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So what are you guys going to do if Bush wins the election?

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Pimpwerx

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I should be going to either Britain or Australia. East or West depending on what I decide at the end of the year. There's also the possibility I'll just stay down here and have more fun. In all honesty, my life isn't affected so much by what Bush does. Long-term it will, but I will definitely be leaving soon, regardless. But teaching stays the same, and I don't ever plan on getting married, so it's not like the tax laws and stuff matter a whole lot to me. But I'm still offended and annoyed by a lot of the policy decisions and what we've been doing overseas. I've never liked it. It's only been a big problem for me the last few years b/c I've become more aware of what's going on. It's easy to ignore it when you're just working and making money to spend. But there's gotta be more to life than that for me. I want to see the world, so that's my deal. I don't think you're a coward if you leave a place you don't like. It's just being realistic IMO. Things won't change much, and it's not like this is some monumental social change like the civil rights movement. There's no urgency for me to stay and fight. I'm just gonna get while the getting's good. I don't believe the Titor sutff (although it would be pretty cool if it happened), but I think the cons are steadily overtaking the pros of staying here.

That said, I'm not even doing "the right thing" to get Bush out. I'm voting Nader. Some Greens were going door-to-door today in my neighborhood, asking everyone to vote for Kerry. Everyone's on this "Not Bush" kick that they're being real stupid about it. Just voting blindly against someone is pretty pointless. If Bush wins, I'll be pretty pissed, but I'd get over it. I wanted Gore to beat him too, but my world didn't end after that either. Ironically, my dad and older sister both voted for Bush. They gave me the stupidest reasons too. They're both quite smart, but this just convinced me that there are a lot of fools out there who are eager to put Bush back in there for another term. Whatever, maybe percentage tax cuts really do work. :rolleyes: Oh well, the world's chock full of nuts. PEACE.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Gruco said:
Do you find this to be mutually exclusive with supporting one of the two mainstream candidates?
I'm not entirely sure what the "this" is that you're referring to in my quote. That the solution has to come from a mainstream candidate? No. That only the supporters of mainstream candidates can be narrowminded and blind? No. Or that they're the only ones who need to wake up? No.

I just want people to educate themselves about the issues and perhaps most of all about what this country actually is. So many people don't even know that we're a republic or what the electoral college really does. I think that in so many ways we give politicians free rides until they screw up and then we get upset at them. Why do Americans stand for these bullshit 'debates' that are run by the candidates themselves? Why do we stand for these dirty campaigns when there are very important issues that won't even be discussed with regard to election (see the topics banned from these debates and past ones).

I talk to so many people who are pro-Bush or pro-Kerry and when questioned about why, they can't come up with anything more than that their candidate isn't the other candidate, or some silly junk like "Bush looks like a monkey" or "Kerry's boring." Then you have the people voting for third parties because it's cool and rebellious. That's sad. It's sad that people can be like that, and sad that they're content with it. Everyone likes to complain, but so many people don't even know what they're complaining about, let alone are willing to try and do something productive.

There's a place for cynicism in politics, and it's next to activism, but there is no place for idle ignorance or apathy.
 

Phoenix

Member
Find out who Bush's largest corporate supporters are, evaluate my 401k standings, adjust my funds to match those companies that will benefit the most from this.

At least, that's the FIRST thing I would do.... REALLY!
 

duderon

rollin' in the gutter
I would be dissapointed that the majority of voters (states/electoral college i know) couldn't make an informed decision. Then go about my business hoping bush doesn't fuck anything up to bad, but we know that ain't gonna happen.
 

Diablos

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I'll be totally disgusted and generally pissed at the ultra conservative/fundamnetalist world for roughly a week or two. Or maybe longer.
 
Diablos said:
I'll be totally disgusted and generally pissed at the ultra conservative/fundamnetalist world for roughly a week or two. Or maybe longer.

Don't shut me out of your life, Diablos! You know I need you!




Oh wait, I'm not ultra conservative. Nevermind. I still love you though. <3
 
Phoenix said:
Find out who Bush's largest corporate supporters are, evaluate my 401k standings, adjust my funds to match those companies that will benefit the most from this.

At least, that's the FIRST thing I would do.... REALLY!


I change my mind. I'll follow this guy.
 

Alcibiades

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Yeah,as a Bush supporter, if Kerry wins, I'm not gonna be shellshocked.

The Republicans have a slim (?) chance of retaining the Senate and either way, the House will remain in Republican hands anyway.

Plus, it would be the first time a Democrat is President with the level off media reach from talk radio (which has expanded now w/ Hannity and Ingraham and the fact that there has been exposure of the existence of the medium), plus of course internet media and FAIR AND BALANCED, CHANNEL OF POLITICAL RECORD Fox News also has reached such heights. They existed under Clinton, but the number of Americans that they reach increases every year.

Thanks to the internet especially, it would be interesting to see how scrutiny of a Democrat in office goes.

Either way, I'd happily await for hopefully Powell or McCain to (hopefully) jump-start Presidential campaigns in 2006.
 
efralope said:
Yeah,as a Bush supporter, if Kerry wins, I'm not gonna be shellshocked.

The Republicans have a slim (?) chance of retaining the Senate and either way, the House will remain in Republican hands anyway.

Plus, it would be the first time a Democrat is President with the level off media reach from talk radio (which has expanded now w/ Hannity and Ingraham and the fact that there has been exposure of the existence of the medium), plus of course internet media and FAIR AND BALANCED, CHANNEL OF POLITICAL RECORD Fox News also has reached such heights. They existed under Clinton, but the number of Americans that they reach increases every year.

Thanks to the internet especially, it would be interesting to see how scrutiny of a Democrat in office goes.

Either way, I'd happily await for hopefully Powell or McCain to (hopefully) jump-start Presidential campaigns in 2006.

:lol

powell?

he forgoed any future in politics with that speech at the UN.
 
In all fairness I believe that the country will be the same. Yes, I admit i'm a Bush supporter, but I believe the differences between Bush and Kerry are so small that whatever happens the climate in the USA will be the same. Only thing that will be different is our tax refunds. :)
 

FightyF

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I often wondered if Osama bin Laden would come out with a new video if Bush won again. Something along the lines of "haha suckers" type deal rubbing it in. He'd then claim responsibility for Bush winning and claiming it another victory for Al Qaeda and whole bunch of other balony.

Though I despise Bush, I hope he wins.

He created this mess, I think he should clean it. The next 4 years are going to be quite hard for any President. I can't see Kerry digging himself out of Bush's hole, to be frank.
 
Fight for Freeform said:
I often wondered if Osama bin Laden would come out with a new video if Bush won again. Something along the lines of "haha suckers" type deal rubbing it in. He'd then claim responsibility for Bush winning and claiming it another victory for Al Qaeda and whole bunch of other balony.

Though I despise Bush, I hope he wins.

He created this mess, I think he should clean it. The next 4 years are going to be quite hard for any President. I can't see Kerry digging himself out of Bush's hole, to be frank.

I really want to understand your thinking. I'm not trying to be a troll, but a lot of the times I hear that people would rather have Bush win, "So he can fix his mess". I don't think Bin Laden is really alive to tell you the truth. I mean if I was the worlds number wanted man and got away from the bombs of America I would of come out with a video proving I was alive just to shove it in the face of America. But, thats just me.
 

border

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Eric-GCA said:
Seriously, if Kerry wins I doubt there'll be any outcry from the conservatives, they'll probebly just go "ho hum, we'll see how this turns out" and not say anything beyond that.
Yeah right. I think you are giving them far too much credit after all this nonsense about how we will lose the war on terror if we don't vote for Bush....

Whoever wins, there are going to be some furious motherfuckers.
 
Raoul Duke said:
Rent out Mike Works' basement.
Going rate is $750 a month, $650 if you can get me a sweet discount on those berets.

border said:
Yeah right. I think you are giving them far too much credit after all this nonsense about how we will lose the war on terror if we don't vote for Bush....

Whoever wins, there are going to be some furious motherfuckers.
If Kerry wins, there'll be some pissed of Conservatives. If Bush wins, there'll be some pissed off... civilians?
 

Kon Tiki

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Blame this man:
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calder

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I've wondered a few times over the past couple of months if maybe this isn't an election the Dems might not just end up prefering a close loss in this election. If things are really as bad in Iraq as some ppl fear who wants to be in charge when it all goes *really* sour? At this point everyone knows the US just can't leave for a long, long time, but is there really any way Kerry could do things differently there enough to really make a huge difference considering the situation he'd inherit?

More than most canadians it'll impact me since I'm likely moving to Texas in a couple of years. Not only will I have 130 degree fucking summer weather and watching Dallas Stars (ugh) hockey to look forward to but I'll be stuck in the most pro-GWB area in the country. :\
 

SFA_AOK

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Pimpwerx said:
Everyone's on this "Not Bush" kick that they're being real stupid about it. Just voting blindly against someone is pretty pointless.

I was thinking about this today... Is this not similar to what the Republicans are doing? It's the other side of the fence but looking back on last week's debate, I can't help but feel that the mood has shifted from "let's have Bush for 4 more years" to "Do we really want this guy Kerry as President?" Maybe I should lay off the crack hmm? ;)
 

tedtropy

$50/hour, but no kissing on the lips and colors must be pre-separated
Listen to uber-conservative talk radio proclaim it to be the second coming of Jesus, laugh a little, then let out a jaded 'meh' as I realize that, regardless of who's in office, it basically impacts my personal life none whatsoever. Then I'll play Metroid Prime 2 and be all like "Samus teh sexorz...
 

Alcibiades

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HalfPastNoon said:
:lol

powell?

he forgoed any future in politics with that speech at the UN.
Blair has faced much worse and he looks like he's going to survive.

a sincere "sorry" will be accepted by Republicans, and the idea of a black President would have such cross-over appeal they probably couldn't resist.

Heck, he still has some of the highest approval ratings among American's in spite of that UN deal...
 
Either way, I'd happily await for hopefully Powell or McCain to (hopefully) jump-start Presidential campaigns in 2006.

Neither of them will run in 2008 if Bush loses. Powell is probably done with politics for good after his disastrous-but-not-all-his-fault Secretary of State position, and McCain would probably be getting too old for the job by then. Make no mistake-he's campaigning right now to keep in good graces with the GOP so that if Bush does lose and the GOP loses the Senate, he'd be the leader of the Republican Party, in an effort to bring it back to the winning (and yes, I say that as a liberal in the US) platform of rational conservatism.

If Bush loses, look for Frist (haha, loser), Mitt Romney, George Pataki, Giuliani, and Chuck Hagel, and *maybe* Jeb Bush-especially if FL goes blue in 2004.
 

Alcibiades

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border said:
Yeah right. I think you are giving them far too much credit after all this nonsense about how we will lose the war on terror if we don't vote for Bush....

Whoever wins, there are going to be some furious motherfuckers.
the thing is, Republicans still control the house.

If Kerry does win, the potentional fallout for Democrats in the mid-terms would be huge.
 

MC Safety

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For all you people who want to move:

Other countries don't want you. They're not like America, with its very liberal immigration policies.

And if you do go, I get your stuff.
 

Alcibiades

Member
Fragamemnon said:
Neither of them will run in 2008 if Bush loses. Powell is probably done with politics for good after his disastrous-but-not-all-his-fault Secretary of State position, and McCain would probably be getting too old for the job by then. Make no mistake-he's campaigning right now to keep in good graces with the GOP so that if Bush does lose and the GOP loses the Senate, he'd be the leader of the Republican Party, in an effort to bring it back to the winning (and yes, I say that as a liberal in the US) platform of rational conservatism.

If Bush loses, look for Frist (haha, loser), Mitt Romney, George Pataki, Giuliani, and Chuck Hagel, and *maybe* Jeb Bush-especially if FL goes blue in 2004.
Frist (like Hastert and Lott) are chosen partly because their ambitions don't extend beyond the legistlature.

NO WAY would he even have a chance. Chuck Hagel (if he stakes a pro-life position), is the only one there I can see as a potential, with maybe Jeb Bush running for the VP slot like Edwards did this year.

The best Pataki and Giuliani can hope for is appointments IMO. Unless they find a clever "no litmus test on abortion" way out of that issue, they really have no chance IMO.

Mitt Romney is interesting, but he's too anti-gay. Bush is staking out this pseudo-Pro Marriage Carl Rove has him doing to win social support among some rural and Catholic areas in Michigan, Pennslyvania, Ohio, and Iowa, but Romney will actually mean it and probably push for it in a sincere manner. Too many pissed off moderates and liberal with hiim so don't think so.

How the f*ck did he win in Massachusetts?
 

iyox

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Well the election will be close. If Bush wins I expect protesting, generally just pissing and moaning. If Kerry wins and it is execptionally close, I expect all out riots and the nation to fall into civil war. If anyone thinks Republicans will pussy foot around miscounted votes like the Dems did in 2000 I think they will be in for a bit of surprise.
 

Overseer

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Eric-GCA said:
Seriously, if Kerry wins I doubt there'll be any outcry from the conservatives, they'll probebly just go "ho hum, we'll see how this turns out" and not say anything beyond that. But if Bush wins, after all the months of rhetoric here about how "he cannot be President for another four years" what would you do if it came to that on November 3rd and you woke up with the realization that George W. Bush will be the president for four more years?


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"Leave that shit to me."
 

duderon

rollin' in the gutter
Oh yeah, when either of them win and there are any waco-like incidents, i'm learning how to purify water and handle various guns. We'll see if Johnny boy was right after all...

evil solrac v3.0 said:
for john titor's predictions to come true, kerry has to win.

explain.
 
deadlifter said:
Oh yeah, when either of them win and there are any waco-like incidents, i'm learning how to purify water and handle various guns. We'll see if Johnny boy was right after all...



explain.


well, you see the bush supporters are the ones crazy enough to instigate armed conflict to get their man back in the white house. they believe they can only be safe if bush is in washington "protecting" them. and titor did say that the president would be a "lincoln" like figure... who fits that description better than kerry?
 

duderon

rollin' in the gutter
evil solrac v3.0 said:
well, you see the bush supporters are the ones crazy enough to instigate armed conflict to get their man back in the white house. they believe they can only be safe if bush is in washington "protecting" them. and titor did say that the president would be a "lincoln" like figure... who fits that description better than kerry?

I suppose you're right with the lincoln example. Judging by the reaction of the protesters during the inauguration in 2001, though, i could see things escalating from there.
 

Otaking

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I've been prepping for the Titor Wars ever since I first read it. I already got a small stockpile of weapons in the other room complete with shells and other various survival items. Soon I'll be starting my plans to fortify my basement to survive the nuklear bombs that'll drop. I'll be moving my computer down there too, complete with an internet connection so I can keep in contact with the GAF while this is going down. The minute the first Waco-type event goes down, I'm gonna buy myself a nice bike and get the phone numbers of a few friends within 100 miles of me.

If Bush wins...I'll be putting the finishing touches on my kevlar-equipped Solid Snake-style sneaking suit. No Bush/Titor nuklear war will take me!
 
Otaking said:
I've been prepping for the Titor Wars ever since I first read it. I already got a small stockpile of weapons in the other room complete with shells and other various survival items. Soon I'll be starting my plans to fortify my basement to survive the nuklear bombs that'll drop. I'll be moving my computer down there too, complete with an internet connection so I can keep in contact with the GAF while this is going down. The minute the first Waco-type event goes down, I'm gonna buy myself a nice bike and get the phone numbers of a few friends within 100 miles of me.

If Bush wins...I'll be putting the finishing touches on my kevlar-equipped Solid Snake-style sneaking suit. No Bush/Titor nuklear war will take me!


the war can be brougth on by a number of factors..... diminished civil liberties, standard of living going down..... continued foreign wars..... russia/china making noise with their own terrorists problems. but look on the bright side, titor did say computers will be a whole lot better. ;)
 

ShadowRed

Banned
"So what are you guys going to do if Bush wins the election?"


Go to work, pay my bills, fuck random chicks. Basicly the same thing I'm doing now.
 
Wake up, take my girlfriend to work, and watch CNN all day while being in a pissy mood. Not like I'll have anything better to do on November 3rd, I don't have class on Wednesdays.

Seriously though, I'll be upset over Bush's reelection, but life will go on.
 
Go to work, take care of my daughter, get my ass beat at GGXX. Same as usual.

I'll be a little pissed that my daughter has to spend the first four years of her life in a country run by a man who sympathizes with Fundamentalist wackos, and of course I'll probably be fueled to do even more in local and state politics, but I'm sure I'll get over it.

Well, until I get hauled off to a Bible Re-education Camp, that is.
 

AirBrian

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Meh, same thing I'll do if Kerry gets elected. Both are horrible excuses for presidential candidates.

I will be happier though come tax season. Getting back an extra $1200 last year was really nice. (Fiscal responsibility, huh, what's that.) :)
 

Baron Aloha

A Shining Example
I'd seriously consider moving to another country - heck, I'm already looking into it. I don't think I can handle another 4 years of Bush. This country has gone to hell.
 
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