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some guy leaked FFXV's story six months ago | up: newer 4chan stuff as of Dec 9th
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DiipuSurotu
Banned
Man that's so Nomura. Reminds me Neo Exdeath, God Kefka, Safer Sephiroth, etc.
I wonder how Kagari feels about Stella now.
Absolutely agree. Funnily, one of the things I wished for several times in FFXV threads was that I hope that you don't magically kill god again for the millionth time in the series with the same old transformations throughout several phases. I mean, we (or rather the other gods) did kill a god in the end, but it wasn't the final boss.
The Emperor
Member
I liked that ardyns final form was grounded.
Hate the usual over the top transformations
Hate the usual over the top transformations
Ganon Dragmire
Member
I see.
I don't know, the more I read about how the original Versus would've panned out (considering this leak is indeed true and not just an elaborate hoax). the more I'm convinced that the things I actually did like about FF XV were Tabata's ideas rather than Nomura's, which makes sense considering my stance on the KH franchise. Like others have already said it sounds much more like a FNC story than what we got, and to me that's not a positive quality. If I had to choose between a fully fledged, complete version of what we currently have vs what is supposedly VXIII's original concept, I'd choose the former.
i disagree i think the remake will do fine with critics ad i believe kingdom hearts 3 will do better then kingdom hearts 2
DiipuSurotu
Banned
He could at least have had damaged clothes or something, instead of the cheap "let's just increase some color glider in 3D Studio Max" red filter thing.
ethomaz
Banned
But this is a game and you need to battle powerful challenges bosses at the end... it is the same thing why people got upset about the final boss in Uncharted.
Regis could've really used a scene similar to the Dawn trailer where he's shown agonizing over Noct's future. I mean yeah it wouldn't make sense to the player at first, but by the end of the game it would've all come full circle.
Shame about Cindy and Iris if true. Would've been great to see them in the World of Ruin, along with Aranea and Cor.
Shame about Cindy and Iris if true. Would've been great to see them in the World of Ruin, along with Aranea and Cor.
Well even the leaker said if they had 9 more months they would have saved the cut content/concepts.
Then I guess almost none of the Final Fantasy games apply.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
This :
comes out tomorrow. Anyone getting it?
We must know more. haha
comes out tomorrow. Anyone getting it?
We must know more. haha
Depends on how much information it contains.
Mine coming in Jan 2.This :
comes out tomorrow. Anyone getting it?
We must know more. haha
The Emperor
Member
The leaker specifically said it would be the best game ever if they had 9 more months!
Get it right bro
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Ultimately the story we got with XV would've still been amazing had it been told well. They actually condensed it really well.
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Always thought it was weird they used a completely different design of her for this Twitter artwork, especially considering it basically is what people wished she looked like instead.
ethomaz
Banned
Old FFs has good and challenging bosses... I even died a lot of time and needed to review my strategy to beat most of them.
Now in XV you just hold circle and recover with items.
If you absolutely suck at JRPG's, sure.
Do you really, honestly believe that guys like Kefka or Sephiroth were "good and challenging bosses"?
ethomaz
Banned
Yes... it was.
Take time to beat them first time and even have to level up to reach some more complex strategies.
I loved how I needed to create different battle options to kill them... Kefka was hard as fuck for me... the whole last dungeon with separated teams was extreme hard.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Zeromus and Neo Exdeath were pretty hard IMO.
Ultimecia was rather challenging too.
Ultimecia was rather challenging too.
nomura not going to allow anybody but him or tai touch kh3 kh is his babyI hope KH3 doesn't meet the same fate as FFXV
Edit: I meant the story being butchered.
ethomaz
Banned
Neo Exdeath is possible the hardest boss in a FF... painful.
I'm sure SE higher ups have more power than Nomura can possibly imagine on the games development.
I thought those were two of the easiest final bosses I've ever fought in any JRPG.
I'll give you Exdeath. Maybe. Ultimecia can be cheesed with Renzokuken and Aura. Vayne is also not particularly difficult.
And Yu Yevon. Well...
UtterlyPerplexed
Member
Not sure if I like the idea of Stella as Bruce Willis in The Sixth Sense. It would at least be something notable about this particular heroine compared to others in the franchise, but whether it succeeds or falls completely flat on its face would have been down to how the character would have been handled. And I'm not exactly optimistic that Stella would have been much better than the Lunafreya we have got.
The more substantial plans for Chapter 14 hurt me. More than anything else, the laughably hollowed out World of Ruin we did get hurts me more than anything else about this game in terms of personal disappointments. The whole way through Insomnia I was just thinking about how much more effective it would have been to allow the player to slowly regain their bearings in this drastically altered environment, meet up with surviving characters again, learn all about what they have experienced in the last ten years and generally let everything marinate as it should. To hurriedly ferry the player off to Insomnia virtually straight away is such a waste. The reunion with the other bros doesn't even feel genuine. It's a whole decade, mate. You would express more emotion when seeing a close friend again after so long than what is essentially a casual 'sup'.
Yeah, I would have killed to see what they could have done if this was a mid-2017 game at the very earliest instead, and if the bean counters and execs weren't heavily breathing down their necks. Oh well. Here's hoping this lot and the whole company take from real lessons from this going forward, because FFXV in many ways still feels like a holdover from the chaotic, disorganised Square Enix of the last decade ever since HD development began. This has to be the cutting point - the demarcation line - where internal management has to be far smarter from hereon to avoid repeating all of this.
The more substantial plans for Chapter 14 hurt me. More than anything else, the laughably hollowed out World of Ruin we did get hurts me more than anything else about this game in terms of personal disappointments. The whole way through Insomnia I was just thinking about how much more effective it would have been to allow the player to slowly regain their bearings in this drastically altered environment, meet up with surviving characters again, learn all about what they have experienced in the last ten years and generally let everything marinate as it should. To hurriedly ferry the player off to Insomnia virtually straight away is such a waste. The reunion with the other bros doesn't even feel genuine. It's a whole decade, mate. You would express more emotion when seeing a close friend again after so long than what is essentially a casual 'sup'.
Yeah, I would have killed to see what they could have done if this was a mid-2017 game at the very earliest instead, and if the bean counters and execs weren't heavily breathing down their necks. Oh well. Here's hoping this lot and the whole company take from real lessons from this going forward, because FFXV in many ways still feels like a holdover from the chaotic, disorganised Square Enix of the last decade ever since HD development began. This has to be the cutting point - the demarcation line - where internal management has to be far smarter from hereon to avoid repeating all of this.
ethomaz
Banned
Of course if you are overleveled spanning KotR in FFVII it was pure easy... FFVIII has a flawed battle system that you became invencible from beginning already.
I don't know you play your JRPGs but I just follow the story in the first playthough and that makes the games and mainly the bosses really challenging.
Dozen of bosses I killed in close to death state in FFs.
I never once mentioned KotR. Sephiroth is a piece of cake even without them. Final Fantasy in general are some of the easiest japanese RPG's around.
I also mostly follow the main story and most of the time I don't bother to grind. I still have little to no issues with most final bosses.
The cheapest one I think was the one in XIII, but only because it would try casting Death on Lightning, and if you didn't have a set of those accessories that prevent Death, you were pretty much fucked. Now THAT was a cheap, terrible battle....
FlashbladeGAF
Member
I'm the same way.
Story before side quests.
Short RPGs are rare, so spending all my time getting 5 drops to please NPCs when the game could possibly have a Xenogears sized story seemed like something that could wait til after I saved the world.
That being said. I don't usually have an issue, but there are challenges along the way.
Once in awhile an Ultemecia, Seymour or big bad will pop up to tell me I should have fought just a tad more before coming here.
Yu Yevon is not a final boss, come on. Jecht is the final boss and he's pretty tough if you didn't get Anima or haven't done any of the optional content.
I'd say him, Exdeath and Zeromus were the only final bosses in FF I found somewhat challenging. Chaos wasn't challenging himself but the dungeon leading up to him was, so there's that. Maybe II and III have good contenders, I wouldn't know. Still, Ardyn is easy even by FF's standards. I'm fine with that since I liked the more personal approach but I can see why people would be disappointed.
I'd say him, Exdeath and Zeromus were the only final bosses in FF I found somewhat challenging. Chaos wasn't challenging himself but the dungeon leading up to him was, so there's that. Maybe II and III have good contenders, I wouldn't know. Still, Ardyn is easy even by FF's standards. I'm fine with that since I liked the more personal approach but I can see why people would be disappointed.
Astral Dog
Member
So sad the final boss was robbed :'(
ethomaz
Banned
Well Ardyn could be personal like it was... it was not the issue... I think it could be more powerful like a real challenge to Noctis... after all both have the same powers.
I don't know they were supposed to be even in power in my mind... not Noctis crushing him like a God.
I would say only Neo Exdeath and only because of Grand Cross.
Most final bosses are easy imo.
yeah but i think the higherups tturst him on this project then other other projects
Astral Dog
Member
Just play it when the season pass gets a sale like the resent Christmas flash PSN one, by the time they get out a "complete" edition you will be playing other games.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Who's hugging Ifrit in that Mural? Is that a human Leviathan?
The Emperor
Member
Would make sense considering they both hate humans.
Always found it odd Leviathan and Ifrit never had any kind of allegiance in the game's lore
They are Leviathan and Bahamut. All the summons are grouped in the clouds, Ifrit is not there because of his downfall, which is represented by the various demons that look like him in the bottom of the picture.
Facism
Gold Member
isn't it Bahamut? He's wearing armour and has wings.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Isn't Leviathan at the bottom right corner?
So Versus would have featured...
... children murdering other children because of voices in their heads
... yakuza offering familiars as sacrifices in order to gain powers
... blood spilling enemies
... murdered girls coming back from the death as beautifully designed female characters
... people hurting themselves in order to view ghosts
... an entire nation worshipping the idea of death
... dog puppies that would transform into merciless ninjas
Just let that sink in.
... children murdering other children because of voices in their heads
... yakuza offering familiars as sacrifices in order to gain powers
... blood spilling enemies
... murdered girls coming back from the death as beautifully designed female characters
... people hurting themselves in order to view ghosts
... an entire nation worshipping the idea of death
... dog puppies that would transform into merciless ninjas
Just let that sink in.