MadClacker
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It's dumb lmao
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So what do you all think of the story of Resident Evil 4?
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JimmyRustler
Member
I couldn't name another game that did the cheesyness this well.
You really have to remember that this is not easy task for a writer. Throw in too much cheesyness (see MGS) and it gets retarded, throw in too little and it gets too serious.
They did it juuuuust right.
Which is exactly why I consider this a masterpiece of writing. Hitting the sweet spot this well is craftsmanship.
And OP, you forgot...
"No thanks.... bro."
You really have to remember that this is not easy task for a writer. Throw in too much cheesyness (see MGS) and it gets retarded, throw in too little and it gets too serious.
They did it juuuuust right.
Which is exactly why I consider this a masterpiece of writing. Hitting the sweet spot this well is craftsmanship.
And OP, you forgot...
"No thanks.... bro."
It was my first resident evil so the plot was interesting at first loved the super serious/mysterious vive the setting had. Also Leon was very cool but once you get past the main village, the story started sucking. too many joke character like saddler ruined it imo. but then I was like wtf fuck it, this story isn't going anywhere.
Also wtf was with the tension between ada and Leon. Wtf Capcom why the blur balls
Also wtf was with the tension between ada and Leon. Wtf Capcom why the blur balls
First post does it again
Those end credits were seriously creepy the first time i saw 'em back in the day lol
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
RE4s story works because it is built to supplement the game play, the story beats are spaced out in a way that they always introduce something new, raise the stakes, build urgency, build tension or punctuate an area with a boss battle that it has been building up.
It builds enough mystery that it makes you want to keep playing just a bit more while remaining completely accessible and fun.
It builds enough mystery that it makes you want to keep playing just a bit more while remaining completely accessible and fun.
BRocknRolla
Member
I think the people who dislike this plot are likely those who still pine for a resident evil that takes itself seriously.
Those days are long gone. Let them go and embrace the ridiculousness of the series.
Those days are long gone. Let them go and embrace the ridiculousness of the series.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Based on what we've seen of RE7, that may not necessarily be true.
TannerDemoz
Member
I think it's proof that developers don't need to focus all of their time crafting hollywood-esque narratives to make a great game, because Resident Evil 4 is one of the greatest games and its story, along with every other story in the Resident Evil series, is absolutely terrible.
Sumio Mondo
Member
Same chap who translated/localized RE4 also localized killer7 (one of the best ever, imo), I believe, that guy was on a roll back then (he also did Viewtiful Joe and Devil May Cry, I believe?) He's a bit of a legend due to how damn good all of the games were that he worked on as translator/localization:
http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,79037/
The one take away is that whatever game this guy worked on had just the right amount of 'cheese' and really memorable dialogue. RE4, VJ, killer7, DMC, I mean, come on. Sooo good.
Good analogy actually. Kurt Russell is...Leon S. Kennedy.
http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,79037/
The one take away is that whatever game this guy worked on had just the right amount of 'cheese' and really memorable dialogue. RE4, VJ, killer7, DMC, I mean, come on. Sooo good.
Good analogy actually. Kurt Russell is...Leon S. Kennedy.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Legitimately the best goddamn quote on RE4's story ever. And I mean just yesterday, a friend of mine was telling me about how Leon in RE4 was essentially Jack Burton, except badass for real.
So I slapped his shit. Because Jack Burton IS badass. It's all in the reflexes.
In any case, RE4 has some of the most memorable villains and dialogue in gaming history. It's cheesy as all hell. The game reeks of provolone and gouda. But it knows that and uses it, so goddamn well.
Resident Evil 4's story is literally "The Big Cheese" and that in the best way possible. The game is tryhard to ridicolous extents (laser corridor scene, anyone?) but manages to do so without crossing the border to cringe, part of that can be attributed I guess to how self-aware it is about that instead of trying to take itself seriously, which becomes especially apparent in the second half of the game.
It's just really cheesy, but in a so bad (in terms of ridiculousness) it's good kinda way. Mix that with Resident Evil 4's awesome gameplay and you get why it's so highly regarded.
It's just really cheesy, but in a so bad (in terms of ridiculousness) it's good kinda way. Mix that with Resident Evil 4's awesome gameplay and you get why it's so highly regarded.
brandonh83
Banned
It'll still be ridiculous. There may not be wisecracks every two minutes but RE4 was kind of the exception to be honest; lots of corny lines in the earlier ones but the protagonists weren't like Leon in 4. Leon in 2 wasn't even like Leon in 4. 7 may be toned down comparatively, but it's not like there won't be a ridiculous plot or dialogue.
People are trying to deduct way too much from the thin amount we've seen of 7.
shiftplusone
Member
I remember I hated it and then forgot about it totally. Was so self aware that I got tired of it and was too corny for me to care.
I also only played RE4 the one time and thought it was just okay so I haven't touched it since
I also only played RE4 the one time and thought it was just okay so I haven't touched it since
It's incredible. Leon's character is absolutely perfect in it too: he's just this dorky twenty-something who also happens to be an incredibly handsome superspy, who has stumbled into a ridiculous situation. He seems aware of how completely ridiculous everything is and just rolls with it.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Well, sure, but I do think it'll be Capcom's strongest attempt at making a "serious" RE story, though I'm sure it'll still be full of ridiculous moments.
brandonh83
Banned
Compared to 4, yeah, it probably won't be that. That doesn't mean it won't be silly or unlike Resident Evil
HyperCroutons
Member
The RE4 story has a James Bond or 80s Arnold Movie level of cheesiness to it, which is why I liked it and never took itself super seriously.
But those credits have a completely different tone to them than the rest of the game, I ended up feeling kind of bad about killing so many villagers after seeing how Saddler brainwashed them.
But those credits have a completely different tone to them than the rest of the game, I ended up feeling kind of bad about killing so many villagers after seeing how Saddler brainwashed them.
Not necessarily ridiculous lines, but it's pretty clear they're not going for complete and utter fun camp the way they did with Leon saving the president's daughter. It looks like it's taking itself way too seriously - I don't see anything that shouts "fun" in what they've shown off so far. It just looks dreary af. And it's unlikely that even some cringey lines from unlikable characters will solve that.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
"Hasta luego."
Still the most epic comeback.
Still the most epic comeback.
MGS is on the same level of Resident Evil's cheesiness. It's just cheesy about real world military instead of horror.I couldn't name another game that did the cheesyness this well.
You really have to remember that this is not easy task for a writer. Throw in too much cheesyness (see MGS) and it gets retarded, throw in too little and it gets too serious.
They did it juuuuust right.
Which is exactly why I consider this a masterpiece of writing. Hitting the sweet spot this well is craftsmanship.
And OP, you forgot...
"No thanks.... bro."
BRocknRolla
Member
Ah, yeah, you may be right. But when the final product comes to pass, I have my doubts. (Whether that be the intention of the creators or not.)
Gai Murakumo
Member
First post says it all. It is campy but fun none the less. I think the last part of the game is probably the weakest part but overall it is a joyride.
JimmyRustler
Member
I'd agree for MGS 1 and 2 maybe but the others just went too far. When everything Snake says is cheesy then it's too much.
The Praiseworthy
Member
The worst between the main RE game.
Theanine3D
Member
It was dumb. The villains were laughable caricatures.
But the game was fun so I didn't care.
But the game was fun so I didn't care.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
"The "American prevailing" is a cliche that only happens in your Hollywood movies."
That moment when Mikami straight up tells you what Resident Evil 4 really is.
That moment when Mikami straight up tells you what Resident Evil 4 really is.
Tony Redgrave
Member
It was about a cult of sentient pre-historic parasites abducting the daughter of the president of the united states and trying to control the world.
It was stupid and it knew it, self-aware etc. the fact that the game is one of the greatest ever helps it immensely because honestly it's pretty bad even if it was intentional.
It was stupid and it knew it, self-aware etc. the fact that the game is one of the greatest ever helps it immensely because honestly it's pretty bad even if it was intentional.
Deputy Dangle
Member
My thoughts exactly. And much like Carpenter's work, it has the technical craft and creativity to amplify the thrills.
Jawmuncher
Member
It does it's job. Takes the player from point A to point B and gives them the drive to do so. Also is nicely stand alone so anyone can play and enjoy it really.
Outside of that though never felt it was very strong with its story. It has good moments and characters, but the story itself is kinda just there.
Dude has evil stuff he wants to use to take over the world and Leon wants to stop him is it wrapped up.
But sometimes simplicity is all you need. So I do think it has helped the game a lot with standing the test of time.
Outside of that though never felt it was very strong with its story. It has good moments and characters, but the story itself is kinda just there.
Dude has evil stuff he wants to use to take over the world and Leon wants to stop him is it wrapped up.
But sometimes simplicity is all you need. So I do think it has helped the game a lot with standing the test of time.
Pretty much the perfect analogy for it. If RE1 was Mikami doing Romero, then RE4 was Mikami doing Carpenter (both his action and horror movies). It's cheesy, self-aware, fun, and absolutely tense and scary when it needs to be.
I think it's interesting that aside from the Ada and Wesker stuff happening in the background, the main story of RE4 doesn't really have a huge bearing on the canon of the series overall. The events of RE4 are barely even mentioned in later games, getting a couple of small references in 5 and pretty much nothing in 6 despite Leon being in that game.
paragonpro
Banned
Fucken dumb and thats why I love it, same with RE 5 for that matter
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
I think we can agree that RE4's shitty dialogue has a very unique flavor that is not common even in modern Japanese action games. Almost every conversation contains bizarre malapropisms and weird mutations of cliched banter. RE5 already totally eschewed that style back in 2008 or whenever. I'm sure RE7 will have some shitty dialogue, but it'll be boring shitty, not batshit shitty.
mrmickfran
Member
MIIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKEEEE
HMMMM, where is the satisfying sound of one's impalement?
MegaSackman
Member
Garbage tier.
SmackAttack
Member
Yup. Something 5 and 6 failed to accomplish.
darkwing-buck
Member
Like every RE game, it's a silly B-Movie flick. Just good fun.
