Nameless said:*Disclaimer* I'm black so my use of the word "nigga" is approved by the United States government..
#1.Africans...
Not my fellow African-Americans, but straight up Africans. You know the motherfuckers that come to your university/college from Nigeria or Kenya with some shit story how they are here to go to med school. These guys are really idiots but they drop knowledge about "the motherland" and speak with an accent so chicks sop their shit up. And these guys look at us african american males like we're sucking our own shit through a gigantic straw. They dress like Zach fuckin Morris from "Saved by the Bell", with a pair of tight ass Jeans, a Collar shirt and a pair of dingy ass sneakers, and they always try to sound profound despite really not talking about shit.
pollo said:From my experience I've never seen any of these 'idiots' you speak of. Thats just blatantly racist.
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I completely approve of what Mike says. You've got another agenda going on sir of why you hate these people. And never do they ever fucking put down African-Americans that I see. Its always African Americans acting all jealous and shit about Africans. I can't for the life of me understand it. I don't understand why they get treated like shit, when never have africans done anything to warrant it.
enjoy bell woods said:Whiny Jews. Not normal Jews, but the neurotic, Woody Allen type.
And I also hate socks. But I basically only wear shoes these days.
ManDudeChild said:Hey. F*** you. Me father was a sock!
haha, reading that I think of south park where its got the one guy whining "But steeeereotyping jews is teeeeeeribulll!" :lolenjoy bell woods said:Whiny Jews. Not normal Jews, but the neurotic, Woody Allen type with the horrible persecution complex; the ones who can't help but compare every struggle he or she faces to something German Jews went through.
And I also hate socks. But I basically only wear shoes these days.
:lol I was in a bar last week in chicago with these two other guys and the three of us are pretty big dudes. Me and the one guy both obviously hit the weights and shit, but we're hardly 'skinny' by any means, ya know? So the guy we're talking to makes a crack (he's from new york) about how "There's so many god damn lumberjacks here in the midwest! What the fuck, guys?!" Just being friendly and ribbing us. Now I firmly believe that if you make it to the age of 18 and you're still thin-skinned about your weight, then you should either diet like a motherfucker or grow the fuck up. I laughed it off cuz I don't really care, I don't have anything to prove and the guy was just trying to be talkative to us. One of the guys I was with like almost flipped out. He was like "oh yeah? how bout we go in the alley and i'll show you who's fat, dickhead." not only did he make himself look like a pussy bitch, but he made the rest of us look like bitches too. man I hate that shit.The Experiment said:Fat people - Nothing wrong with fat people who admit they are fat and don't care. I'm talking about fatties who are sensitive about their weight but can't stop shoveling Twinkies in their mouths. Whats funny is that they have a million and one excuses not to exercise but they'll be damned if they miss TV shows in the evening. If they do take the initiative in losing weight, they won't find out how to do it the right way and will either starve themselves or go Atkins because they want to lose 10 lbs a week, if not more.
white ninja grade humorHomerSimpson-Man said:I don't know why, it's so stupid but that just had me dyin'!
:lol
whytemyke said:Any black guy talkin' with good english is a "fake nigga (thanks nas)"
Oh, and the worst group is the 'crazy bitch' group. Holy hell. These fucking women who are beautiful and anyone would fuck the shit out of them, they walk around and you wonder why they don't have a boyfriend. Then you realize that they're fucking NUTS (talk about their ex boyfriend from a YEAR ago until they cry) and you want to beat them with a stick. Holy shit, girls, you're hot and fairly smart, and you could be fucking any guy you want but you're trippin' over yourself sooo much that your personality cockblocks your looks. And for a woman to cockblock herself out of some schlong by account of her personality, you KNOW she's absolutely fucked up.
TOTALLY. The pothead cheerleaders especially. I don't mind at all that they enjoy smoking marijuana, but the ones that won't shut up about it need a kick in the face. We get it, you smoke grass; this does not make you special, now move on and talk about something interesting for once. Also, I think people who've gotten to the point where they can't enjoy normal activities without a session beforehand are pathetic.5- Potheads. People who always talk about smoking up. They love to mention how its not addictive but damn they can't wait for the next class break to smoke up some sweet grass.
whytemyke said:amen to that. i fucking hate wearing socks if I can avoid it. something about fresh air on my toes that makes me happy.
You're full of shit, man. This Ben guy that I've got a couple classes with grew up in fuckin' Darfur then was taken in as a refugee by some Kenyan camp... hooked up with some group that got him over here where he's going to school. One of the smartest motherfuckers I've ever met. No offense to the blacks on this board, but the percentage of smart Africans I've met compared to smart black americans is quite a bit higher, so maybe you wanna get off the Africans' shit, hm? I mean, as a white fat cat I can't sit and talk crap, but you're talkin shit about guys who get chopped up with machetes by the next tribe over, when most black people in America trip cuz UPN casts a negative stereotype on african-americans... which they do. But Africans are completely justified in bitch-slapping black Americans when they bitch about the WHITE man holdin' down... especially when these black guys are dumb enough to bitch to Africans about how bad they got it.
Here's a social group we haven't touched on that'll probably get me banned: Black guys who got a chip on their shoulder about EVERY-fuckin-THING. Anyone who's seen Crash can best compare this person to Ludacris' character. Nothing is ever good enough for these guys, and every problem they have is cuz of the slavery that was outlawed 140 years ago. Any black guy talkin' with good english is a "fake nigga (thanks nas)" and any white guy immitating black culture is a bitch trying to steal black peoples shit. The pinnacle of this shit is when you've got a guy like Kobe Bryant, smart, successful, good lookin' and loved by most people, being called fake by other black people and having to go and act like a hardass to try and get some street cred. There's a difference between taking pride in where you're from and hating everyone who's not where you are. Just like there's a difference between recognizing that a definite racial problem exists in the world today and trying to imagine racism where it doesn't exist. And all this shit is just perpetuated by these black guys who think the only way to keep it real is to stay in these poor ass neighborhoods, who insist that dealing drugs is a viable source of income despite how smart they are. You want to know the poster boy for this shit? Tupac Amaru Shakur. The guy is going to a great performing arts school (same fucking neighborhood as Jada Pinkett Smith-- good friends growing up) and wants to be a Shakespearian actor. What happens to him? He gets a whiff of this "keepin it real" bullshit after he moved across country and gets gunned down in the middle of a manufactured war. What a fucking waste. Everytime I see guys like this, who are just brilliantly smart but too caught up in their own bullshit to see the woods through the trees, I just want to violently shake them and tell them to quit worrying about what everyone else does and just, "do you!" fuck.
i'll see you when my ban gets killed in six months or so.
Himuro said:Yo nigga. There's nothing wrong with VARIETY man (the clothes comment). Most of my clothes are urban but I'll dress up once in awhile! However I agree on the other stuff.
I don't mind it when some guys go for women that are not black. Hell, I love all women of every color, but I can't stand Black guys I know who ONLY go for white women for some reason.. a few guys I know, ONLY go for white women. I HAVE NO IDEA WHY.
Oh, dude, I'm not denying (first off) that Africans tend to hate african americans. Well, maybe not 'hate' but they certainly have a sp0rsk-to-australians level of disdain for them. I was just really objecting to the idea of them being stupid. I guess if you mean 'stupid' as in a close-minded sense, I definitely can see that. But as far as wisdom goes, they're some smart mofo's. My mom roomed with a girl from Kenya back when she was in college, and she was telling me how the girl just HATED all my moms black friends, to the point that she'd leave the room if my moms friends came over.Nameless said:I never met your friend Ben so I honestly can't judge him. But while I tried to make my post somewhat humurous it was based on fact. Ask some of your African-American class mates or friends who've had experiences with actual Africans and I have no doubt you'll get some of the same sentiment about them. Many of these share similar feelings towards African AMericans in general, as the "Black Power" African Americans have towards the Suburban African American,. This girl I used to mess with was born in Nigeria, and her brothers admitted to me the feelings they have towards most African Americans. They hardly spoke to me for the first month I talked to the girl.
The Militant Nigga also annoys me, for many of the same reasons you listed above. For the record, I'm a product of the suburbs and will never be ashamed to admit it. I've lived in upper-middle class suburbia for virtually all my life. I'm equally annoyed by the black guy that blames everything on "the man" and feels we are still being opressed as I am by the black guy whos naive enough to think that blacks are NOT discriminated against at all. Me and a friend argued for 6 HOURS after listening to Dead Prez's 1st CD..If you heard it you'll know why.
Its funny you bring up Kobe because I relate ALOT to the guy, which is why hes probably my second favorite NBA player of all-time. Me and my friends are pretty much exactly the same. Alot of hood/thug blacks think we act like we're better than everyone , but then the blacks that go out of their way to be upity look down on us. Now thats ironic. Its a weird position to be in. I mean I have friends that range from Ivy leauge white girls to black guys in prison for multiple years....go figure.
White boys who think freedom of speech means they can say shit without taking responsibility for it.
:lol niceIhateyouchris said:People with self esteem.
You suck, get over it.
PhoenixDark said:-Ntards
I love Nintendo, but there are some pretty stupid Ntards out there. These people are usually so stupid and backwards you can't help but wonder if they were spawned from incest relationships. Do you expect me to sit here and listen to you tell me how Star Fox Assault is better and more innovative than Ratchet and Clank UYA? Get the hell out my face before I smack you with my SNES pad sized penis, but even that probably wouldn't work because they'd be trying to fondle it. What retards. These are the kind of people who would patiently watch Shigero Miyamoto take a dump and then proclaim him to be the greatest cooker of brownies in the entire food industry. "What innovative swirls, and oh look at the nuts he chose to sprinke inside!" Idiots.
Uh, no. I like some indie and unpopular "mainstream" bands because they make good music.PhoenixDark said:Gotta agree about Indie music elitists. God they piss me off, espeically when you consider so many of these "Indie" bands have the exact same lack of talent as these MTV approved bands. Only difference is they aren't popular, which in turn makes the elitists like them - until the band gets popular that is.
whytemyke said:amen to that. i fucking hate wearing socks if I can avoid it. something about fresh air on my toes that makes me happy.
You're full of shit, man. This Ben guy that I've got a couple classes with grew up in fuckin' Darfur then was taken in as a refugee by some Kenyan camp... hooked up with some group that got him over here where he's going to school. One of the smartest motherfuckers I've ever met. No offense to the blacks on this board, but the percentage of smart Africans I've met compared to smart black americans is quite a bit higher, so maybe you wanna get off the Africans' shit, hm? I mean, as a white fat cat I can't sit and talk crap, but you're talkin shit about guys who get chopped up with machetes by the next tribe over, when most black people in America trip cuz UPN casts a negative stereotype on african-americans... which they do. But Africans are completely justified in bitch-slapping black Americans when they bitch about the WHITE man holdin' down... especially when these black guys are dumb enough to bitch to Africans about how bad they got it.
Here's a social group we haven't touched on that'll probably get me banned: Black guys who got a chip on their shoulder about EVERY-fuckin-THING. Anyone who's seen Crash can best compare this person to Ludacris' character. Nothing is ever good enough for these guys, and every problem they have is cuz of the slavery that was outlawed 140 years ago. Any black guy talkin' with good english is a "fake nigga (thanks nas)" and any white guy immitating black culture is a bitch trying to steal black peoples shit. The pinnacle of this shit is when you've got a guy like Kobe Bryant, smart, successful, good lookin' and loved by most people, being called fake by other black people and having to go and act like a hardass to try and get some street cred. There's a difference between taking pride in where you're from and hating everyone who's not where you are. Just like there's a difference between recognizing that a definite racial problem exists in the world today and trying to imagine racism where it doesn't exist. And all this shit is just perpetuated by these black guys who think the only way to keep it real is to stay in these poor ass neighborhoods, who insist that dealing drugs is a viable source of income despite how smart they are. You want to know the poster boy for this shit? Tupac Amaru Shakur. The guy is going to a great performing arts school (same fucking neighborhood as Jada Pinkett Smith-- good friends growing up) and wants to be a Shakespearian actor. What happens to him? He gets a whiff of this "keepin it real" bullshit after he moved across country and gets gunned down in the middle of a manufactured war. What a fucking waste. Everytime I see guys like this, who are just brilliantly smart but too caught up in their own bullshit to see the woods through the trees, I just want to violently shake them and tell them to quit worrying about what everyone else does and just, "do you!" fuck.
i'll see you when my ban gets killed in six months or so.
karasu said:Nas is not real. He spend shalf his time rapping about the same bullshit everyone else is, and the other half pretending that he's Nastradamus, Nascosby, or Naspoleon. Linkin fuckin Park writes more meaningful lyrics.
There's no point. People really believe that sort of thing.Diablos said:Uh, no. I like some indie and unpopular "mainstream" bands because they make good music.
It really is completely different though, because you don't have fucking Italians and micks over here bitching to the ones back in Europe about how bad they got it because a cop is obviously racist for pulling them over for going 5 over. This isn't about some 3rd generation african immigrant bitching to some guy who's been over here for 200 years cuz his family was cheap labor-- so it's nothing like white americans bickering to each other. Get real.Karasu said:People who think the bickering between Africans and African Americans is any stranger than bickering between Italians and the Irish, any branch of white folk and jews, or the french and americans. White people with different cultural background can trash talk one another, but its strange when black people of different cultural backgrounds do the same? Get real.
No offense man, but there's a chance here that the problem exists today because white people haven't been trying to school you black folk in your own problems. Christ, you've got white people sitting here trying to get the problems of the black community out in the open so everyone can help and talk about it, instead of trying to brush it under the rug, and you're trying to jump our shit for doing so. Tell me how exactly that same attitude is ingrained in white people anywhere in the US, because I don't see a lot of hillbilly boys bitching and disowning their brother for going and making it while they stayed at home. You don't see these white executives cut down by their counterparts for being sellouts for leaving the streets and making something of themselves and coming back with money. So maybe, just maybe, that people like you are so quick to turn your back on the opinions of white people because you're too caught up in your own bullshit self-justification is a cause of these problems rather than a solution.karasu said:White guys who want to school me about black people and our suppossed problems. Shut the fuck up okay. Whatever the bullshit is that you're going to mention is not unique to black people. It's just easier for you to point out because you see the difference in our skin tone. Hip Hop is not the only form of music that goes on and on about absolute garbage that influences the weaker minded people out there to waste half of their lives mimicing it. There's also shit called punk, goth, emo, death metal, and college.
whytemyke said:It really is completely different though, because you don't have fucking Italians and micks over here bitching to the ones back in Europe about how bad they got it because a cop is obviously racist for pulling them over for going 5 over. This isn't about some 3rd generation african immigrant bitching to some guy who's been over here for 200 years cuz his family was cheap labor-- so it's nothing like white americans bickering to each other. Get real.
No offense man, but there's a chance here that the problem exists today because white people haven't been trying to school you black folk in your own problems. Christ, you've got white people sitting here trying to get the problems of the black community out in the open so everyone can help and talk about it, instead of trying to brush it under the rug, and you're trying to jump our shit for doing so. Tell me how exactly that same attitude is ingrained in white people anywhere in the US, because I don't see a lot of hillbilly boys bitching and disowning their brother for going and making it while they stayed at home. You don't see these white executives cut down by their counterparts for being sellouts for leaving the streets and making something of themselves and coming back with money. So maybe, just maybe, that people like you are so quick to turn your back on the opinions of white people because you're too caught up in your own bullshit self-justification is a cause of these problems rather than a solution.
1. Lets make a few things straight here. I never once said that the problems between africans and black americans are tied to hip hop. If you read it that way, its your own problem. Deal with it. Nobody is denying that there's hate on both sides, either. Wherever you got that idea, you better backtrack and get that chip off your shoulder, man. Its obvious that Africans have a problem with black americans and vice versa. And my comparison is spot on because you're trying to say that italian americans and irish americans bitching to each other about their heritage is the same as an african and a black guy. They're totally different, because the mick and the wop still have a shared citizenship now, while the Africans and black americans don't.karasu said:WTF are you talking about? That doesn't even make any sense. See this is what I mean. YOu think the problems between African and Americans are started by the African Americans? Are you insane? It's started by both sides. My Uncle is African, his mom hates that he married an African American girl, or the descendant of a slave. Because of our ancestry alot of Africans believe they are better than us. It has fuck all to do with Hip Hop or any modern youth culture you want to bring up. It goes back LONG LONG before any of this even existed.
What?Where did I say anything about self justification? White people are trying to get the problems of black people out in the open? Didn't black people already do that?! The problem exist because we haven't been schooled by the oh so mighty white people? Jesus christ.
So wait, picking on kids because they're doing their schoolwork is unique to the black communtiy? White communities don't have bullies that picks on you for being "nerdy"? get real. It's not a black problem and it's not some widespread issue. It's not as if 80 percent of black people will hate you if you read a book. Jesus .Tell me what black person you know that has disowned his brother for becoming a success? Who? Where did you pull that from? What afterschool special were you watching? Do SOME people hate on those who are more successful than they are? Yes, worldwide. Are some people unfailry criticized in poor communities for speaking really proper english? yes they are. Because they're different. It's nothing unique to the black community. Do some people consider it being white? yes, they do, and it's unfair. No more than white people chastise their fellow white kids for embracing certain elements of "Black speech" and culture. You call them whiggers don't you? You chastise them, don't you? yes, you do. Fuck, on this forum the same thing is done to "japanophiles". They aren't 'white enough'. :lol
I don't turn my back on the opinions of white people dude. But like, i'm black okay. I'm from the projects, but at around 14 I moved to the suburbs. Now tell me how I'm suppossed to be comfortable about some suburban kid coming up to me and preaching to me about the evils of black culture when for one, what does he know being black? Did he learn it from life or music videos? Is he blind to the same "evils" in his own community? Rap music promotes murder? Does rock music promote both suicide and murder? Two, why does the white guy think I need him to tell me about my culture? is it because he's so much brighter than I am? Does he honestly believe hes telling me something I haven't heard before? Would he be comfortable with me coming into his house and lecturing him about his family, or his finances, or his interest in general? Like I said,we all have the same problems. It's just easier for you to say it's a black thing because you see the difference in our skin color. But it's not a black thing. Most of the problems found in the black community are universal, the others are partially unique to our position(having next to no culture for a long ass time, and displacement in general). Can white people recognize some of it? Absolutely. Should they try to teach ME about the problems of my culture as in' the problem with you black people is". FUCK no. Not until they acknowledge the problems in their own. A wiseman once said that you should clean the speck out of your own eye before going and lecturing your brother about his. You don't know as much as you think you do whytemike. Especially about African/African american relations. That was made clear when you brought up African Americans and hypersensitivity to racism. That has fuck all to do with it. It's about ancestry. Not any blasted hip hop, or thug life, or apparent laziness, or success, etc etc etc. Jesus christ, the world eats that shit up. It's the height of pretension to believe that I need you to school me about my community. Especially when you point to nothing more than stereotypes and all of this battered white man syndrome bullshit.
P.S.- Kobe WAS fake. A fake goodie two shoes that is.
whytemyke said:1. Lets make a few things straight here. I never once said that the problems between africans and black americans are tied to hip hop. If you read it that way, its your own problem. Deal with it. Nobody is denying that there's hate on both sides, either. Wherever you got that idea, you better backtrack and get that chip off your shoulder, man. Its obvious that Africans have a problem with black americans and vice versa. And my comparison is spot on because you're trying to say that italian americans and irish americans bitching to each other about their heritage is the same as an african and a black guy. They're totally different, because the mick and the wop still have a shared citizenship now, while the Africans and black americans don't.
2. There's no point in even arguing the rest of this. You've got such a chip on your shoulder already that you're just totally amplifying my points that I made earlier in this thread. You're sitting here talking about how other black people don't know anything about being 'black' simply because of where they live. You yourself are already criticizing others for not being black enough, so what the fuck do you know about your problems?
The problems in the black community are not universal. Have you ever been to Europe and experienced the 'black community' overseas? I somehow doubt it, cuz if you had then you wouldn't be sounding so ignorant today.
I've seen more black friends of mine cut down for being fake than anyone else. I've also seen the way black people in other countries get on, and while there's definitely a different culture, there's nowhere near as much culture clash or hostility towards other cultures as you're so obviously portraying here.
This is the problem with people like you-- you think that the only people who are fit to offer help are people who are flawless themselves, but even when those people do offer help or try to identify with you (just as you said) it's not good enough cuz they don't know anything about who you are anyways.
Fuck it, there's no point in arguing with you cuz you're one of those people that can't see the woods through the trees. The fact of the matter is that most of the black people that I've talked to about this agree with me, and the only person who hasn't agreed with me on this shit is you-- a person who readily admits that suburban black kids don't know shit about being black cuz they don't have the same background you do. Have fun keepin' it real, man.
pixelfish said:I have to say something in defense of real black Africans. There is an understandable dislike there for African Americans because here in the US you have so many African Americans who go on about the struggle and how hard they have it when real Africans have had it far worse than they could ever imagine. Here in the US even people from the poorest communities have oppertunities if they want it. In Africa life is pretty damn bleak.
Something else that pisses off real Africans is how African Americans who are many generations removed from Africa go on about the motherland like they have a claim to it or it's in their soul and some other shit. I've had African Americans try and lecture me about Africa even though I'm white and far more African than they are.