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So when 360 doesn't fail in Japan

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It's got a strong enough launch period with RR6, DOA4, N3, FFXI and Ziria to do comparatively well. I bet it passes Xbox 1's 550k total by this spring... hopefully it can manage a good 2-4 million lifetime.
 
People are already arguing which version of RE5 will be superior (PS3 or 360). It never ends.
 
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ARRRRRRRRRRRRGH
 
Judging by t he current climate in japan i would be impressed if it outsold the ds on the first week.
 
i think the definition of "fail" needs to be explicity laid out here and now

does it mean below X amount of units sold

does it mean the general gaming jp public likes it?

etc etc
 
Define "success" though. 1 million consoles sold lifetime? 5 million? 25 million?

Nobody's really expecting Xbox 360 to pass PlayStation 3 or probably even Revolution in Japan... but is anybody expecting it not to pass what the original Xbox managed?
 
jarrod said:
Define "success" though. 1 million consoles sold lifetime? 5 million? 25 million?

Nobody's really expecting Xbox 360 to pass PlayStation 3 or probably even Revolution in Japan... but is anybody expecting it not to pass what the original Xbox managed?


selling better than the original xbox does not mean it is a success. it just means they did a little better this time. If tons of systems are still sitting around in stores collecting dust, its not a success.
 
I'm hoping that the 360 is a massive success in all regions, but I just don't think it's going to happen in Japan. Had the GameCube sold as poorly in the US as the Xbox did in Japan this generation, I doubt you'd see the Revolution even coming out here next-generation.

I'm pretty sure the fanboys are safe for now.
 
FTW If it sell many more than the original Xbox

I consider it a success if enough are sold for devs to be profitable making games for it in Japan
 
Aika'svyse said:
FTW If it sell many more than the original Xbox

I consider it a success if enough are sold for devs to be profitable making games for it in Japan


This so vague and stupid.
 
jarrod said:
Define "success" though. 1 million consoles sold lifetime? 5 million? 25 million?

Nobody's really expecting Xbox 360 to pass PlayStation 3 or probably even Revolution in Japan... but is anybody expecting it not to pass what the original Xbox managed?

Good call jarrod, of course it's going to sell more than the original Xbox... but what # is it going to have to reach in Japan to be considered a success?

Also how many launch units are they getting? If they get a small # and they sell out is that a success? What's a small # of units to get?

FTW If it sell many more than the original Xbox

I consider it a success if enough are sold for devs to be profitable making games for it in Japan

WTF? What the hell does many more mean?

And your second sentence... uh I'm curious to know how you're going to track that profitability figure.
 
Aika'svyse said:
What will fanboys have left?
which fanboys are we talking about though?

Do you mean that Sony and Nintendo fanboys will no longer have something to make fun of in regards to failures by the xbox or do you mean that MS fanboys will no longer have something that worries them and keeps them up at night?
 
Aika'svyse said:
So when 360 doesn't fail in Japan

I'll watch on in astonishment as Peter Moore flies through the clouds and punches out God. Pigs shall rain from the sky, their wings burned by the rays of Earths yellow sun.

Then we'll all play "Momma Can I Mow The Lawn?" on our Gizmondos.
 
DarienA said:
Good call jarrod, of course it's going to sell more than the original Xbox... but what # is it going to have to reach in Japan to be considered a success?

Also how many launch units are they getting? If they get a small # and they sell out is that a success? What's a small # of units to get?


If anything success can be measured in market share. If they manage to capture more than 10% of the market or something it might be a success. But i doubt they will be able to do anything against the ds\gba\psp\ps2 firefight thats going on right now.
 
Eh...I don't even think it will be a success. Europe is a better bet for increased market share over last generation.
 
Aika'svyse said:
What will fanboys have left?

two more days until we have that answer here... it is only 39,000 yen
 
sp0rsk said:
If anything success can be measured in market share. If they manage to capture more than 10% of the market or something it might be a success. But i doubt they will be able to do anything against the ds\gba\psp\ps2 firefight thats going on right now.

What % of the market do they have now(in Japan)? Cause shit if they have 1% right now(hypothetical #), and they capture 5% with the X360... well you get my drift....
 
DarienA said:
What % of the market do they have now(in Japan)? Cause shit if they have 1% right now(hypothetical #), and they capture 5% with the X360... well you get my drift....


I mean i guess gaining 1% marketshare is a success comparitavely, but what is the point of that? Anything is a success compared to zero right? A success should mean exactly waht it sounds like, it sells a bunch and becomes popular.


If you've been paying attention to the japanese market right now you would see that the 360 doesnt offer a damn thing that would make it a hit. DOA4 and RR6 will sell well (and i bet RR6 sells around 150,000 tops). The 360 will be dead in the water besides those two games until some of that mistwalker stuff comes out.
 
Heres some fun numbers (from the weekly sales thread)

DS 176000
PSP 92000
PS2 32000
GC 6000
GBM 7000


Now, what do you think the chances are of the 360 outselling the DS next week?
 
Xellotah said:
Would 1m units be considered a success? Bearing in mind what MS has going against them.
1m units what? 1m units at launch.. of course that would be a success, along with virtually impossible. 1m units over its lifetime? maybe a moral success in doing better than XBox, though still the worst out of any system this side of Wonderswan.
 
Speevy said:
Why would you want a product to fail?

I think the reason behind this is that he doesn't like the product/company and is a big supporter of another product/company.
 
Bud said:
I think the reason behind this is that he doesn't like the product/company and is a big supporter of another product/company.

No, I'm pretty sure it's because cybamerc was never picked first for kickball during elementary school.
 
Bud said:
I think the reason behind this is that he doesn't like the product/company and is a big supporter of another product/company.


I was fishing for another idiotic comment from him. He goes out of his way to troll everything Xbox 360.
 
Speevy said:
Why would you want a product to fail?

more often than not, fanboism is cause because a person is trying to convince themselves and make themselves feel better that they have made the correct purchase choice with the limited funds at their disposal, ive found

i am a lover of video games in general, i play all consoles and ever system like jaguar had one or 2 good games
 
Speevy said:
If it sells close to the PS2, that will be good.

Last week JP sales:

DS 176000
PSP 92000
PS2 32000
GC 6000
GBM 7000


PSP sold well over 2m in JP, and yet a lot of Nintendo fans call it a failure. I personally think that X360 selling on par with PSP's first year in Japan could be considered successful.
 
Sl1p said:
I'll watch on in astonishment as Peter Moore flies through the clouds and punches out God. Pigs shall rain from the sky, their wings burned by the rays of Earths yellow sun.

Then we'll all play "Momma Can I Mow The Lawn?" on our Gizmondos.

This is awesome except you neglected to include Chuck Norris. No flight of fancy is complete without a Big Chuck reference.

Try Harder.
 
It's going to do better than Xbox but it will be outsold by Rev and PS3 but as long as it remains competitive. I say it will be a success if it doesn't get outsold by last gen systems well into the gen and the total is around what GC did in Japan.
 
Aika'svyse said:
FTW If it sell many more than the original Xbox

I consider it a success if enough are sold for devs to be profitable making games for it in Japan

:rollseyes And you're accussing others of being fanboys? God you're pathetic.
 
If they hit even half of their 1 million units by March expectations then I would say that is a successful start.
 
If the 360 was able to manage 20% marketshare, I'd consider that a success. Anything less, a failure.

The hardware market will be interesting (at least in Japan) next generation. Never before have the home consoles had to fight against two consistently strong-to-impressive handhelds. With the rising costs of games and hardware, I would not be too surprised if next gen systems collectively sell less than this current one. There's only so much $ that can be allocated to gaming.
 
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