sort of feels 'unfair' that for old items people with the most money get things over those with less money. At least at one time these things had a relatively more 'socialist' pricing structure - e.g. as many copies of mint, brand new Chrono Trigger were available as people who wanted to buy them, and everyone paid exactly the same price.
That's one of the things that made America great and successful in the 20th century - a 'socialist' consumer culture. As Andy Warhol said:
Andy Warhol said:
But due to the passage of time, these are no longer consumer goods, they're more like fixed commodities. like gold (or even bitcoin). There is only X amount on earth, forever.
meanspartan
Member
I've been collecting Ps2 games here and there for years, and some OG Xbox. Not because I planned to "get ahead of the market" and get rich or something lol, but because it was the first generation in which I became an enthusiast. I was born in 1989 so first console was a SNES and I love it a lot, but I was too young to properly enjoy anything that wasn't a platformer (went back and played most SNES/Genny classics later on). Skipped gen 5 because my parents got me a Gameboy in '98 instead of a Ps1, went straight to Ps2. Subscribed to a lot of videogame mags and started following the industry around this point at the turn of the millennium. And outside of school, I was in fucking middle school so had all the time in the world to game. Good years, I miss them. But back then, I didn't have money, so I couldn't get to every game I wanted to play. Collecting for that gen helps me catch up on the titles I never did get to, and Xbox games I never played (didn't own one til 360). And that nostalgia....the best.
I don't know if the prices will ever be as high for Ps2, maybe for some games. They just made a lot of games what with the console's huge install base. But they ARE easy to pick up. My local goodwill almost never has cartridge based systems, they ship those off to be auctioned on their website (stay away, winning bids often top ebay prices). But Ps2 /Xbox games I often find grouped with DVDs for dirt cheap. Just yesterday got SSX3 on Ps2 and Max Payne 2 on Xbox for a total of $3. Neither is rare, but I didn't have em so why not.
I wonder if ten years from now I'll look back at this as the "glory years" of collecting for Ps2/Xbox lol
meanspartan
Member
Weird semi-political rant incoming
Reseller hate makes no sense either.
Resellers don't create demand, and they're not forcing prices up. If anything they trend prices down by bringing more stock to the correct market. Unless the claim is they're manipulating entire worldwide markets by sitting on huge stacks of stock.
A reseller provides a service. They find items, and bring them to the buyers who want them most - those who will pay the most.
Just because someone finds a bargain at a flea market and they want to play it themselves doesn't mean they have more 'right' to it than someone who finds the bargain but doesn't want it themselves, so picks it up and brings it to buyers who do want it.
It's just capitalism.
Now it sort of feels 'unfair' that for old items people with the most money get things over those with less money. At least at one time these things had a relatively more 'socialist' pricing structure - e.g. as many copies of mint, brand new Chrono Trigger were available as people who wanted to buy them, and everyone paid exactly the same price.
That's one of the things that made America great and successful in the 20th century - a 'socialist' consumer culture. As Andy Warhol said:
But due to the passage of time, these are no longer consumer goods, they're more like fixed commodities. like gold (or even bitcoin). There is only X amount on earth, forever.
Resellers, at least the ones here in San Diego, snap up all the good deals at the flea markets BEFORE THEY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. It's the fucking worst.
I can't tell you how many times I go and see a stack of NES/SNES/Genesis/etc games but all I see is common games or crap games and I ask the guy what they had earlier, and he tells me that so and so game was bought at 6:30am by the guy who has the stand a few lots down.
The last one I remember, dude sold Mario RPG for $5 to a reseller who was then selling it that same day for ebay prices (not $5 lol). I never even had a chance, even if I had been there once the swap meet opened.
It is to the point now where I only ever get a good find for a deal if I dig it out of some box or otherwise accidentally hidden in a pile of junk. As such, I rarely go to flea markets anymore. Which is a shame, because they are fun when you feel like you have a shot of getting something. Resellers killed that shot.
And bullshit on the "service" they provide to the market. Collectors who care will find the games without the middle man, the middle man is just upping the prices.
Yes, it's capitalism. So is scalping. Both are legitimate, but dick moves.
theSlacker
Member
For our specific market, yes, resellers are forcing prices up. There is a limited stock of items and you can control an entire area of the market, say ebay, by bidding up any item that is being sold for less then your prices. If you lose and don't win the item the going price is still being drove up to what you want to sell your current stock for. If you win you have more stock that can be controlled. That common listing price then effects any store that sells games since they price their stuff off of what things are going for online.
The service they provide is unnecessary. It is literally inserting themselves as a middle man on products that would have sold either way, acting as a leach to the market. This is even more true to people that do the same thing on things new products like launch consoles/special editions/and currently amiibo. Yes it is capitalism but just because it is capitalism doesn't mean it isn't a dick move and worthy of hate.
All that being said I don't claim to have more right to a product then anyone else that can find and pay for it. I just don't like a certain kind of reseller. There are different levels to this stuff and there is a big difference between a reseller who is actively buying up and exerting control over the overall price of an item and a reseller that doesn't do that.
What really makes no sense is flat out not understanding why there are people that hate this kind of behavior. Yeah, I'm real happy when I read on other forums how someone used multiple accounts to preorder 100 of each of the new wave of amiibo so that they can sell them off for more money because of the lack of supply they caused for other people. Real happy when I see the same person bidding up all the games I'm looking for on ebay and then notice them reselling the same item if they won it a week later with no pics for a higher price. I mean, it's just capitalism.
D.Lo
Member
So you really think they are actually manipulating an entire market? Say the Chrono Trigger Market is being controller by one/a few humans who are buying every copy, then selling at a premium?
I mean eBay sucks, but I honestly believe most of the demand is genuine. They don't have that much of an effect on prices. I've dealt with many, many clueless collectors in PAL land over many years as I've sold off things I don't want*, and there's just more and more people wanting stuff and competing for it. I watched it happen with the NES first, and there was much less of a BIN/ebay store thing going on back in the mid 2000s.
The stores I've seen typically just list stuff BIN for lazy cashed up buyers - and that is providing a service (people too lazy to stalk auctions).
*I've never bought just to sell mind you, I just keep bulking up then thinning out my collection.
I didn't say I didn't understand people getting upset, I said getting upset makes no sense.
And I was largely not speaking of eBay buy/sell guys, but flea market hunters who resell on eBay. That's an actual service, particularly for non-US buyers. Chrono Trigger will literally never appear at a flea market in my country in my lifetime. I have bought many nice condition NES games from eBay stores, which I would have no other way of obtaining. At least they ship direct for $10 without any Global Sipping Program $30 to send to Australia crap.
Get there at 5:30 then? You have equal ability to get to the deal first. If it was bought by another stall holder legitimately before you were allowed in, well that's just right place right time for that guy, not any kind of trend.
EDIT: yes actual scalpers of limited quantity things (e.g. Amiibos) are bitches. And if people are truly manipulating markets shill bidding etc well yeah. But I think most are just capitalising on a combination of a hot commodity and an impatient, disorganised buying market. I have bought things for non-bargain prices sometimes when I could not be bothered stalking auctions that end at 2am, I work full time and my time is worth more than the $40 I'd save
theSlacker
Member
To control the market on a game that has good value and is limited you don't need to actually buy every copy of it that comes up, as I mentioned. Just by bidding things up, even if you don't win them, you can keep prices close to what you want an item to be sold for with no risk to yourself. Do this for long enough and others will accept that as the value of the product. Over the years you can see tons of listings that were just failed auctions and relisted, till they sold when the market was pushed high enough. There are a number of games that don't have a real shortage of availability that have reached an inflated price because of this. I haven't even checked Chrono Trigger specifically, but I'm sure you can go and check many auction style sold listings and match the reputation number of people that bid it up to others that are selling the same product/other games as buy it now listings. There is nothing illegal or against the rules about this, but it is still an easy risk free way to control the market value of a game until it is accepted.
As for brick and mortar reselling stores, I don't blame them as much for the prices they set. If they set their prices lower then online prices their product will just be cleared out by resellers that have no additional overhead to their business.
Gotta go, Nintendo Direct just started. :3
I'm curious how all those limited edition sets will do for PS3/360... I could see stuff like Ni No Kuni and the company-store-exclusive limited editions (i.e. from NIS, Gust) being very valuable. But between overstuffing retail chains with games, the fact many games require server verification (or have DLC) which limits their future viability, and the fact that most of the games are kinda 'samey' (Assassin's Creed and COD will be the modern day equivalents of Genesis sports titles) will hinder their collectible status.
For Xbox, it seems to be pretty dirt cheap and cluttering up the shelves at the retro stores I go to, but to be honest, I didn't care for very many of the games on the platform. I could see the SEGA titles (especially Panzer Dragoon Orta) being pretty sought-after in the future.