That does work in the classics if you can find the handful of points where it's possible. Does point to some lingering DIMPS influence on the design, but frankly anyone expecting this to play exactly like Yasuhara built it is even more deluded than the "lol still stuck in the Sonic Cycle" posters.RagnarokX said:
Looks like Classic Sonic borrowed Modern Sonic's sticky shoes. Not a good sign for the physics/level design. :\
Sonic Generations Announced [PS3 / XBOX 360 / PC / 3DS] - No Wii Version Official
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A Human Becoming
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This is what Super Mario All-Stars for Wii should have been.
Direct link to the video!Suzuki Yu said:
It's a glitch though. The level designers even went out of their way to try and keep it from happening by putting bumpers and stuff to stop it. Only place I remember getting it to happen reliably was one part of Carnival Night Zone and it caused Sonic to get lodged in a wall (not talking about running on ceilings, talking about going around the outside of a curve). The point, as you said, is that it looks like Dimps level design/physics and associates with Sonic 4.Sciz said:
jump_button
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gameplay of old sonic just want i want new sonic game play just looks like a mess no skills need keeping forwards boosting every 5 secs not thinking
MidnightScott
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Fap fap fap fap
Looks like Sonic Colors which is great. Day 1 baby!
Looks like Sonic Colors which is great. Day 1 baby!
SolidSnakex
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Ifrit said:
The press release only mentions that you have to use classic and modern Sonic to save his friends.
fredrancour
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oh god. Now I know what it feels like to be inside the sonic cycle. They've managed to penetrate my jaded shell but I'm already bracing for disappointment.
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
The way he's describing the "interactive menu," it almost sounds like Sonic Jam.Suzuki Yu said:
You can find let's plays of Sonic 3 on youtube where new players get stuck at it. It's one of the worst pieces of level design ever.Articalys said:
Why hello there. I can't wait to see you in action. Preferably with this theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzXwutv0yy8
Ifrit said:
From this interview:
"Hoy hemos anunciado que tendriamos a estos dos personajes jugables en Sonic Generations, pero también aparecerán muchos personajes del universo Sonic. Hablo de amigos de sonic: Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, etc. que formarán parte de la historia o serán un elemento importante del juego"
My translation:
"Today we have announced that we' have these 2 playable characters in Sonic Generations, but also, many characters from the Sonic universe will make an appearance. I'm speaking of Sonic's [shitty] friends: Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, etc. who will take part in the story or will be an important element of the game"
Relaxed Muscle
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Suzuki Yu said:
Some tidbits from the interview in the video, nothing important but I thought people might want to know:
- They're trying to compress the 20 years of Sonic history in one game.
- Some fans enjoy 2D Sonic games others 3D Sonic games, the game tries to cater both of them.(Also he keeps saying Sonic 4 was for the 2D Sonic fans, though you would like this lol)
- In the design of the game they tried to cover all the 20 years of Sonic, so the balance won't favour either 2D classic elements or 3D elements.It's not about have new or old things, it's about cover it all. (I suposse he's referring to the visual elements and art).
- Sonic friends to be an "important" part of the game.
- No co-op or MP modes.
I think it would've gone over better, personally. Whenever the Rush games introduce a gimmick with nonstandard controls, there's always some onscreen prompt to give the player a clue.Articalys said:
If we're lucky. Sonic Advance 3 if we aren't.Catalix said:
You can get through GHZ and EHZ just fine by holding right and jumping occasionally. Doesn't mean the game doesn't dramatically ramp up the complexity later on.jump_button said:
Here's a youtube video of someone stuck on the barrel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkcTW8h7uxo
Some language.
Some language.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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Jesus holy fuck! This can't be real life. I refuse to believe this is anything other than an overly elaborate fan game that Sega will eventually shut down.
Sega couldn't have had a hand in this.
I mean... Sega!?
This has now shot up to be my most anticipated game. I still love you Sonic! If they can do 2D like this, why the hell didn't we get it sooner? And man they were trolling with Sonic 4. I can't believe THAT was called Sonic 4. What's gonna happen to Episode 2??
I need a super duper limited edition of this with art, comics, anniversary soundtrack, everything!
I never played a 3D Sonic after Adventure 2 (too painful) outside of the Unleashed demo which I thought was cool so actually looking forward to experiencing the 3D portions too :O
p.s: I'm surprised so many people are giving Colors a pass. I saw those aliens and immediately passed. Aliens who give you super powers? What kind of shitty friend shit was this? Aliens = shitty friends.
Sega couldn't have had a hand in this.
I mean... Sega!?
This has now shot up to be my most anticipated game. I still love you Sonic! If they can do 2D like this, why the hell didn't we get it sooner? And man they were trolling with Sonic 4. I can't believe THAT was called Sonic 4. What's gonna happen to Episode 2??
I need a super duper limited edition of this with art, comics, anniversary soundtrack, everything!
I never played a 3D Sonic after Adventure 2 (too painful) outside of the Unleashed demo which I thought was cool so actually looking forward to experiencing the 3D portions too :O
p.s: I'm surprised so many people are giving Colors a pass. I saw those aliens and immediately passed. Aliens who give you super powers? What kind of shitty friend shit was this? Aliens = shitty friends.
Dark Schala
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It... actually looks pretty good. The screens give off a sense of fun and the video looks great. I think I said in another thread that I was looking forward to something like Sonic Fan Remix. So... did I kind of call it without calling it?
But I can't help but to continue to feel cautiously optimistic. If SEGA can replicate the GOOD FEELINGS that Sonic Colours gave me in this game, then all will be well. But the video... Man, that video looks good. I hope they don't emphasize the narrative too much. I liked that Colours didn't emphasize the narrative and kept the cutscenes to a minimum.
All I know is that I'm looking forward to the soundtrack. Hopefully it will be as good as Unleashed's and Colours'.
Hopefully his friends get caught in a time loop and never come back. >.>
All I know is that I'm looking forward to the soundtrack. Hopefully it will be as good as Unleashed's and Colours'.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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OMG!!! THE MUSIC!! Green Hill Zone is back, bitches!!
Professor Beef
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So you didn't play it?Jo Shishido's Cheeks said:
Azure Dream
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Sciz said:That does work in the classics if you can find the handful of points where it's possible.RagnarokX said:
Looks like Classic Sonic borrowed Modern Sonic's sticky shoes. Not a good sign for the physics/level design. :\
Oh no! The Time Holes have retroactively changed Sonic 1!
(I know, I know, it "doesn't count" for some reason, because it's a gimmick or however you want to classify it.)
Graphics Horse
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Looks good, Sega finally listened to the fans and gave them the game they almost had to make for themselves.
But wait... what's this?
But wait... what's this?
Right, it's a specific prop. Just like the wheel thingies in Carnival Night Zone. Modern Sega has a tendency to design every level around it.Kulock said:
Oh no! The Time Holes have retroactively changed Sonic 1!
(I know, I know, it "doesn't count" for some reason, because it's a gimmick or however you want to classify it.)
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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If I can play this game as classic sonic entirely then Day fucking One!! My got, I just got a nostalgic goosebump from seeing that.
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Hmm, I could definitely see something like that happening. And then pushing UP will switch out the current Sonic, making him run into the background cave, then the other one comes running out.Peff said:
That's the level select screen (it has the red rings from Colours and there's a Modern Sonic version). I assume by playable he means pressing right to move Sonic to the following Zone.
Azure Dream
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RagnarokX said:
So even though it has "broken" physics, it doesn't count because it's a separate object.
RagnarokX said:
Ghost-edited-in line makes little sense. "It" being what, exactly?
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I came to the conclusion that it isn't about Sonic's look, but rather that the gameplay became shitty (and thus became shittier when playing as Sonic friends). Colours and Unleashed('s Day Levels) proved this to me: if levels are well-constructed and the gameplay isn't irritating, then it's on the path to being a good game.
My only fear is that we must play as some of these shitty friends in a "surprise" twist of fate and that the gameplay will be bad. I hope not. Playing as Knuckles in both Sonic 2 and Sonic 3+K was fantastic.
Another fear of mine is that they'll emphasize the narrative in terms of multiple cutscenes. I liked that in Colours it wasn't, and we didn't get a lot of cutscenes (hell, the game didn't even start with a cutscene), so if we get a repeat of that, that'd be great. But including Sonic's many friends is a tad worrying. Hopefully, the "friends" will be limited to Tails and Knuckles.
I hope they bring back multiple path level-design like they did in Colours, though. Kinda sucks that they aren't bringing in co-op play or something like that.
My only fear is that we must play as some of these shitty friends in a "surprise" twist of fate and that the gameplay will be bad. I hope not. Playing as Knuckles in both Sonic 2 and Sonic 3+K was fantastic.
Another fear of mine is that they'll emphasize the narrative in terms of multiple cutscenes. I liked that in Colours it wasn't, and we didn't get a lot of cutscenes (hell, the game didn't even start with a cutscene), so if we get a repeat of that, that'd be great. But including Sonic's many friends is a tad worrying. Hopefully, the "friends" will be limited to Tails and Knuckles.
I hope they bring back multiple path level-design like they did in Colours, though. Kinda sucks that they aren't bringing in co-op play or something like that.
This, too. I'm glad SEGA's putting forth the effort for an anniversary game.A Human Becoming said:
Kulock said:
The object is sticky, not Sonic.
It being Sonic sticking to the ground to create these sharp up and down hills to be "extreme." I think the only zone that didn't really have that kind of level design in Sonic 4 was Lost Labyrinth. I know the other 3 had that kind of design. That's more of a minor nitpick but it does detract from the uniqueness of each level. The more important issue is the implication it has on the physics that might be in this game.
Akibastman
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People will like Shitty Sonic's levels better because they will be like Sonic Colors and the good parts from Sonic Unleashed, whereas Classic Sonic's levels won't be as they wanted.