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So where are the Black people in Fable?
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belgurdo said:
...yet it makes sense. I'd rather have them focus on other aspects of the game rather than worrying about multiple character types. I mean, the changes required to make the game work with both sexes would actually be pretty large (which is why it was cut).
The Faceless Master
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i'll still get it, but it's dropped to "wait till platinum hits" status now...
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
I don't understand, why can't they put in a few different shades of skin colour? You don't have to have anyone react differently to you or anything.
I mean I get the woman thing, but the skin colour? Very strange. Won't affect me buying it, I'd have undoubtedly chosen a white character anyway, but for others it's a strange choice.
I mean I get the woman thing, but the skin colour? Very strange. Won't affect me buying it, I'd have undoubtedly chosen a white character anyway, but for others it's a strange choice.
dark10x said:
I'm just curious if you knew about what belgurdo was saying, since he says the script changes accordingly. Wouldn't that conflict with what you said?
Plus, the game has been in development for about forever and a year. If KOTOR could get different scripts working in less time, why the hell can't Fable?
What Mama Smurf said too.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
dark10x said:
He's asking who's right.
Mama Smurf said:
Yeah, I agree...it seems like it would be easy to allow that. I don't understand why they didn't add that feature, quite honestly. That would be such a simple addition.
...just don't forget that Fable is NOT an American game.
I actually did NOT know about that aspect, however, I don't think what he said would work. I'd imagine the responses you get when dressed like that were fairly quick and simple to add and simply result in a lot of people freaking out. Considering a lot of the interation details that have been added, it still seems like it would have required a lot of work to properly add a female character. When your character wears a dress, people likely all give the same response...and it was probably a very small addition. Just think of how much they would have to modify the interaction system for an actual female, though...
MightyHedgehog
Member
How are we certain that you can't be black or non-'white'?
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Actually yeah, where's the proof?
Didn't you notice how heavily they have focused on the interaction with people? There are a LOT of things present that wouldn't properly work with a female character. They would also need to change the way certain people respond to your character. After watching some recent demonstrations, it wouldn't be nearly as simple or clean cut as you make it sound.
Just a quick point. Everyone starts out the game exactly the same. There's no character creation part first. So everyone begins on equal footing, but where you go from there is up to you. That's why you can't be a black person. Perhaps the setting is responsible for their dearth in the game world.
I can tell you that this is in no way a racially motivated thing, and anything anyone reads into it along those lines is just crazy.
I can tell you that this is in no way a racially motivated thing, and anything anyone reads into it along those lines is just crazy.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Seriously, a huge amount would have to change for being a woman. I'm sure if the game is successful enough, it'll be a main aim to get female main characters into the sequel, but for now I'm glad they focused on other parts.
gunstarhero
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Excatly my thought
There are black people in Fable, you just can't be one of them.
At least two of the other heroes are black (Thunder and Whisper).
As far as why you can't be another race, it probably involves having differing facial structures, which would mean a ton of work when you consider all the morphing involved.
At least two of the other heroes are black (Thunder and Whisper).
As far as why you can't be another race, it probably involves having differing facial structures, which would mean a ton of work when you consider all the morphing involved.
Littleberu
Banned
You can't be black, BUT YOU CAN HAVE A BABY THOUGH!!
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
So if you could be a woman, you'd have to be the one to get pregnant.
Not that that would ever happen, every on of us would have a lesbian relationship and you know it!
Not that that would ever happen, every on of us would have a lesbian relationship and you know it!
Littleberu
Banned
Redbeard said:
Ahaha comon. Give me a break. It's not like black people are THIS different from White people. Ahaha.
Kuroyume said:
On the box? On the screens?
SolidSnakex
Member
Kuroyume said:
All over the place actually.
See CJ sticking up that one guy in his house in the recent batch of pics? Redbeard said:There are black people in Fable, you just can't be one of them.
At least two of the other heroes are black (Thunder and Whisper).
As far as why you can't be another race, it probably involves having differing facial structures, which would mean a ton of work when you consider all the morphing involved.
Yay for token black game characters! Sounds pretty like lazy programmers to me.
Mama Smurf said:
I'd prefer if they let you change your race and/or ethnicity too. But isn't this the kind of game where you only get to be one guy? In KotOR you got to choose your characters appearance from a good selection of choices, but I thought in FABLE you always start as the same kid. You can make an argument that they would have to change the art for this kids whole family based on your initial character choice and that would be too much work, but I don't buy into that b/c it wouldn't be that much extra work.
A diversity of racial and ethnic appearances in the NPC's would make up for the main character a bit IMO but not completely.
Diomedeskun
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Dagon said:
Like Dagon said, you do not create a character at the beginning of the game, choosing race and gender as in the average PC RPG, you start as a little white boy just like everyone else will. The customization comes not from a menu, but from choices you make as you play. Having a black character might require some sort of magic, but a female character would probably need surgery.
They could have included race and gender at the beginning with no other choices, like Serpent Isle, but I am assuming it was not their highest priority and everyone is meant to start with a similar main character.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
I see your points, but would it have been so hard to give us a choice of maybe 3 or 4 different skin types right at the start? Not so much a create your character thing, that can come through your decisions (as it's going to), just a simple choice.
I know it would have added work, perhaps a degree of remodeling, things like tattoos would have to be a different colour etc, but it would have been nice.
Ah well, maybe in the sequel.
I know it would have added work, perhaps a degree of remodeling, things like tattoos would have to be a different colour etc, but it would have been nice.
Ah well, maybe in the sequel.
Big deal with the fucking skin color. Do you really need to play a character that is having your own skin color to like a game? common. This is useless complaining.
I reckon a skin color option would have been easy to implement but what would that make a real difference in your gameplay and feel???
I reckon a skin color option would have been easy to implement but what would that make a real difference in your gameplay and feel???
Uno Ill Nino
Banned
Christ. You people will bitch about ANYTHING sometimes, won't you?
Oni Link 666
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You guys got the new GTA guy, Balrog, Spawn, and Jolie in KOTOR. What about us?!? What about the Puerto Ricans?!? Who do we get? How come there are no Puerto Ricans in Star Wars? I can't think of a single Puerto Rican videogame character.
teiresias said:
Those were not renders...
The game engine was initially much more impressive looking and they had it up and running like that. The problem was that the XBOX could not handle those visuals with tons of people running around and all of the gameplay systems active.
Look the basic idea of this game is that everybody starts out as the same male hetrosexual white boy. And then from there you can make that male hetrosexual white kid into a evil sword swinging male hetrosexual white adult, or a good spell slinging male hetrosexual white adult. Now if this was a traditional Western RPG then this would be a bad thing as those games are built on as much customisation in the main character as possible (Morrowind, Baldur's Gate, KOTOR), but Fable isn't a traditional western RPG, it's an amalgam of a bunch of different conventions. And they kept the Japanese style convention of a very strictly defined main character initially.