They are ports. In the case of Puyo Pop and Puzzle Pocket they are not 1:1 ports, since they added some crap to make it widescreen. But it's usually just a picture with no use for the game. Mojipittan is a port from either PS2 or GBA (it looks the same on both). Kollon is some arcade puzzle game. I confused Doke Demo Issyo with sth. else, that's the cat game. I don't know about that golf game, probably no straight port, just like dynasty warriors is technically no port either. Still that makes only 4 fresh titles for the PSP, all other are ports, rehashes or just handheldified versions. Does the DS have more? I don't know, but i think not.
So, where the hell did the DS come from?
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Who cares, really? That's like bragging to owners of Mercedes and Ferarri that a Geo is selling better than both
mumu said:
Ok, you've been proven wrong on Hot Shots. 6 New Courses, 10 new characters, and confirmation:
IGN said:
Source So you're wrong there. Moving on.
You're right about Puzzle Bobble Pocket (aka Bust-A-Move Pocket). I checked and confirmed that it's a port. You're also right about Puyo Pop Fever, although it does have tons of new features (so it's like Mario 64DS, a semi-port/remake).
On Mojibittan, IGN says it's not a port.
IGN said:
Source. So wrong there. It WAS an arcade game, but this is an all new Mojipittan title in the series. So it is also not a port.
IGN said:
I.e., it's not a port. It's just a new game in the series inspired by the arcade version. Source.
Doko Demo Issyo is also a new game in an established franchise.
So, once again, PSP still has less ports (especially comparing US launch to Japanese launch) than the DS has. In terms of franchise extensions, I'd say the DS and PSP is about equal
Deg said:
What is so funny? GBASP is last gen technology. This is what I mean. Hell the Super NES had some of its best days towards the end when the PSOne was coming out. Comparing the GBASP and PSP is moot. Sure, GBASP will sell more in 2005 but it doesn't matter. We are looking at the next generation of portable gaming. The NES installed base is huge, why don't developers just support the NES and forget about all these next gen consoles?
It's a card game...scares me, but a card game can't play like crap. It may be boring or stupid but bad gameplay is nigh impossible in a card game.
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mumu said:I heard Metal Gear Ac!d plays like crapI.
Link? Both Gamespot and IGN liked it.
You're an idiot. Every fanboy likes pointing to the PS1
I guess we should consider GBA:SP tech and PSP tech on equal footing then.
We'll see how things shake out by 2006/2007.
BTW I don't think PSP hardware technology is ahead of its time. PSP sounds great now, but in a year when Xbox Next is out -bringing on the next gen of consoles- PSP tech isn't going to look that great. In fact, the XBox Next release is going to help make the DS look that much worse.
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mumu said:Check out the screenshots
No link about MG:A?
Mrbob said:
I guess we should consider GBA:SP tech and PSP tech on equal footing then.
We'll see how things shake out by 2006/2007.
BTW I don't think PSP hardware technology is ahead of its time. PSP sounds great now, but in a year when Xbox Next is out -bringing on the next gen of consoles- PSP tech isn't going to look that great. In fact, the XBox Next release is going to help make the DS look that much worse.
Lets focus on sales rather than fanboy goggles
mumu said:Check out the screenshots
Looks to me like IGN is still right! I can't read Japanese at all, but it doesn't look far from the truth. Scrabble with lots of twists in Japanese.
And even if that's not true (and IGN disagrees, of course, and IGN also knows more than you), it's irrelevant to the discussion of whether it is a port or not, because it's not a port and that's all there is to it.
The only thing that doesn't make it a port is the blue thing they added at the right, to make it widescreen. If that's enough to not make it a port for you, be my guest There really is no point in arguing here, still i corrected 4 wrong entries in your list, so that's all there is to it. You people are really sensitive when it comes to the PSP!
Anyway let's get back on topic about the DS.
There really is no point in arguing here, still i corrected 4 wrong entries in your list, so that's all there is to it. You people are really sensitive when it comes to the PSP!Anyway let's get back on topic about the DS.
mumu said:The only thing that doesn't make it a port is the blue thing they added at the right, to make it widescreen. If that's enough to not make it a port for you, be my guest
No, uh, it's a new...game...in the Mojipittan(sp) series. IGN and other places agree. So, uh, I don't know why you'd even bother continuing to fight it, unless you have a vendetta. Which clearly you do!
I'm not sensititve at all about the PSP; I just don't like bullshit. And saying PSP has "more ports [than DS]" or "will have only ports" is ~currently~ bullshit.
So, you've only corrected two of them. Puyo Pop Fever and Puzzle Bobble Pocket. That's all. But it wasn't for lack of trying, that's for sure!
That's because you left out some Majhong games. Also i'm not the one trying to win a fight, it wasn't me who wasted his time browsing IGN and other places to prove me wrongAmir0x said:
I was just correcting some things, and i wasn't right on all of them, cause they are technically no ports or my memory tricked me. Technically none of the games for the DS are a port either, but i don't really care enough to argue about what makes a port and what doesn't.I'm more interested in new original titles, so far both haven't shown stellar performance in that area.
Doc Holliday
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For history to repeat itself Nintendo would have to release a GB with psp or better graphics a year later that uses carts
mumu said:That's because you left out 3 or 4 Majhong games. Also i'm not the one trying to win a fight, it wasn't me who wasted his time browsing IGN and other places to prove me wrong
I "waste time" browsing IGN because I like to have support for my statements. Proof > Baseless statements. But that's irrelevant. I left out the Majhong games for both platforms, btw. They both have them, and nobody cares about them anymore except some crazy dudes in Japan so why list them
And if you think that Ridge Racer DS, Asphalt GT and Rayman DS "technically aren't ports", you're just batshit insane and I wish you the best in all you do in life. Crazy Town has a lot of options!
Super Mario 64 DS is a remake (or semi-port). All kidding aside...mumu said:
...I completely agree.
Doc Holliday said:For history to repeat itself Nintendo would have to release a GB with psp or better graphics a year later that uses carts
No.
Doc Holliday
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So do you guys think Shiggy was the one to bring the idea of the touch screen or dual screens?
Chittagong said:
They decided to be a bit more pro-active than they were with the Gamecube. If every DS as guaranteed to have 802.11 hardware inside, maybe third parties like EA would be more inclined to create online games.
There's not much to it, Nintendo's been talking about the DS' ability to talk to WiFi hotspots in homes and in public places since pretty early on.
Bloody hell, so much wrong.
First, don't bundle "all those people with DS/GBA/SP" together. GBA/SP, sure, but then Nintendo is going after them itself, trying to persuade them to ditch it for a DS, so its a level playing field - in fact, it could be negative for Nintendo, trying to sell hardware to the same consumers less than 2 years after selling them the last one.
Being fucked by launching DS so soon? Nintendo have one holiday period, with 'relatively' expensive hardware, little software, and no momentum. Sure they'll sell a couple million units, but 2005 is the big battle, and Sony and Nintendo will have plenty of run up to next holidays.
By no means is it a shoe-in for Sony, but they have the potential to really hurt Nintendo. Nintendo could have gone big at any time, but from this thread it seems clear that they were happy to string people along with the minimum improvement in tech to sell a whole new line in hardware. Lets see what Nintendo are really capable of now.
I'm guessing that if DS was originally just a GBA ++, then it would have planned to use the existing Nintendo proprietary protocol. Then they slapped in wifi at the last minute. Must have surely been for online reasons, otherwise the Nintendo system would have been enough for local multiplayer.
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mumu said:
RE2 did have FMVs and Pre-rendered backgrounds.
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But the DS upgrade is an easier pill to swallow since it can play your GBA games. Once the big franchises start getting DS versions "most" GBA owners will want to upgrade.
You should see the number of SP's up for sale on IGN classified.
Most of my friends had both actually Also i don't think the N64 only had the filtering, take a game like Turok. PSX looked like a dog compared to it. People really forget the texture warping, shimmering and all the other shortcomings. Although developers did a great job a few years into its life hiding all those things or making them less annoying.
Also i don't think the N64 only had the filtering, take a game like Turok. PSX looked like a dog compared to it. People really forget the texture warping, shimmering and all the other shortcomings. Although developers did a great job a few years into its life hiding all those things or making them less annoying.The Abominable Snowman
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(Regarding topic) My theory: It was origionally planned for the successor to the GBA, but when the PSP was shown, Nintendo was convinced they needed more than just a more powerful Game Boy. They began cranking out ideas to fit the DS with and pushed the release date waaay up to compete with the PSP, and switched many games over. They hurriedly pushed it to developers as well. It was a responce to the PSP, and you can tell from it's weird timing.
Reguarding buzz: The DS has little buzz, even after release. The PSP is seen as the next "Big Thing" in gaming.
Regarding PSP launch in Japan: The killer PSP app WILL be Dokodemo Issyo. Mark my words. It sold millions of PocketStations. It has a huge fanbase in Japan. It'll be the game to push PSP sales for awhile. The fact that the PSP also has Dynasty Warriors, Metal Gear Ac!d and Ridge Racer makes me believe that initially the PSP will outstrip the DS in sales so as long as shipment permits. As soon as a shipment of PSP arrives in Japan, it'll be gone. Not sure how it'll all pan out though.
I believe that the PSP will dominate US sales too. There's just no buzz for it, and I don't think it's been selling rediculous amounts, even after Black Friday. I'm sure It's sold, but I'm not so sure anymore if it's even out it's initial shipment yet. The PSP is launching with 6 glossed up EA games, the new Need For Speed being one of them. Gran Turismo PSP may be closer to the US' launch as well. The PSP has an exciting US launch lineup, and we're still 4 months away.
Reguarding buzz: The DS has little buzz, even after release. The PSP is seen as the next "Big Thing" in gaming.
Regarding PSP launch in Japan: The killer PSP app WILL be Dokodemo Issyo. Mark my words. It sold millions of PocketStations. It has a huge fanbase in Japan. It'll be the game to push PSP sales for awhile. The fact that the PSP also has Dynasty Warriors, Metal Gear Ac!d and Ridge Racer makes me believe that initially the PSP will outstrip the DS in sales so as long as shipment permits. As soon as a shipment of PSP arrives in Japan, it'll be gone. Not sure how it'll all pan out though.
I believe that the PSP will dominate US sales too. There's just no buzz for it, and I don't think it's been selling rediculous amounts, even after Black Friday. I'm sure It's sold, but I'm not so sure anymore if it's even out it's initial shipment yet. The PSP is launching with 6 glossed up EA games, the new Need For Speed being one of them. Gran Turismo PSP may be closer to the US' launch as well. The PSP has an exciting US launch lineup, and we're still 4 months away.
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